TSW & FF & Momo

Hey everybody, Over the last two months I have posted a lot of questions here about pedals and steering wheels for my pc. For about a year or more I have been using a logitech momo ff racing wheel (black version). I am happy with the wheel but I have been seeking to buy new pedals for a while. I made the decision on getting the TSW universal pedals, but now I am considering the whole TSW Cup setup. With the momo I have been using 50% FF, which isn't very much, but I guess I do rely on it some. How do you TSW users think I will adjust to using a wheel like the TSW which has no FF? Is the TSW wheel tight enough that it will have a little resistance despite the fact that there is no FF? BTW, the reason I am considering the TSW is because I have a second PC now and I would like to play NR2003 against friends via my home network. Thanks ahead, Shock

I have a black Momo w. TSW pedals (my fav setup), an Ol' Red Logi WMFF w. ECCI "tractor" pedals (my least fav setup) and an ancient ECCI non-FF that I bought for $400 in the last century that I still treasure. It depends on what you play...and how much you like FF. I actually prefer GPL w/o FF, at least w. the ultra-precise ECCI. OTOH, I have come to rely on FF w. N2003 w. 50% (or less) FF. Some modern sims have lousy FF (more like console "rumble" game pads) and some are unplayable w/o it. Personal pref, I'd say.... "Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey everybody, > > Over the last two months I have posted a lot of questions here aboutpedals > and steering wheels for my pc. For about a year or more I have been usinga > logitech momo ff racing wheel (black version). I am happy with the wheel > but I have been seeking to buy new pedals for a while. I made thedecision > on getting the TSW universal pedals, but now I am considering the wholeTSW > Cup setup. With the momo I have been using 50% FF, which isn't very much, > but I guess I do rely on it some. How do you TSW users think I willadjust > to using a wheel like the TSW which has no FF? Is the TSW wheel tight > enough that it will have a little resistance despite the fact that thereis > no FF? BTW, the reason I am considering the TSW is because I have asecond > PC now and I would like to play NR2003 against friends via my homenetwork. > > Thanks ahead, > > Shock > >

"Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey everybody, > > Over the last two months I have posted a lot of questions here aboutpedals > and steering wheels for my pc. For about a year or more I have been usinga > logitech momo ff racing wheel (black version). I am happy with the wheel > but I have been seeking to buy new pedals for a while. I made thedecision > on getting the TSW universal pedals, but now I am considering the wholeTSW > Cup setup. With the momo I have been using 50% FF, which isn't very much, > but I guess I do rely on it some. How do you TSW users think I willadjust > to using a wheel like the TSW which has no FF? Is the TSW wheel tight > enough that it will have a little resistance despite the fact that thereis > no FF? BTW, the reason I am considering the TSW is because I have asecond > PC now and I would like to play NR2003 against friends via my homenetwork. > > Thanks ahead, > > Shock > > Hey Shock, I went from the pre-Momo Wingman Formula Force with FF to the TSW2 Cup and I can tell ya that I don't miss the FF at all. The spring tension as-is from Thomas is perfect for centering the wheel as needed and has plenty of resistance to turn against while cornering. I wouldn't go back to force feedback now if you paid me to, honestly. But who am I? A nobody, a semi-retired online league racer (I only race 1 night a week now lol). Take a look at the top handful of guys here whom you may actually recognize and see what they have to say about it: http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/feedback.html And I'm with the Carl Long guy on that page above, I've raced mine for a good good while (going on 3 years now) and it still races now like the day I unpacked it. I say give it a shot, you won't be let down, and even if you are, there will be someone that will buy a TSW off you I'd bet.

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> "Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hey everybody, > > > > Over the last two months I have posted a lot of questions here about > pedals > > and steering wheels for my pc. For about a year or more I have been

using > a > > logitech momo ff racing wheel (black version). I am happy with thewheel > > but I have been seeking to buy new pedals for a while. I made the > decision > > on getting the TSW universal pedals, but now I am considering the whole > TSW > > Cup setup. With the momo I have been using 50% FF, which isn't verymuch,

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> > but I guess I do rely on it some. How do you TSW users think I will > adjust > > to using a wheel like the TSW which has no FF? Is the TSW wheel tight > > enough that it will have a little resistance despite the fact that there > is > > no FF? BTW, the reason I am considering the TSW is because I have a > second > > PC now and I would like to play NR2003 against friends via my home > network. > > > > Thanks ahead, > > > > Shock > > > > > > Hey Shock, > > I went from the pre-Momo Wingman Formula Force with FF to the TSW2 Cup and

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> can tell ya that I don't miss the FF at all. The spring tension as-is from > Thomas is perfect for centering the wheel as needed and has plenty of > resistance to turn against while cornering. I wouldn't go back to force > feedback now if you paid me to, honestly. > > But who am I? A nobody, a semi-retired online league racer (I only race 1 > night a week now lol). Take a look at the top handful of guys here whom

you > may actually recognize and see what they have to say about it: > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/feedback.html > > And I'm with the Carl Long guy on that page above, I've raced mine for a > good good while (going on 3 years now) and it still races now like the dayI > unpacked it. I say give it a shot, you won't be let down, and even if you > are, there will be someone that will buy a TSW off you I'd bet. > > EDIT: Typo alert, I should have said CARL EDWARDS. So far as I know, Carl Long is a not a TSW user. I apologize for the mix up.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:50:22 -0600, Shock wrote: > Hey everybody, > > no FF? BTW, the reason I am considering the TSW is because I have a second > PC now and I would like to play NR2003 against friends via my home network. > Hi Shock, a friend of mine races on the Momo with FF while I have a TSW setup, and don't miss a thing about not having FF on my setup. I am actualyl slower on his Momo than on my own rig. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I have turned off FF on my MSFF wheel. I do not miss anything. I am looking at moving to the ECCI and TSW setups. Norman "Shock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey everybody, > > Over the last two months I have posted a lot of questions here aboutpedals > and steering wheels for my pc. For about a year or more I have beenusing a > logitech momo ff racing wheel (black version). I am happy with thewheel > but I have been seeking to buy new pedals for a while. I made thedecision > on getting the TSW universal pedals, but now I am considering thewhole TSW > Cup setup. With the momo I have been using 50% FF, which isn't verymuch, > but I guess I do rely on it some. How do you TSW users think I willadjust > to using a wheel like the TSW which has no FF? Is the TSW wheel tight > enough that it will have a little resistance despite the fact thatthere is > no FF? BTW, the reason I am considering the TSW is because I have asecond > PC now and I would like to play NR2003 against friends via my homenetwork. > > Thanks ahead, > > Shock > >