Force feedback steering wheels.

I'd like to hear about peoples' experiences with force feedback steering wheels. I've been playing F1GP and F1GP2 for years with a CH FSPro joystick and have just bought F1RS so I'm thinking of getting a wheel. I'd also be interested in knowing which of the conventional wheels is the best to go for (must be less than 175). Thanks Ian

I have the Ultimate Per4mer FF, and I think at the moment it is the only one! Have no doubts about it, it is superb, especially with the new iForce2 patches for F1RS and POD. Cart PR is also superb with the wheel - just feel those rumble strips at Miami! It costs 150, but it's worth every penny. >I'd like to hear about peoples' experiences with force feedback steering >wheels. I've been playing F1GP and F1GP2 for years with a CH FSPro joystick >and have just bought F1RS so I'm thinking of getting a wheel. I'd also be >interested in knowing which of the conventional wheels is the best to go for >(must be less than 175). >Thanks >Ian

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>I'd like to hear about peoples' experiences with force feedback steering >wheels. I've been playing F1GP and F1GP2 for years with a CH FSPro joystick >and have just bought F1RS so I'm thinking of getting a wheel. I'd also be >interested in knowing which of the conventional wheels is the best to go for >(must be less than 175). >Thanks >Ian

Scally, I have used a wheel since day one, I went through all the Thrustmaster series each one lasted about 3 to 8 weeks then it was a hassel fixing broken springs and replacing bunji cords, if you buy a Thurstmaster you will kick yourself after. I found a wheel that is so much better it is built by hand like a tank and so smooth that you think that you are the best driver in the world, It's the TSW2 Wheel and pedals for about 200.00 + or - a few dollars (US) You can see their line of wheels at http://soli.inav.net/~thomas/ Please take a look and let me know what you think, I think that you will fall in love with this

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> Scally, > I have used a wheel since day one, I went through all the Thrustmaster > series each one lasted about 3 to 8 weeks then it was a hassel fixing > broken springs and replacing bunji cords, if you buy a Thurstmaster > you will kick yourself after. I found a wheel that is so much better > it is built by hand like a tank and so smooth that you think that you > are the best driver in the world, It's the TSW2 Wheel and pedals for

You're a very unlucky guy... ;^) Although TM wheels are not made for eternity, my GP1 works perfectly for almost 2 years (wheel pot replaced once). Quite worth the money... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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> snip > > Scally, > > I have used a wheel since day one, I went through all the Thrustmaster > > series each one lasted about 3 to 8 weeks then it was a hassel fixing > > broken springs and replacing bunji cords, if you buy a Thurstmaster > > you will kick yourself after. I found a wheel that is so much better > > it is built by hand like a tank and so smooth that you think that you > > are the best driver in the world, It's the TSW2 Wheel and pedals for > You're a very unlucky guy... ;^) > Although TM wheels are not made for eternity, my GP1 works perfectly for > almost 2 years (wheel pot replaced once). Quite worth the money... > l8er > ronny > -- > How to get rid of censorship in German game releases > <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

NOT TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS BUT YOU ARE THE LUCKY ONE. You also must not read the news groups as much as I do, everyone complains about Thrustmaster being a toy compared to the TSW or TSW2. It was nice to hear from you, all are welcome to their opinion. THANKS FOR THE REPLY Bob Hawkins

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> NOT TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS BUT YOU ARE THE LUCKY ONE. You also must not read > the news groups as much as I do, > everyone complains about Thrustmaster being a toy compared to the > TSW or TSW2. It was nice to hear from you, all are welcome to their > opinion. > THANKS FOR THE REPLY > Bob Hawkins

Why the screaming, buddy? Why would your oppinion hurt my feelings? There are a lot of people with my experience. As I said, TM stuff is not built for eternity, but it's not crap. Compared to a device, costing more than double, oh well, you can call it a toy. BTW, my reply was absolutly free! Glad you liked it! ;^) l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

RON, Thanks for the reply, I do like the end of your replies, I always get a kick out of grandpa :-) Always good to hear from you. Bob Hawkins

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> snip > <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

for Well ?? I'm in suspense. How much for a TSW2 ? How long you had it ? And what does it do wrong and right ? CYA

HIYA DAVID, I have not found anything wrong with my TSW, even if there was they have a life time warranty. The TSW has increased my lap times 2 mph. at all tracks it is so easy to drive, that I kick myself for the Thrustmasters at I went through, plastic toys. The TSW and TSW2 are built by hand and will last a life time, I race in 3 leagues, no problem no breaking springs or bunji cords in the TSW or TSW2. I hope this helped you, please let me know if you want to ask anymore questions, I will be happy to answer them for you. THANKS HERE IS THE SITE THAT WILL ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS http://soli.inav.net/~thomas/ BobHawkins

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:55:42 -0700, "David Vreeken" snip About $220 One month Pros: Quality. Parts welded together or securely bolted. Lifetime warranty. Weight. Feels like a steering wheel. Not like lightweight plastic. Realistic resistance. Uses steel springs for resistance, not elastic bungies. Can add clutch, more buttons, real MOMO racing wheel. More time racing, less time changing bungies and pots. Cons: Takes lots of desktop space, clunky clamp (easily modified) Regards, Rick Carlson

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>Pros: >Quality. Parts welded together or securely bolted. Lifetime warranty. >Weight. Feels like a steering wheel. Not like lightweight plastic. >Realistic resistance. Uses steel springs for resistance, not elastic >bungies. >Can add clutch, more buttons, real MOMO racing wheel.

I thought the MOMO wheel was only for the more expensive models. When I looked at the TSW2, the wheel sure doesn't resemble a Momo wheel to me. -- Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo - - V8Supercars - CART -

HIYA NATHAN, The TSW2 is made in a way that allows the user to add on extras as they want them. The TSW2 can be ordered with a MOMO WHEEL if you want or order the TSW2 and when you want the MOMO send for it. The TSW2 is a great wheel and you save a few dollars over the TSW, the TSW2 is the only wheel on the market warranted for life. THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS Bob Hawkins A HAPPY TSW USER > I thought the MOMO wheel was only for the more expensive models. > When I looked at the TSW2, the wheel sure doesn't resemble a Momo > wheel to me.

> >Can add clutch, more buttons, real MOMO racing wheel. > I thought the MOMO wheel was only for the more expensive models. > When I looked at the TSW2, the wheel sure doesn't resemble a Momo > wheel to me. Read the message, does it not say "can add clutch, more buttons, real Momo racing wheel"? Trev

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>> >Can add clutch, more buttons, real MOMO racing wheel. >> I thought the MOMO wheel was only for the more expensive models. >> When I looked at the TSW2, the wheel sure doesn't resemble a Momo >> wheel to me. >Read the message, does it not say "can add clutch, more buttons, real >Momo racing wheel"?

Oops, :-) And just to clarify, I'm not putting down the TSW range at all. In fact, I wish Australians had more choice when it comes to wheels. My question is, if you buy the cheaper TSW2, and then go adding all this stuff on, wouldn't it be better to buy the higher model with all the (extra) good bits on it in the first place? -- Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo - - V8Supercars - CART -

> My question is, if you buy the cheaper TSW2, and then go adding all > this stuff on, wouldn't it be better to buy the higher model with all > the (extra) good bits on it in the first place? Maybe, but I look at it this way... I can't afford the full-everything TSW right now, but I can buy the TSW2. Then I can add all the other bits as time goes by. In the meantime, I'm racing with a super quality wheel instead of waiting till I can afford it all at once. Trips