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requesting ideal GPL hype settings

21 posts by 8 people · 17 Feb 2004 15:58 UTC - 21 Feb 2004 11:09 UTC

Adjusting GPL AI speed for fair offline races

Rich asked for GPL settings that make offline AI racing fair. Replies said the defaults were fair and urged practice, while others explained that making player.sts read-only stops the AI improving with you and that AI-Tweak can speed them up. The thread became a joke when AOL repeated Eldred's reply several times.

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Rich 17 Feb 2004 15:58 UTC#43096
Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave offline driving as competitively fair with AI? I saw the driver configuration settings but I'm unsure what values have to be changed. Thanks for any info! :-)
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:58:29 GMT, "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave offline driving as >competitively fair with AI? >I saw the driver configuration settings but I'm unsure what values have to >be changed. Thanks for any info! :-) The default setting is IMO fair. What you're asking for is an UNFAIR setting, so you easily can win your races.... <g> Practice, man! Cheers! Remco
Remco Moedt wrote: > The default setting is IMO fair. What you're asking for is an UNFAIR > setting, so you easily can win your races.... <g> > > Practice, man! Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a "competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) -Dirt-
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:00:41 GMT, Chris Cavin <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>Remco Moedt wrote: > >> The default setting is IMO fair. What you're asking for is an UNFAIR >> setting, so you easily can win your races.... <g> >> >> Practice, man! > > >Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :)
Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM then, I would say... <g> Cheers! Remco
"Rich" wrote... > Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave > offline driving as competitively fair with AI? > I saw the driver configuration settings but I'm > unsure what values have to be changed. Thanks for > any info! :-) You do realise your question is akin to "how much pepper should go in a scrambled egg?", don't you? Jan. =---
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:26:07 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>"Rich" wrote... >> Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave >> offline driving as competitively fair with AI? >> I saw the driver configuration settings but I'm >> unsure what values have to be changed. Thanks for >> any info! :-) > >You do realise your question is akin to "how much pepper should go in a >scrambled egg?", don't you?
1/8 tsp :^) > >Jan. >=--- >
"Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:58:29 GMT, "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave offline driving as > >competitively fair with AI? > >I saw the driver configuration settings but I'm unsure what values haveto
Quoted text (12 lines)> >be changed. Thanks for any info! :-) > > The default setting is IMO fair. What you're asking for is an UNFAIR > setting, so you easily can win your races.... <g> > > Practice, man! > > > Cheers! > > > Remco
Pardon my ignorance...I thought those values affected GPL's kamikaze AI only and not online racing. I've never even raced online yet! Then could someone tell me if there is a way to slow the AI opponents down? I mean, these guys have outstanding, unbelievable driving skills, not to mention a setup that rivals modern day F1. I try and keep up to them going into Riems corners and my foot is to the floor with the ass end of the car out of the groove 10 degrees...and J. Clark is pulling away from me all the while sticking to the road like a slot car. I may not be the best driver in the world, but any setup for the coventry and ferrari that I drive is no match for these seemingly unrealistic default opponents. And someone said they want to speed them up to be more competitive??? That's gotta be BS.
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:23:09 GMT, "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)> >"Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:58:29 GMT, "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave offline driving as >> >competitively fair with AI? >> >I saw the driver configuration settings but I'm unsure what values have >to >> >be changed. Thanks for any info! :-) >> >> The default setting is IMO fair. What you're asking for is an UNFAIR >> setting, so you easily can win your races.... <g> >> >> Practice, man! > >Pardon my ignorance...I thought those values affected GPL's kamikaze AI only >and not online racing.
You're right.
Quoted text (12 lines)>I've never even raced online yet! >Then could someone tell me if there is a way to slow the AI opponents down? >I mean, these guys have outstanding, unbelievable driving skills, not to >mention a setup that rivals modern day F1. >I try and keep up to them going into Riems corners and my foot is to the >floor with the ass end of the car out of the groove 10 degrees...and J. >Clark is pulling away from me all the while sticking to the road like a slot >car. I may not be the best driver in the world, but any setup for the >coventry and ferrari that I drive is no match for these seemingly >unrealistic default opponents. >And someone said they want to speed them up to be more competitive??? That's >gotta be BS.
When I played GPL in 1998, it took me months to win a race, even on the easiest level. However, I didn't finish last, most of the time I was around the 10th place. I really had to work for it, and I was very happy when I finally won. The fast guys were indeed too fast for me during the first months, but the slower guys were beatable. Working my way up in the field is still one of the prettiest memories I've regarding simracing. I also remember a certain mr Surtees. That bugger really taugth me to brake, especially before the Parabolica at Monza. Countless, the times he rearended me. I'm still a bit nervous when I see a white car in my mirrors.... <g> However, if you still want to cut corners, and to slow the AI down, you need AI Tweaker, written by Kari Ikonen. (Never understood why _he_ needed it, the bugger was fast as Hell). You can get it here: http://www.theuspits.com/sims/gpl/files/aitw103.zip You might need vbrun30.dll to use it. Have fun! Cheers! Remco
Woodie 83 18 Feb 2004 12:31 UTC↳ reply to Rich#43063
In article <FSqYb.19548$Hy3.14764@edtnps89>, "Rich" <[email hidden]> writes: >Can anyone paste some hype settings here that leave offline driving as >competitively fair with AI? The ideal setting for me is to set the file to "read only" so that they don't hype and stay at the out-of-the-box settings. Works pretty well for the original tracks, but add on tracks are all over the place. Don McCorkle
In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> writes: >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM >then, I would say... <g> Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then make the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. If you want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> writes: >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM >then, I would say... <g> Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then make the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. If you want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> writes: >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM >then, I would say... <g> Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then make the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. If you want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> writes: >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM >then, I would say... <g> Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then make the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. If you want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> writes: >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM >then, I would say... <g> Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then make the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. If you want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt <[email hidden]> writes: >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM >then, I would say... <g> Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then make the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. If you want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
Rich 19 Feb 2004 05:08 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#43037
Eldred, I heard ya the first time! ;-) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, Remco Moedt > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >>Interesting. I've found I have to make the AI *FASTER* to have a > >>"competitively fair" race, and interpreted his comment as such. :) > > > > > >Heck, you're right, the OP could mean that aswell! Well, get the BRM > >then, I would say... <g> > > Ok, then I'd give two options. If the OP wants to keep the AI slow, then
make > the player.sts file read-only. Then the AI won't improve as you do. Ifyou
Quoted text (14 lines)> want to speed up the AI, find the AI-Tweak program... > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East
EldredP 19 Feb 2004 17:50 UTC↳ reply to Rich#42868
>Eldred, I heard ya the first time! ;-) > fucking AOL... :-( Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, EldredP <[email hidden]> writes >>Eldred, I heard ya the first time! ;-) >> > >fucking AOL... :-( > I reckon you'll be top of the posters for this month, mate. :) -- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -25.01
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >>Eldred, I heard ya the first time! ;-) >> > >fucking AOL... :-( > Hah! AOL burped on my end too and didn't mark anything read yesterday. I saw your posts six times yesterday, and then six times again today. Don McCorkle
>Hah! AOL burped on my end too and didn't mark anything read yesterday. I >saw >your posts six times yesterday, and then six times again today. Whew - I was seeing the same posts today as well...thought something was screwed on my machine... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 68 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >>Eldred, I heard ya the first time! ;-) >> > >fucking AOL... :-( > Hah! AOL burped on my end too and didn't mark anything read yesterday. I saw your posts six times yesterday, and then six times again today. Don McCorkle

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