Digital Edge F1 Sim

Any one got a Digital Edge F1 Sim wheel and pedals?I am looking to get a new wheel and pedal unit,up to $500 Aus,can't afford a Hyperstimulator, the old T2's getting old and tired. The F1 Sim looks ok but i was hoping someone might have one and let me know what they think of it.Can it be switched to two axis for acceleration and braking? Sid.

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> Any one got a Digital Edge F1 Sim wheel and pedals?I am looking to get a new > wheel and pedal unit,up to $500 Aus,can't afford a Hyperstimulator, the old > T2's getting old and tired. > The F1 Sim looks ok but i was hoping someone might have one and let me know > what they think of it.Can it be switched to two axis for acceleration and > braking? > Sid.

I've been using one for almost 2 years now - all I can say is it has stood up to the punishment extremely well. The mounting is great, none of the messing about clamping and unclamping, 2 thumbscrew things and the wheel's off the desk. I would say however that I do clamp the fron to the baseboard to the desk permenantly with the monitor sitting on the back. Make sure you go for the full version though, the compact, whilst the blue wheel looks cool has plastic pedals which aren't as strong as the steel ones in the full version. When it comes to adjustment the setup is superb, switching between one and two axes for the pedals is done using a switch in the pedal box. It means opening the box but it is designed for this and the instructions step you through it well. The pedals themselves can be adjusted for travel and "foot off" position. Another suggestion - place something between the pedal box and the wall or something solid to stop it sliding away from you when you hit the brake. I found that whilst the pedal box didn't slide too badly on the carpet it was enough to be annoying. All in all I would say that it was a good investment, to the point where I would probably replace it with another if that was ever necessary.

Sid, The Digital Edge F1 Sim is a well built wheel which is extremely steady across the axes - they must use top quality pots. They do a cheap model which is nowhere near as good - don't get get confused - they look pretty similar. I don't like the steering very much - I don't know how they do the springs but it's all done in a thin tube and doesn't centre nearly as well as a Thrustmaster F1 or even a GP1. Also the table mounting is odd - it basically attaches to a board which goes under the monitor. This makes 2 player races tricky and also moves a bit when you turn hard. They heavier your monitor - the better - if you got a 14 or 15 inch one you'll have to think of another method of attachment. The pedals are deep and smooth but there's not enough room on the platform for your heels so you have to pad in up with books or something which inevitably shift about a bit as you drive. There is no apparent separate/combined switch on the F1 Sim - there is on the Thrustmaster F1. Having said that on the ACM game card's utility the Y2 axes does show some activity - quite whether this means that installation of separate Y1/Y2 axes is easy, I'm not at all sure. I prefer a Thrustmaster F1 for actual racing but a Digital Edge will outlive it. Having said all this my TSW Sport has just arrived and that has quite superlative steering. I've one or two other problems that need to be resolved with Thomas Enterprises before I can give that the definitive thumbs up. I'll post to the group once these are sorted (or not!!). What is a Hyperstimulator? Paul

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> Any one got a Digital Edge F1 Sim wheel and pedals?I am looking to get a new > wheel and pedal unit,up to $500 Aus,can't afford a Hyperstimulator, the old > T2's getting old and tired. > The F1 Sim looks ok but i was hoping someone might have one and let me know > what they think of it.Can it be switched to two axis for acceleration and > braking? > Sid.

Thanks for the information,it seems the F1 Sim is a good wheel,I think i will end up getting one of them.As for the Hyperstimulator go here and drool. http://www.hyperstim.com/ Sid. >Sid, >The Digital Edge F1 Sim is a well built wheel which is extremely steady across >the axes - they must use top quality pots. They do a cheap model which is >nowhere near as good - don't get get confused - they look pretty similar. I >don't like the steering very much - I don't know how they do the springs but >it's all done in a thin tube and doesn't centre nearly as well as a Thrustmaster >F1 or even a GP1. Also the table mounting is odd - it basically attaches to a >board which goes under the monitor. This makes 2 player races tricky and also >moves a bit when you turn hard. They heavier your monitor - the better - if you >got a 14 or 15 inch one you'll have to think of another method of attachment. >The pedals are deep and smooth but there's not enough room on the platform for >your heels so you have to pad in up with books or something which inevitably >shift about a bit as you drive. There is no apparent separate/combined switch on >the F1 Sim - there is on the Thrustmaster F1. Having said that on the ACM game >card's utility the Y2 axes does show some activity - quite whether this means >that installation of separate Y1/Y2 axes is easy, I'm not at all sure. >I prefer a Thrustmaster F1 for actual racing but a Digital Edge will outlive it. >Having said all this my TSW Sport has just arrived and that has quite >superlative steering. I've one or two other problems that need to be resolved >with Thomas Enterprises before I can give that the definitive thumbs up. I'll >post to the group once these are sorted (or not!!). >What is a Hyperstimulator? >Paul

Hi Paul, Sid, I've got a F1 Sim. I'll add some comments. Remco

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>Sid, >The Digital Edge F1 Sim is a well built wheel which is extremely steady across >the axes - they must use top quality pots. They do a cheap model which is >nowhere near as good - don't get get confused - they look pretty similar. I >don't like the steering very much - I don't know how they do the springs but >it's all done in a thin tube and doesn't centre nearly as well as a Thrustmaster >F1 or even a GP1.

I agree so far. There is now a new version, which seems to center better. Also available as an upgrade. I've not played with it, though. Well, I like this base board. It's a bit annoying to install, compared to a clamp system, but it works really well. Much better than the TM T1 I used. I agree. Well, I got one switch. You 've to open the pedal unit to reach it. There seems to be some models without one. Be warned, the separate axis mode doesn't work well in Windows95/98 DirectX 5.x. (I don't know about DirectX 6.0) It does work very well in GP2 and GPL(demo). Thrustmaster has good support, so I don't think that's an isue. I prefer the DE F1, I like the pedals, which are adjustable, and the paddles for changing gears. Futher more, it's possible to grow with DE. Look at: http://www.interactiveracing.com/ Great! Keep us posted about your TSW. I'm interested in the differences between the TWS and the DE F1. The ultimate controler, and also priced like that. (cheapest model > American $1000 ) Look at: http://www.hyperstim.com/

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>Paul >> Any one got a Digital Edge F1 Sim wheel and pedals?I am looking to get a new >> wheel and pedal unit,up to $500 Aus,can't afford a Hyperstimulator, the old >> T2's getting old and tired. >> The F1 Sim looks ok but i was hoping someone might have one and let me know >> what they think of it.Can it be switched to two axis for acceleration and >> braking? >> Sid.

I took a sim compact to bits to fix it. Inside, the construction quality is very rough. Centering is by a thick *** "sock" which is fixed at each end. At one end it is fixed to the case, at the other end to the steering shaft. As far as the pedals are concerned, I mounted my sim compact ones on a wood frame which raised the angle of the pedals up to about 45 degs relative to the floor. They doesn't scoot away so much now (Nailing the whole thing to the floor helped too! I don't use the base board. I just screwed the thing to the table thro' the three holes in the flange at the end of the steering tube

Hi Remco >>What is a Hyperstimulator? Have you seen the ECCI CDS4000 Monza at US$ 1,299 plus shipping? <g> Check out http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/extreme/ I'm using a GP500 by the way, which was the predecessor to the F1 SIM. It's still going strong after some fairly intensive use and limited maintenance. I'm also hoping to upgrade to the new centering system when available. Lawrence

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:36:24 +0100, Paul Jones >What is a Hyperstimulator? >Paul www.hyperstim.com careful not to drool on your keyboard when you see them -- Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo - - V8Supercars - CART -

Sid... You could always fit your T2 to the bath tub and make believe you have a Hyperstimulator!!! Alternatively.. you could take a serious look at supporting a great Aussie product-- the Advantage1: Competition Driving System --highly recommended by NASS'98 BGN points leader Greg Colgan. Go! Greg Go! - the home page of a simulator racer http://www.alphalink.com.au/~colgan Advantage1 - Competition Driving Systems http://www.ferrarodesign.com.au --------------------------------------------------------- >Any one got a Digital Edge F1 Sim wheel and pedals?I am looking to get a new >wheel and pedal unit,up to $500 Aus,can't afford a Hyperstimulator, the old >T2's getting old and tired. >The F1 Sim looks ok but i was hoping someone might have one and let me know >what they think of it.Can it be switched to two axis for acceleration and >braking? >Sid.

I've had my F1 Sim for a couple of weeks now. Seems well constructed, I love the mounting system for the wheel, my 19" monitor hold's it down great! The pedal box seems sturdy but oddly designed. The steering doesn't center very well either. The steering and pedals seem to have great feel. With all that said, I feel I got my money's worth and I would purchase another. Tad