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GPL-video card questions

5 posts by 5 people · 09 Oct 1998 - 19 Oct 1998

drbo.. 09 Oct 1998#426032
PII-266, Intel 440BX motherboard with onboard Crystal PCI sound, 64 meg RAM. Disappoining framerates in GPL with my Canopus Rendition (1000) board, latest drivers. I read that the Thriller is better if you have less than a PII. I read that AGP is only marginally better than PCI and that the Thriller implementation of AGP is pretty rudimentary. Assume I care only about Papyrus sims. Question 1: Could a Thriller-8 give less performance than a Voodoo 2-12? Question 2: Could a Thriller-8 AGP give less performance than a Thriller-8 PCI? About to buy one, don't want to make a mistake. bob
% PII-266, Intel 440BX motherboard with onboard Crystal PCI sound, 64 % meg RAM. Disappoining framerates in GPL with my Canopus Rendition % (1000) board, latest drivers. % I read that the Thriller is better if you have less than a PII. I % read that AGP is only marginally better than PCI and that the Thriller % implementation of AGP is pretty rudimentary. Actually it is also tied to raw CPU horsepower. Most of the educated posts here, seem to indicate the Thriller will beat the Voodoo2 until you start reaching the PII-300 stage (where they seem to be neck-n-neck depending on resolution). % Assume I care only about Papyrus sims. % Question 1: Could a Thriller-8 give less performance than a Voodoo % 2-12? Could, but I doubt that it will in your current setup. % Question 2: Could a Thriller-8 AGP give less performance than a % Thriller-8 PCI? Not less, but maybe marginally better, but sometimes less (depending on the application and how it utilizes the AGP board. The only real good thing about AGP is missing from the Thriller (since it is v1.0 and doesn't support offloading texture to memory). Well there is one good thing about AGP, it will keep free a PCI slot on your board. % About to buy one, don't want to make a mistake. I think Genoa has a similar card for a little less, and I have heard good results with it. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Earl Setse 18 Oct 1998#428571
WAIT, WAIT!! I am looking into a new computer also, and was about to go ahead and get the Thriller AGP 8 MB card. THEN, I saw the following message on the TEN. NASCAR newsgroup. I don't keep up on RAS these days, so I'm not sure if this has been posted here.. hmmm, maybe I'd better put it up just in case. Based on this message, I decided to go with the Diamond Stealth for now and maybe upgrade to the next gen Rendition later. The message was: Guys, I just wanted to help you all out and let you know that you can get a Diamond Stealth II 4MB PCI S220 Rendition 2200 for 7.95 + shipping. Go to Buycomp.com.......... http://www.buycomp.com/bc/noframes/product.asp?sku=628141&mscssid=883... and purchase it for 37.95, very very cheap. (Actually was 34.95 for me!) Then go to Diamond's site...... http://www.diamondmm.com/products/promotions/rebates/ and get the 30 dollar rebate for the card. It is good till Dec 31st 1998. There you have it, your Rendition 2200 card for 7.95+ shipping. Considering that they have the Thriller 3D, equivilant, for 71 dollars and no rebate I'd buy it if I needed a better video card. Gene
Gollum 18 Oct 1998#428572
The question is, is the Stealth's 4MB of memory on the card enough? Also, remember that the Stealth uses the 2100 Rendition chip, not the 2200. Earl Setser wrote
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:06:51 -0600, Earl Setser
Quoted text (7 lines)>WAIT, WAIT!! I am looking into a new computer also, and was about to >go ahead and get the Thriller AGP 8 MB card. THEN, I saw the following >message on the TEN. NASCAR newsgroup. I don't keep up on RAS these >days, so I'm not sure if this has been posted here.. hmmm, maybe I'd >better put it up just in case. Based on this message, I decided to go >with the Diamond Stealth for now and maybe upgrade to the next gen >Rendition later. The message was:
The bad news is: 1) That Diamond Stealth S220 is a decent card (hey, for <$10 you can't go wrong, right?). However, its a 4meg card, based on the V2100 chip. Better than nothing, but those two points make it inferior to the Thriller (for GPL). 2) From what I've seen, the next generation of Rendition (V3300) will not support Speedy3D, so no ICR2 (buggy as in may be in V2x00) or current N2 (future Papyrus releases: N1999, N3, etc., will not need/use Speedy3D). Me, I think I'll go with the 8meg Thriller soon (got a V1000 now). NAR Northeast Regional Contest Board site - points and more...

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