GP Legends Sound!!!

First try reducing the number of sounds heard. If that doesn't help, try reducing the level of hardware acceleration in the MonsterSound control panel. - Eric

>Get a hissing sound thru my Cambridge >speakers . Using a Monster sound mx200. Anyone else experiencing this. Having >no problems with other games. I've got the same problem. It's awful: big-time. I'm using an Ensoniq AudioPCI card through Altec ACS45's. Changing the # of sounds has no effect, nor does changing the sound settings in the app.ini or player.ini files. What it does to the Ferrari's sound is painful to listen to - Arrrgh! No problem with any other games. Any thoughts out there??

> It isn't the wind noise, is it? Seriously. If it only happens when > driving the car and goes away if you hit F10 (arcade view), it is the > wind. I don't know if one can turn it off. Well..you can uppack the sound.dat file and edit the wind noise down to nothing. One approach, anyway. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

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>>Get a hissing sound thru my Cambridge >>speakers . Using a Monster sound mx200. Anyone else experiencing this. Having >>no problems with other games. >I've got the same problem. It's awful: big-time. I'm using an Ensoniq >AudioPCI card through Altec ACS45's. Changing the # of sounds has no effect, >nor does changing the sound settings in the app.ini or player.ini files. What >it does to the Ferrari's sound is painful to listen to - Arrrgh! No problem >with any other games. Any thoughts out there??

It isn't the wind noise, is it? Seriously. If it only happens when driving the car and goes away if you hit F10 (arcade view), it is the wind. I don't know if one can turn it off. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

>> It isn't the wind noise, is it? Seriously. If it only happens when >> driving the car and goes away if you hit F10 (arcade view), it is the >> wind. I don't know if one can turn it off. >Well..you can uppack the sound.dat file and edit the wind noise down >to nothing. One approach, anyway. I turned down the volume of the .wav file in the demo. After replacing the generic Lotus engine with one from a website, the wind was just too noisy. Does the pack/unpack utility we used for ICR2 files work with GPL? -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

> Does the pack/unpack utility we used for ICR2 files work with GPL? Yes...the very same utilities.. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

> It isn't the wind noise, is it? Seriously. If it only happens when > driving the car and goes away if you hit F10 (arcade view), it is the > wind. I don't know if one can turn it off. >Well..you can uppack the sound.dat file and edit the wind noise down >to nothing. One approach, anyway. Nope. Ensoniq AudioPCI w/latest CL SB 64PCI drivers, DX6, & Altec ACS45's, and it's from the engine sounds. I unpacked the sound.dat file and played the wavs seperately. There's a gravelly static-like quality to the sound that's annoying at a minimum, but downright criminal with the Ferrari. I don't know whether it's a hardware problem or a listener preference, but I can't imagine the rapturous responses to the 312B engine sound (or the others) if they're hearing what I hear. You get enough to know it's a great sound, if not for the static (maybe not the best word), but are aggravated by the overall quality. A bit like listening to blown speakers, but they're not. It really gets in the way of enjoying GPL. In Sierra's tech support FAQ for GPL, they suggest running DXSETUP from the CD and checking if the sound drivers show as "certified" for Direct X. Did that and CL's latest (for this card) are not. Still, I haven't seen this problem elsewhere. Hmmmmmmmmmm. Steve B.

Have to agree with Steve B.; I also have the Ensonic card w/ latest drivers, and engine sound, while OK, cannot be what others are hearing. Scratchy sound, almost reminiscent of a worn out LP. (for those who are too young to remember, an LP(sometimes refered to as a "record") was a funny looking flat piece of some kind of plastic, usually black, that you rotated, put a needle on, & heard music from. As it wore out from the friction of the needle sometimes causing little scratches, the sound deteriorated. Hence the term "Sounds scratchy". Another technical marvel called an "8-track player" would begin to sound(no pun intended ;-) ) the death knell for the LP. Don't even get me started on 8-tracks, or stories about pulling little ribbons out of tiny places while in an uncompromising position, because it was her "favorite song", will make me forget what the h*** I was responding to. Uhhhhh, what the h*** WAS I responding to?????? Brian

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>> It isn't the wind noise, is it? Seriously. If it only happens when >> driving the car and goes away if you hit F10 (arcade view), it is the >> wind. I don't know if one can turn it off. >>Well..you can uppack the sound.dat file and edit the wind noise down >>to nothing. One approach, anyway. >Nope. Ensoniq AudioPCI w/latest CL SB 64PCI drivers, DX6, & Altec ACS45's,

and >it's from the engine sounds. I unpacked the sound.dat file and played the wavs >seperately. There's a gravelly static-like quality to the sound that's >annoying at a minimum, but downright criminal with the Ferrari. I don't know >whether it's a hardware problem or a listener preference, but I can't imagine >the rapturous responses to the 312B engine sound (or the others) if they're >hearing what I hear. You get enough to know it's a great sound, if not for the >static (maybe not the best word), but are aggravated by the overall quality. >A bit like listening to blown speakers, but they're not. It really gets in the >way of enjoying GPL. In Sierra's tech support FAQ for GPL, they suggest >running DXSETUP from the CD and checking if the sound drivers show as >"certified" for Direct X. Did that and CL's latest (for this card) are not. >Still, I haven't seen this problem elsewhere. Hmmmmmmmmmm. >Steve B.

I had an that card briefly but took it back due to scratchy sounds just running windows. I didn't seem to happy to share pci with my rendition card. But I also get high frequency noise with GPL.

Guys, I had the same scratchy sound with an AudioPCI and the latest SBPCI drivers from Creative (the ones dated 10/2/98 on Creative's website) I reinstalled the original SBPCI drivers, and updated them with Creative's August 28th driver update, and the sound is now fine in GPL. Trips

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> Have to agree with Steve B.; I also have the Ensonic card w/ latest > drivers, and engine sound, while OK, cannot be what others are hearing. > Scratchy sound, almost reminiscent of a worn out LP. (for those who are too > young to remember, an LP(sometimes refered to as a "record") was a funny > looking flat piece of some kind of plastic, usually black, that you rotated, > put a needle on, & heard music from. As it wore out from the friction of the > needle sometimes causing little scratches, the sound deteriorated. Hence > the term "Sounds scratchy". Another technical marvel called an "8-track > player" would begin to sound(no pun intended ;-) ) the death knell for the > LP. Don't even get me started on 8-tracks, or stories about pulling little > ribbons out of tiny places while in an uncompromising position, because it > was her "favorite song", will make me forget what the h*** I was responding > to. > Uhhhhh, what the h*** WAS I responding to?????? > Brian > >> It isn't the wind noise, is it? Seriously. If it only happens when > >> driving the car and goes away if you hit F10 (arcade view), it is the > >> wind. I don't know if one can turn it off. > >>Well..you can uppack the sound.dat file and edit the wind noise down > >>to nothing. One approach, anyway. > >Nope. Ensoniq AudioPCI w/latest CL SB 64PCI drivers, DX6, & Altec ACS45's, > and > >it's from the engine sounds. I unpacked the sound.dat file and played the > wavs > >seperately. There's a gravelly static-like quality to the sound that's > >annoying at a minimum, but downright criminal with the Ferrari. I don't > know > >whether it's a hardware problem or a listener preference, but I can't > imagine > >the rapturous responses to the 312B engine sound (or the others) if they're > >hearing what I hear. You get enough to know it's a great sound, if not for > the > >static (maybe not the best word), but are aggravated by the overall > quality. > >A bit like listening to blown speakers, but they're not. It really gets in > the > >way of enjoying GPL. In Sierra's tech support FAQ for GPL, they suggest > >running DXSETUP from the CD and checking if the sound drivers show as > >"certified" for Direct X. Did that and CL's latest (for this card) are > not. > >Still, I haven't seen this problem elsewhere. Hmmmmmmmmmm. > >Steve B.

I am running a Creative Ensoniq Audio PCI with DX 6 and the drivers from the cards installation CD and have no problems. If I am not mistaken, the only thing Creative added with the SB 64 drivers was 4 channel audio support. GPL does not have 4 channel audio, so if you have the option change your sound type to standard 2 channel stereo. Just an idea. Chris "I died for you... Now why shouldn't you return the favor?" -Deathdream --Horrornews--Horrorchat--Reviews--General filth-- Mortado's Page of Filth http://www.nwlink.com/~mortado/

I'm running the game on a Monster Sound M80 and have the same problems. I called up tech support and we tried everything to fix it. after about an hour on the phone they told me they were still testing to see if the could find a fix for it and to e-mail them about it. It's nice to hear that I'm not the only one having a problem and it's not just my monster sound.

>In Sierra's tech support FAQ for GPL, they suggest >running DXSETUP from the CD and checking if the sound drivers show as >"certified" for Direct X. Did that and CL's latest (for this card) are not. >Still, I haven't seen this problem elsewhere. Hmmmmmmmmmm. That "certified drivers" business shows up every now and then in official FAQs. In my experience, it's usually more important that one gets the newest drivers if a problem occurs, be they certified or not. You said you unpacked the .wav files from the .dat file. Did they sound wrong even when you played them seperately? Then it might really be a problem of personal preferences. There is a saying in German that goes approximately: "The one person's owl is the other person's nightingale." :) -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

>You said you unpacked the .wav files from the .dat file. Did they >sound wrong even when you played them seperately? Then it might really >be a problem of personal preferences I wondered about that. I've also been fooling around with them in Cooledit, a program that's a bit over my non-audiophile head. Of interest is that the engine sounds that are the most objectionable have the most clipped samples, also. For example, the Ferrari sound consists of 114,195 samples, which Cooledit says 63,034 are clipped. Looking at the waveform diagram, the waves are truncated at the extreme amplitudes. I tried the noise reduction utility with linited success, but really don't know if that's the correct approach. Not my field, by a long shot. The BRM, by the way, doesn't have the static problem, and has a sound file with exactly 0 clipped samples. Hmmmmmm. Of note; ALL the sounds are mono, some 8bit and others 16, and the Repco, Westlake, and F2/F3 engine sounds are identical, though they're 3 different files, meaning they're independently addressable. Still looking for sonic nirvana, Steve B.

I can attest to the fact that GPL sounds like dog dung with an old timer AWE32 with the most recent drivers installed and reinstalled. I just about went nuts with the Ferrari sound. Testers, did this make the beta hit list?

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> >>You said you unpacked the .wav files from the .dat file. Did they > >>sound wrong even when you played them seperately? Then it might really > >>be a problem of personal preferences > >I wondered about that. [snip] > But then, I just read a lot of postings complaining about the sound in > GPL. Apparently, some of the newest / most expensive PCI soundcards > are affected worst. So maybe there is an objective coding/driver/ > hardware problem after all. > -- > Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

>>You said you unpacked the .wav files from the .dat file. Did they >>sound wrong even when you played them seperately? Then it might really >>be a problem of personal preferences >I wondered about that. [snip] But then, I just read a lot of postings complaining about the sound in GPL. Apparently, some of the newest / most expensive PCI soundcards are affected worst. So maybe there is an objective coding/driver/ hardware problem after all. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

>I can attest to the fact that GPL sounds like dog dung with an old timer >AWE32 with the most recent drivers installed and reinstalled. I just >about went nuts with the Ferrari sound. Testers, did this make the beta >hit list? Same here. I have an old SB AWE32 also. The crackle in the car samples is EXTREMELY pronounced if you listen with headphones. I'm not a real stickler for audio, and the problem wasn't too noticeable on my crummy little speakers. -- http://www.users.fast.net/~fusion1 http://www.off-road.com/~fusion1 (dirt bikes, rat bikes, rental car abuse...)

I am also experiencing the distortion on the engine sounds - my sound components are a Turtle Beach Montego PCI sound card (Dell OEM version) and Altech 495 USB speakers. Are there any others with this setup that are not getting the distortion? It's really a shame, because without the distortion, these engine sounds are phenomenal. Dave Ewing

I don't mind the crackling for now. My problem is that I can't enable sound on my SB AWE64 or the game crashes (not right away but soon). Looks like a DirectX or SB driver problem to me. I wanna get this baby fixed. Can't wait to race on the 'net with my cable modem :) Jason.

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> I can attest to the fact that GPL sounds like dog dung with an old timer > AWE32 with the most recent drivers installed and reinstalled. I just > about went nuts with the Ferrari sound. Testers, did this make the beta > hit list? > > But then, I just read a lot of postings complaining about the sound in > > GPL. Apparently, some of the newest / most expensive PCI soundcards > > are affected worst. So maybe there is an objective coding/driver/ > > hardware problem after all. > > -- > > Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

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YEAH HOOOO! I got the sound working in GPL. Just had to do a fresh install of Win98 (DX5) and install the Reference Drivers for the Monster1. I'm not sure what caused my old config to die, but I will find out once I reinstall everything -- except for DX6 :) I love the Ferrari sound -- ohh baby! I don't mind the slight cracking... I'm just happy it works :) Cya on the 'net -- cable modem racing time! Jason. (a.k.a. Clapper)

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> I don't mind the crackling for now. > My problem is that I can't enable sound on my SB AWE64 > or the game crashes (not right away but soon). Looks like > a DirectX or SB driver problem to me. > I wanna get this baby fixed. Can't wait to race on the 'net > with my cable modem :) > Jason. > > I can attest to the fact that GPL sounds like dog dung with an old timer > > AWE32 with the most recent drivers installed and reinstalled. I just > > about went nuts with the Ferrari sound. Testers, did this make the beta > > hit list? > > > But then, I just read a lot of postings complaining about the sound in > > > GPL. Apparently, some of the newest / most expensive PCI soundcards > > > are affected worst. So maybe there is an objective coding/driver/ > > > hardware problem after all. > > > -- > > > Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome. > -- > ----- > Jason Monds > (Remove 'no spork' when replying)

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>>I can attest to the fact that GPL sounds like dog dung with an old timer >>AWE32 with the most recent drivers installed and reinstalled. I just >>about went nuts with the Ferrari sound. Testers, did this make the beta >>hit list? >Same here. I have an old SB AWE32 also. >The crackle in the car samples is EXTREMELY pronounced if you listen >with headphones. >I'm not a real stickler for audio, and the problem wasn't too >noticeable on my crummy little speakers.

The only one that sounds raw on *my* AWE32 is the Ferrari... All the rest sound fine... ________ Eldred Pickett e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

> The only one that sounds raw on *my* AWE32 is the Ferrari... All the rest > sound fine... > ________ Thank you, then I`m not the only one then :-) I thought it might be a bad file in the "warez" version I had so it didn`t bother me too much, but when I finally got my "paid for" copy of GPL, it sounds terrible I too have an old AWE32 non PnP, I`ve kept it because it has JUMPERS (remember those :-), and don`t have to rely on Win95/98 for disabling gameports and other stuff Maybe I have to get a newer card, but all the other cars are ok, actually they sound ***y great :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy UncleGoy on TEN "Team Mirage" - www.teammirage.com

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> > The only one that sounds raw on *my* AWE32 is the Ferrari... All the rest > > sound fine... > > ________ > Thank you, then I`m not the only one then :-) > I thought it might be a bad file in the "warez" version I had so it > didn`t bother me too much, but when I finally got my "paid for" copy of > GPL, it sounds terrible > I too have an old AWE32 non PnP, I`ve kept it because it has JUMPERS > (remember those :-), and don`t have to rely on Win95/98 for disabling > gameports and other stuff > Maybe I have to get a newer card, but all the other cars are ok, > actually they sound ***y great :-)

I still keep my trusty jumpered SB 16 on hand, but lately I've been using the Soundblaster Live! Value card, and the sound is fantastic. The analog gameport on the Live! is pretty sweet too... I'm still not gonna let the SB16 leave my posession, but I don't know if it'll ever see the inside of one of my PC's again... Trips