Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras readers
from ...
As you can see in the topic Im from Spain, here people who likes motorsports
(four wheels I mean) are a minority ... and I have seen recently some posts
from Spain. I thought I was alone here :)
I see lots of N2 post I think most of them from US ... (?)
And girls ?? there are girls here ? my sister likes only one driving game
(not a sim) NFS2 ... I dont know how she doesnt likes GP2, GPL, ...
Excuse my English
Ayrton McKafre
Roll call: where rec.autos.simulators readers live
A Spanish reader asked where the group's readers came from, and dozens replied from the UK, Norway, the Netherlands, Germany, Romania, Portugal, Mexico, Australia, Canada and across the US. Many described their local racing scene and how much US motorsport TV coverage they could get, with Eurosport praised in Europe for showing CART and NASCAR live. The thread showed how international the group was.
community/metareal motorsport
Automated summary.
On Wed, 13 May 1998 12:02:34 +0200, "Ayrton McKafre"
>Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras readers
>from ...
Hi Ayrton (great name BTW!)
I'm from Scotland in the U.K.. I'm not sure about girls on r.a.s.,
Alison is the only one I know of (but Alison is more into sims than
most of the guys here!). My sister has tried to drive once or twice
and my girlfriend once did a 188mph lap of Loudon in ICR2, but that
was two years ago and she hasn't looked at it since!
Cheers!
John
Hi!
I'm from Holland, I live in a small town called "Breda"
It's also close to the Belgian border.
Bart
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> Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras readers > from ... > As you can see in the topic Im from Spain, here people who likes motorsports > (four wheels I mean) are a minority ... and I have seen recently some posts > from Spain. I thought I was alone here :) > I see lots of N2 post I think most of them from US ... (?) > And girls ?? there are girls here ? my sister likes only one driving game > (not a sim) NFS2 ... I dont know how she doesnt likes GP2, GPL, ... > Excuse my English > Ayrton McKafreI live in Tampico. A city at the Gulf of Mexico, 375 miles south McAllen
Texas.
MotorSports are popular in Mexico. There are about 5 different leagues
(including four wheels and power boats). People here are getting more
involved and interested in auto racing thanks to Adrian Fernandez
performance in the Cart Series this year.
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> Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras > readers > from ... > As you can see in the topic Im from Spain, here people who likes > motorsports > (four wheels I mean) are a minority ... and I have seen recently some > posts > from Spain. I thought I was alone here :) > I see lots of N2 post I think most of them from US ... (?) > And girls ?? there are girls here ? my sister likes only one driving > game > (not a sim) NFS2 ... I dont know how she doesnt likes GP2, GPL, ... > Excuse my English > Ayrton McKafreQuoted text (7 lines)
> I live in Tampico. A city at the Gulf of Mexico, 375 miles south McAllen > Texas. > MotorSports are popular in Mexico. There are about 5 different leagues > (including four wheels and power boats). People here are getting more > involved and interested in auto racing thanks to Adrian Fernandez > performance in the Cart Series this year.Los Angeles, California here, Land of El Nino!
Damn I wish it would stop raining!
Don
> Los Angeles, California here, Land of El Nino!
>
> Damn I wish it would stop raining!
>
Melbourne, Australia.
I wish it would rain here and break the drought!
Bucharest , Romania ...
Not many motorsport activities around here ... except for some
rallys and some motocross contests....
> > Melbourne, Australia.
> > I wish it would rain here and break the drought!
Finally the snow has gone here, now might be a chance to go to the
track! Plenty of racing here!!(Super Touring, FF, FVL, Historic, F3, F4,
Sportscars, Special Saloons, Neon Cup...)
And BTW,
Norway is *****NOT**** a part of Sweden!!!!! :-D
Never saw a polar bear here either.......:)
Best,
Matt
--
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Cheek Racing Cars
http://home.sol.no/~kareknut/
(This is *the* improtant part!!! :-))))
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Best,
Edwin Solheim
ed_ on NROS
The Paddock - a legendary site..: http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock
Cheek Junior Team: http://home.sol.no/~solhmrek
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
As for racing around here, we have MASCAR (Maritime association of
stock car racing) They put on a really good show! I also went to see my
first Winston Cup race at Loudon, NH last July. It is as close as the
cup guys get to me (a 13 hour bus ride! Dale Earnhardt finished second so
it was all worth it!) NASCAR put on a great show, I just hope it doesn't
get ruined like some other pro sports.
Later,
John
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> > Finally the snow has gone here, now might be a chance to go to the > >track! Plenty of racing here!!(Super Touring, FF, FVL, Historic, F3, F4, > >Sportscars, Special Saloons, Neon Cup...) > >And BTW, > >Norway is *****NOT**** a part of Sweden!!!!! :-D > (This is *the* improtant part!!! :-))))>Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
>Later,
>John
Representing western Canada, I'm from Salmon Arm, British Columbia,
about five hours east of Vancouver. We have an NHRA-sanctioned
track about 90 minutes away (Ashcroft) but the closest NASCAR
tracks are in Washington state (the trucks ran at Monroe, near
Seattle, last weekend). I was lucky enough to attend two Winston
Cup races last season, the inaugural race at Fontana and the fall
race at Phoenix. Both were great races and the Fontana track is
an awesome facility. The sport needs more like it.
Rick
>U`re never at TEN anymore ED ?
>Beers and cheers
>(uncle) Goy
Been so damn busy at work lately Goy. My brother became father to a beatiful
little lady on Friday, which mean I have to run the family business more or
less alone the first few weeks. So life has been quite busy these last
weeks.
Anyway, my "revenge" comes in June as he will do the working as I head to
France and the 24 hr at Le Mans. :))))
Any others going?
--
Best,
Ed_
(now also an uncle:)))
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> Been so damn busy at work lately Goy. My brother became father to a beatiful > little lady on Friday, which mean I have to run the family business more or > less alone the first few weeks. So life has been quite busy these last > weeks. > Anyway, my "revenge" comes in June as he will do the working as I head to > France and the 24 hr at Le Mans. :)))) > Any others going? > -- > Best, > Ed_ > (now also an uncle:)))Hi,
I'm from Germany, Koblenz, near to the famous Nrburgring ( My girl-friend
lives about 5km from the ring !! ).
Cant wait to drive through the Karussel and Brnnchen in virtuality with the
cars from GPL, 'till now I only got around the Nordschleife on my
Mountain-Bike, 'cause getting around by car in reality could be very costly
[ there is no insurance when you crash your "real" car on the Nordschleife]
But, when I remind my laps at the glen in GPL-demo, i think, it will take me
some years to do one lap on the Nordschleife without crashing with the GP1
car ;-).
--
Gr?e,
Fr E-mail bitte no_spawn entfernen !
> Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras
> readers from ...
I'm from the UK (England), I live in Bromly, which is on the outskirts
of London, and I am quite near the old F1 circuit of Brands Hatch, which
is now used for Touring Car Racing, etc.
And as you probably know, us Brit's love almost *all* kinds of motor
sports: F1, Touring Car, Rallying, Motocross, Hill Climbing, 1/4 mile
drag racing, racing in cars, karts, bikes, boats, planes and anything
else you care to think of? Hell, some of us even like Nascar & Indy Car
Racing!!!!!
8?)
*Peter* 8-)
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Hi,
Is the racing coverage from North America any good over in the UK?
They showed the CART race twice here in Canada! Once with the ESPN
commentary on TSN and again with ABC commentary late night on CBC. I
watched both! (I wanted to hear Danny Sullivan's reaction to Greg Moore's
incredible pass with 5 laps to go! Greg Moore can sure control the car
well in those types of situations!). F1 coverage is also good here, I'am
looking forward to Monaco, I hope it equalizes the cars a lot more!
Later,
John
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> > Los Angeles, California here, Land of El Nino! > > Damn I wish it would stop raining! >Melbourne, Australia. >I wish it would rain here and break the drought!Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Love: F1, CART, NASCAR.
Watch: Everything except F1 ( GOD I miss F1 ).
Actually had a Trans-Am race through the downtown streets of my city for six
years, Damn that was cool.
Your just always causing problems aren't you Bart. :-)
--
Jiim Dunphy
The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com
> Hi!
> I'm from Holland, I live in a small town called "Breda"
> It's also close to the Belgian border.
> Bart
> > Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras
readers
> > from ...
> > As you can see in the topic Im from Spain, here people who likes
motorsports
> > (four wheels I mean) are a minority ... and I have seen recently some
posts
> > from Spain. I thought I was alone here :)
> > I see lots of N2 post I think most of them from US ... (?)
> > And girls ?? there are girls here ? my sister likes only one driving
game
> > (not a sim) NFS2 ... I dont know how she doesnt likes GP2, GPL, ...
> > Excuse my English
> > Ayrton McKafre
If you can get the Fox Sports South channel they have been showingthe
F1 Races.
Burton
>Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras readers
>from ...
>Excuse my English
>Ayrton McKafre
Well, it seems as though R.A.S. is pretty cosmopolitan...I`m from Portugal,
a little, uninteresting place called Odivelas. Racing here is an affaire for
the well-to-do, which means the very few...Only some Saloon Tropheys and
Formula Ford, but some interesting off-road racing and rallying.
> >Hi, I read r.a.s. long time ago, and I was wondering where are ras readers
> >from ...
> >Ayrton McKafre
> I`m from Portugal, a little, uninteresting place called Odivelas.
uninteresting.. I'll tell you about uninteresting
try this one Greenwood Indiana, , the only thing open in this
God forsaken place after 9pm is a White Castle and a Wallmart
(and they wonder why I drink so much).
Later
The Electric Gypsy
Switzerland! Fribourg to be exact (20 minutes to the West from Bern).
Love: Nascar
Like: C.A.R.T.
Don't like anymore: F1
Never liked: IRL, Dragsters, Tractor Pulling
Ciao!
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I'm from Bells Texas. Small town with nothing but a hamburger stand and a
dirt track for racin'. Fine for me.
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Remove junk from E-mail address to reply.
I'm also from Spain. From the north of Spain
My city is called Oviedo. In Asturias county
Regards
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Alejo Fernandez Perez (afp)
===================================================
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> >Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada > >Later, > >John > Representing western Canada, I'm from Salmon Arm, British Columbia, > about five hours east of Vancouver.says...
I was starting to wonder if there was anyone else from atlantic Canada
here! What's your favorite racing sim/game? (I really like GP2 and N2,
both haven't been off my HD in ages! I'am sure when/if I ever :) upgrade
my computer, GLP will go to the top of my list (I'll upgrade my computer
just to try the 'Ring! isn't it 14km long, and I thought Sears Point in
N2 was hard!)
Later,
John
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> > >Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada > > >Later, > > >John > > Representing western Canada, I'm from Salmon Arm, British Columbia, > > about five hours east of Vancouver. > C***tetown, PEI - Anybody else from PEI here? > Rob> Is the racing coverage from North America any good over in the >UK?
Hm, not for me it isn't! I don'y know if you can get American racing with
satellite, but living here in the Lake District it is impossible to get
planning permission for a dish!! i think Channel 5 show the CART races (at
about 1:00am!), but i'm part of the 90% of the country that can't get that
either. Oh well, at least i've got N2 and ICR2.
James Astley
Lion F1 International
I'm from Dublin, Ireland but I live in Canada, just outside Toronto, eh!
Anyone live east of TO and is interested in some head-to-head
IRC2 racing? I have other games too but I have the most "seat time"
in the Champcars.
Slainte
Alan
My view do not represent my employer, etc, etc . . .
I'm from Calgary, Alberta Canada. We have the World Famous Calgary
Stampede :) As for racing, Race City Speedway has a short oval and road
track. I get to see CASCAR, Legends and regular folks with 4,6, and 8
cylinders for Saturday Night Stocks. It's pretty darn fun.
I can't wait for the CASCAR first race of the season on May 30th.
Jason.
> Representing western Canada, I'm from Salmon Arm, British Columbia,
> about five hours east of Vancouver.
> Rick
>I'm from Calgary, Alberta Canada. We have the World Famous Calgary
>Stampede :)
But it's too damn cold and dry (I grew up there ;-). Now live in the
kinder and gentler Victoria, BC.
Joe
>Yeah it`s cool isn`t it, I can really recommend this uncle thing to all
>u guys out there, a lot of the fun and none of the "hassle", I just pop
>over to my brother`s whenever I`m go into "uncle-mode" :-)
Fancy any of my nephews and nieces to go with that one? 3 nephews and 7
nieces (1 more in a couple of months) means that we spend all our time
trying to find them birthday presents ;-) At least the eldest of them no
longer expects presents now!
Cheers,
Richard
--
We all bump into each other every day of our lives, and we render our opinions
whether we know anything or not, and if anybody catches us out we lie...
> Is the racing coverage from North America any good over in the UK?
It's not too bad and getting better! Eurosport (unencrypted satellite
channel) shows all the CART races live with their own commentary and the
majority of the NASCAR WC races (with US commentary). SKY (encrypted
satellite) shows some of the WC races (those covered by ABC) and even a few
of the BGN ones now. SKY also has the Indy500 live and the rest of the IRL
races (some live). SKY has a weekly roundup program which will show action
from Indy Lites, Barber Dodge, Trans Am, etc.
Terrestial TV coverage is limited to reruns of the CART races on Weds
nights.
One advantage we have is that our channels will often continue to show the
action whilst the US stations are on commercial breaks so we actually get
to see more of the racing than you <vbg>
Cheers,
Richard
--
We all bump into each other every day of our lives, and we render our opinions
whether we know anything or not, and if anybody catches us out we lie...
I'm from Spain too, Zaragoza, Northern Spain
***********************************************************
Jaime Bala?
ICQ # : 6873777
***********************************************************
Alejo Fernandez Perez escribi en mensaje
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>I'm also from Spain. From the north of Spain > My city is called Oviedo. In Asturias county > Regards >-- >==================================================== >Alejo Fernandez Perez (afp) >===================================================east greenbush,ny here!
deadworms|
:> Is the racing coverage from North America any good over in the >UK?
And James Astley replied...
:Hm, not for me it isn't! I don'y know if you can get American racing with
:satellite, but living here in the Lake District it is impossible to get
:planning permission for a dish!! i think Channel 5 show the CART races (at
:about 1:00am!), but i'm part of the 90% of the country that can't get that
:either. Oh well, at least i've got N2 and ICR2.
Sitting here in Coventry in the West Midlands, UK, I can confirm that we get
Championship Cars live on satellite, channel is Eurosport. Eurosport also try to
cover most NASCAR races ( that's if there is no hurling or pig racing to cover
:) ). Sky Sports do the ABC races ( Talladega and the Brickyard ) and
terrestrial channel 5 does hi-lites of the Championship Car season every now and
then.
Between losing NASCAR to some minority sport on satellite and not being allowed
to use NROS ( legally ) is a real pain.
Andy
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>> Finally the snow has gone here, now might be a chance to go to the >>track! Plenty of racing here!!(Super Touring, FF, FVL, Historic, F3, F4, >>Sportscars, Special Saloons, Neon Cup...) >>And BTW, >>Norway is *****NOT**** a part of Sweden!!!!! :-D > (This is *the* improtant part!!! :-))))Toronto, Ontario
--
Jiim Dunphy
The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com
> >I'm from Calgary, Alberta Canada. We have the World Famous Calgary
> >Stampede :)
> But it's too damn cold and dry (I grew up there ;-). Now live in the
> kinder and gentler Victoria, BC.
> Joe
> Is the racing coverage from North America any good over in the UK?
Pretty good, provided you have cable or satalite tv?
8?)
*Peter* 8-)
(NB: remove asterix to e-mail)
> it is impossible to get
> planning permission for a dish!!
Try cable tv instead of satellite?
*Peter* 8-)
(NB: remove asterix to e-mail)
>I'm from Dallas, Texas........but I lived in Mexico City for four
>months.
>RC
Well, Mexico City is an intersting city. Pretty big eh ? Lot of polution.
How was your time there ? We have a great beach in Tampico. Something very
different that you have seen in MC.
Cheers.
I'm from Chicago, where it's fairly difficult to find other auto
racing fans. As for me, I love F1 and also enjoy CART to
some extent. I don't care for NASCAR too much, though.
___________
Ted L. Nancy
"Birds is the key to the whole problem. It is my belief that
these sheep are laboring under the misapprehension that
they're birds. Observe their behavior. Take for a start the
sheeps' tendency to hop about the field on their back legs.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice
they do not so much fly as plummet. Observe for example
that ewe in that oak tree. She is clearly trying to teach her
lamb to fly. Talk about the blind leading the blind."
Graham Chapman, "Monty Python's Flying Circus,"
October 12, 1969
I'm in Battle Creek, MI, about an hour and a half from MIS (except on race
day, when it goes up to about three hours if you're at all worried about
your fenders ;-). Mainly, I follow NASCAR, but I'll watch just about any
kind of motorsports--I watched the Trans-Am series religiously when it was
on TNN last year, but they don't seem to be showing every race this year,
so...
RM
I live in Riverview NB :)
well
for the near future anyways........
Robert
ps
ever go to shubenacadie for sny of the racing there?
Coverage of US motor sport is very good now. We have _all_ the CART events
live and also _most_ of the NASCAR races this season. Since the same
channel (Eurosport) covers both, CART gets priority in the event of a clash.
The only time we miss out is due to rain delay and then generally we don't
get to see the race at all. All F1 races are also covered live of course.
As Peter said, us UK folk are into all forms of racing!!
Mike.
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>> Hell, some of us even like Nascar & Indy Car >> Racing!!!!! >Hi, > Is the racing coverage from North America any good over in the UK? >They showed the CART race twice here in Canada! Once with the ESPN >commentary on TSN and again with ABC commentary late night on CBC. I >watched both! (I wanted to hear Danny Sullivan's reaction to Greg Moore's >incredible pass with 5 laps to go! Greg Moore can sure control the car >well in those types of situations!). F1 coverage is also good here, I'am >looking forward to Monaco, I hope it equalizes the cars a lot more! >Later, >JohnMe?? - Toronto, Canada. Although originally from Liverpool, England.
doktorB
----
London, Ontario. (born and raised)
I really enjoy N2, TPTCC (most of all) and Network Q rally.
Verne
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>>Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada >>Later, >>John >Representing western Canada, I'm from Salmon Arm, British Columbia, >about five hours east of Vancouver. We have an NHRA-sanctioned >track about 90 minutes away (Ashcroft) but the closest NASCAR >tracks are in Washington state (the trucks ran at Monroe, near >Seattle, last weekend). I was lucky enough to attend two Winston >Cup races last season, the inaugural race at Fontana and the fall >race at Phoenix. Both were great races and the Fontana track is >an awesome facility. The sport needs more like it. >Rick> Coverage of US motor sport is very good now. We have _all_ the CART events
> live and also _most_ of the NASCAR races this season. Since the same
Most?? I'd say a few! The biggest complain I have with Eurosport is the
dismal
information about scheduling you get. If a NASCAR event is rained out,
don't
expect them to update their VideoText in time, so you don't miss the
rerun...
l8er
ronny
--
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kiddo?"
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'---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
>I'm from Surrey, BC. Glad to see any Canadians Identified as such. I hope
>all Canadians have seen and plan to participate in the Players Racing Team
>Simulator Challenge. Visit www.players-racing.com. I am the Canadian
>Distributor for Hyper Stimulator.
<snip>
Ok here is my official r.a.s. answer to this thread ;-), sorry for taking
time I was out in Duty in the Northern Canada (Where there is still snow,
yes).
I am from Montreal, Quebec. Home of the winniest professional sports team
in North America, the Mecca of Hockey, the biggest inclined tower in the
world (no it's not in Pisa), home of the biggest Jazz festival in the world
and home of the biggest comedy festival in the world.
And I forgot there is something called a F1 track here ;-) Check out my
weekend recap directly from the stands there on June 5-6-7.
Great city, it's a mixture of American and European civilization, and NO, we
don't live in huts, hunting and exchanging furs for *** <g> Fourth
biggest city in North America.
Btw, I checked out the Players challenge, but I couldn't bring my setup OR
change the wheel setting (neither take off the Fxx aids). So I didn't raced,
for me anybody could be fast. But I agree I would give anything to get a
piece of those Hyperstimulators ;-)
Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club
Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
--"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
hey, i was born in zaragoza
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>I'm from Spain too, Zaragoza, Northern Spain >*********************************************************** > Jaime Bala? > ICQ # : 6873777 >*********************************************************** >Alejo Fernandez Perez escribi en mensaje >>I'm also from Spain. From the north of Spain >> My city is called Oviedo. In Asturias county >> Regards >>-- >>==================================================== >>Alejo Fernandez Perez (afp) >>===================================================Jesus, somebody has to be from the states-may as well be
me.....Howell,N.J.....Right next to Wall stadium,Ray Evernhams old stomping
grounds. I said stomping, not stampeding!
Ed "The pace car is in...." Go # 2 & # 88
OK, Ed, you're not alone. Here's another from the lower 48, cradle of
decadent civilization - Chicago, Illinois (I feel like I'm at a
political convention...)
> Jesus, somebody has to be from the states-may as well be
> me.....Howell,N.J.....Right next to Wall stadium,Ray Evernhams old stomping
> grounds. I said stomping, not stampeding!
> Ed "The pace car is in...." Go # 2 & # 88
Silly Americans!!! (Dave & Ed):
You were meant to edit the Subject line of the message, and after the
"from?", you were meant to put where YOU were from (Re: Where are r.a.s.
readers from ? USA)
Why is it everyone else in the world had no problems figuring this out, but
TWO Americans did?? :o))
hmmm...
A Crazy Canuck
stomping
>> grounds. I said stomping, not stampeding!
>> Ed "The pace car is in...." Go # 2 & # 88
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>OK, Ed, you're not alone. Here's another from the lower 48, cradle of >decadent civilization - Chicago, Illinois (I feel like I'm at a >political convention...) >> Jesus, somebody has to be from the states-may as well be >> me.....Howell,N.J.....Right next to Wall stadium,Ray Evernhams oldToo many Labatt's! Ed
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