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GPL Frame Rate

18 posts by 12 people · 18 Jul 1998 - 24 Jul 1998

I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now.
The Monster card will make a huge difference. I drive the GPL demo on a K6 200, 32 MB and a similar 3dfx card as the Monster (the Orchid Righteous). It runs with every graphics on, except the racing groove (cause I think it's to visible to be realistic :o) ), at 640*480 or 800*600, and my best time is a 1:07.4. I believe you will need a faster CPU if you're going to notice a significant difference between a Voodoo 1 and a Voodoo 2 card, so the only difference you get with a Voodoo 2 is the possibility to drive at 1024*768, since it has at least 8 MB memory. /Christer, hope this helps :o) -- http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41236/ (Read all about the "Global online racing"-proposal under "For developers". Read it a couple of times, cause noone has understood it the first time they've read it yet :o) )
Thanks for the info, Christer.
Quoted text (14 lines)> The Monster card will make a huge difference. I drive the GPL demo on a K6 200, > 32 MB and a similar 3dfx card as the Monster (the Orchid Righteous). It runs > with every graphics on, except the racing groove (cause I think it's to visible > to be realistic :o) ), at 640*480 or 800*600, and my best time is a 1:07.4. I > believe you will need a faster CPU if you're going to notice a significant > difference between a Voodoo 1 and a Voodoo 2 card, so the only difference you > get with a Voodoo 2 is the possibility to drive at 1024*768, since it has at > least 8 MB memory. > /Christer, hope this helps :o) > -- > http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41236/ (Read all about the "Global online > racing"-proposal under "For developers". Read it a couple of times, cause noone > has understood it the first time they've read it yet :o) )
>I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my >machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a >Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond >Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big >difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more >for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now. A 3Dfx card makes a lot of a difference. The demo was virtually unplayable on my P166 before I got a Monster 3D. Now it's very smooth and beautiful to look at. The only alternative for the GPL demo would be a Rendition-based card. The final release will support other 3D chipsets via D3D, I believe. As for choosing between Voodoo 1 and 2, I understand that only the faster systems (PII-233 and above) will see the full benefit of a Voodoo 2 over the older model. A Monster 2 or similar will give you higher resolutions, however. Personally, I don't think you can't go wrong with a Monster 1 for $69.- [posted & mailed] -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome. Uni des Saarlands \ and U.S. law. You have been warned.
my config: amd k6-200, 48 MB, DM Voodoo I card, el-cheapo 2mb S3 card. GPL runs very smoothly on my system (except for when you hit the dirt), so I guess it must be the voodoo I. ;-) Regards, Uwe -- Spam-proof e-mail: Uwe Schuerkamp <hoover at telemedia . de> http://www.telemedia.de/~hoover ////// Phone: +49-5241-80-10-66 Best of Scottish Folk: http://home.pages.de/~nsg >>> Blue Ribbon Campaign: Support Free Speech on the Internet <<<
A Monster 1 3dfx card puts you in a whole new world ! It appears that a 3dfx card is mandatory for all sims released after 1/1/98. 3d quality varies from sim to sim. I upgraded to 32mb of ram at the same time. Therefore I think your 64mb ram will be more than adequate. Tim >I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my >machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a >Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond >Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big >difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more >for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now.
P Gagg 19 Jul 1998#414341
> I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my > machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a > Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond > Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big > difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out > more > for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now. YES, YES, YES, get a 3Dfx card (either a Voodoo1 or Voodoo2) but it *WILL* make a big difference. With a K6 200 (clocked to 225) a 4Mb Voodoo1 3Dfx card and 64Mb SDram GPL flies on my pc just fine. 8-) *Peter* 8-) (NB: remove asterix to e-mail)
Scott Moore 19 Jul 1998#414342
Or, if you are mainly concerned with running GPL and other Papyrus/Sierra sims, get a Rendition card. It'll replace your Matrox, and run GPL better than any card on the market. I have a Stealth II in a P166MMX based machine, with 32 meg of RAM, and run the demo at 800x600 with all details on, and it works great. I have a friend with a 233 /Pure 3D combe, and mine looks much better and runs just as smooth...a Hercules Thriller 3D is a hell of a deal right now.. Scott Moore http://members.xoom.com/HoosierMS/
Zonky 20 Jul 1998#414416
Quoted text (17 lines)>>I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my >>machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a >>Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond >>Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big >>difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more >>for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now. >A 3Dfx card makes a lot of a difference. The demo was virtually >unplayable on my P166 before I got a Monster 3D. Now it's very smooth >and beautiful to look at. >The only alternative for the GPL demo would be a Rendition-based card. >The final release will support other 3D chipsets via D3D, I believe. >As for choosing between Voodoo 1 and 2, I understand that only the >faster systems (PII-233 and above) will see the full benefit of a >Voodoo 2 over the older model. A Monster 2 or similar will give you >higher resolutions, however. Personally, I don't think you can't go >wrong with a Monster 1 for $69.-
Ho-hum. Well, the press beta release as provided by Sierra to my journo flatmate doesn't do so hot at all with other cars around. GP2 has a new challanger in First Corner slowdown ;) P2-350 Voodoo2. Z.
ymenard 20 Jul 1998#414417
Zonker wrote Well something is wrong with your system. Or you have a really early beta. - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Well he must have something wrong with his computer. With a P266 Celeron, a Diamond Stealth 220, 19 AI cars, and all graphics on at 800x600 the slowdown at the first corner is barely noticeable. At the standing start frame rate is about 15fps, by the first corner at Monza it is 27fps. I would have to say that on a PII 350 it should be allot better! Thanks John
Quoted text (19 lines)>Zonker wrote >>Well, the press beta release as provided by Sierra to my journo flatmate >>doesn't do so hot at all with other cars around. GP2 has a new challanger >in >>First Corner slowdown ;) >>P2-350 Voodoo2. >Well something is wrong with your system. >Or you have a really early beta. >- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club >- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Might I suggest that you wait until the released version before leaping to conclusions on the basis of a beta release? (It's a wonder that conclusions are not an endangered species, considering the number that have been leapt at, particularly in this forum!) > Well, the press beta release as provided by Sierra to my journo flatmate > doesn't do so hot at all with other cars around. GP2 has a new challanger in > First Corner slowdown ;) -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
I just bought and installed the Diamond Monster 3dfx card today and all I can say is.. wow!! What a difference. Not only does the GPL demo run smoothly at high graphics but my other favorite sims (especially F15) are like new games. Thanks for the advice, guys. > I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my > machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a > Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond > Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big > difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more > for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now.
Doug Bur 21 Jul 1998#414517
> I just bought and installed the Diamond Monster 3dfx card today and all I > can say is.. wow!! What a difference. Not only does the GPL demo run > smoothly at high graphics but my other favorite sims (especially F15) are > like new games. Thanks for the advice, guys. Glad you like it !! If you want to see a game that is TOTALLY unplayable and awesome w/the card, try Carmageddon. I originally downloaded the demo and then trashed it when playing before I got my Monster3D.. Then once I got the M3D, I couldn't believe it was the same game. Enjoy... > > I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my > > machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a > > Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond > > Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big > > difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more > > for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now.
Doug Bur 21 Jul 1998#414518
Quoted text (9 lines)> > I just bought and installed the Diamond Monster 3dfx card today and all I > > can say is.. wow!! What a difference. Not only does the GPL demo run > > smoothly at high graphics but my other favorite sims (especially F15) are > > like new games. Thanks for the advice, guys. > Glad you like it !! > If you want to see a game that is TOTALLY unplayable and awesome w/the > card, try Carmageddon.
oops -- I meant to say TOTALLY unplayable in SOFTWARE RENDERING mode and awesome w/the m3d card...
Quoted text (16 lines)> I originally downloaded the demo and then trashed it when playing before > I got my Monster3D.. > Then once I got the M3D, I couldn't believe it was the same game. > Enjoy... > > > I just downloaded the GPL demo and it runs like a slide show on my > > > machine with the graphics turned up. I have a P-233 w/64mb ram and a > > > Matrox Mystique 3d card. There is an ad in the paper for a Diamond > > > Monster 3dfx card for $69 (after rebate). Would this card make a big > > > difference in my performance? Or would it be worth it to shell out more > > > for the Voodoo 2 cards coming out now.
Zonky 21 Jul 1998#414519
Quoted text (8 lines)>Well he must have something wrong with his computer. With a P266 Celeron, a >Diamond Stealth 220, 19 AI cars, and all graphics on at 800x600 the slowdown >at the first corner is barely noticeable. At the standing start frame rate >is about 15fps, by the first corner at Monza it is 27fps. I would have to >say that on a PII 350 it should be allot better! >Thanks >John
er... and i just noticed... you think 15fps is an acceptbale frame rate?
Zonky 21 Jul 1998#414520
Quoted text (8 lines)>Well he must have something wrong with his computer. With a P266 Celeron, a >Diamond Stealth 220, 19 AI cars, and all graphics on at 800x600 the slowdown >at the first corner is barely noticeable. At the standing start frame rate >is about 15fps, by the first corner at Monza it is 27fps. I would have to >say that on a PII 350 it should be allot better! >Thanks >John
I'll have to confirm the version numbers. I can assure u there is nothing wrong with the system at all... Unless Papy have pulled another whack we love Rendition trick...... Z.
Quoted text (19 lines)>>Zonker wrote >>>Well, the press beta release as provided by Sierra to my journo flatmate >>>doesn't do so hot at all with other cars around. GP2 has a new challanger >>in >>>First Corner slowdown ;) >>>P2-350 Voodoo2. >>Well something is wrong with your system. >>Or you have a really early beta. >>- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >>- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >>- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club >>- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >>- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >>- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
ymenard 24 Jul 1998#414773
Doug Burg wrote
Quoted text (12 lines)>> I just bought and installed the Diamond Monster 3dfx card today and all I >> can say is.. wow!! What a difference. Not only does the GPL demo run >> smoothly at high graphics but my other favorite sims (especially F15) are >> like new games. Thanks for the advice, guys. >Glad you like it !! >If you want to see a game that is TOTALLY unplayable and awesome w/the >card, try Carmageddon. >I originally downloaded the demo and then trashed it when playing before >I got my Monster3D..
Doug... I just saw this... Don't say the "C" word here. It's cursed... you know it's rec.autos.simulators.... not alt.belzebuth.devil.cars.die.die.die ;-P - Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) - "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

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