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GPL woes-Forced to move from Cyrix :)

13 posts by 7 people · 29 Nov 1998 - 03 Dec 1998

WildOreg 29 Nov 1998#437216
Alright. The ineveitable has finally happened. Since I enjoy GP2 and have now purchased GPL, the life expentancy of the original Cyrix P-166+ in my machine is extremely short... Without *** the horse too much, what recommendations can be made on a Pentium chip, 3Dfx card and other peripheral necessities (at reasonable expense) to get *up to speed* ? I don't mind admitting that I am not all that versed on this stuff, so give me the *plain english* versions (i.e. feature=benefit). Many thanks in advance. Scott........................
Mark 29 Nov 1998#437217
Scott, you need a Pentium-II of some sort -- 300 or better -- and if you're on a budget a 3dfx Banshee video card of some brand. If you're not on a budget get a Riva TNT video card of some brand _and_ a Voodoo 2 card of some brand. The P-II will necessitate an ATX motherboard, which will necessitate a new case (sorry ;-) All your other stuff should be transferrable. You're looking at roughly $500 on the budget route. Plus $3.95 for the Computer Shopper <g>. Rgds 'n Good Luck Mark R.
Ian Wright 29 Nov 1998#437218
With my 16MB Voodoo Banshee card (99 here) I get the same frame rate at 1024x768 as I do in 640x480, and I only have a P166, also get the same frame rate with all textures on as when they are off (around 25 fps) but I'm still going to buy a 400MHz brain for my PC 'cos I want it ALL!
john moore 29 Nov 1998#437219
My suggestion would be an Abit bh6 motherboard, Intel Celeron300A, 64meg ram. You will also need a new case, and more ram won't play better but you get longer replays. Take it to a local dealer and pay them $50 to assemble the system. Run it at 300 for a while then up the bus speed in steps until you hit 100 which gives you a 450cpu! This is easily done via a "softmenu" which you access during bootup and can change easily anytime. This will run you under$500, check pricewatch.com for the best deals. This combo is run by many GPL and longtime simdrivers. JM
Quoted text (14 lines)> Alright. The ineveitable has finally happened. Since I enjoy GP2 and have now > purchased GPL, the life expentancy of the original Cyrix P-166+ in my machine > is extremely short... > Without *** the horse too much, what recommendations can be made on a > Pentium chip, 3Dfx card and other peripheral necessities (at reasonable > expense) to get *up to speed* ? > I don't mind admitting that I am not all that versed on this stuff, so give me > the *plain english* versions (i.e. feature=benefit). > Many thanks in advance. > Scott........................
EldredP 29 Nov 1998#437220
>With my 16MB Voodoo Banshee card (99 here) I get the same frame rate at >1024x768 >as I do in 640x480, and I only have a P166, also get the same frame rate with >all >textures on as when they are off (around 25 fps) but I'm still going to buy a >400MHz brain for my PC 'cos I want it ALL! Really? I thought a P166 wouldn't have a CHANCE of running it. The video card makes more of a difference than I *thought*. eldred
Ian Wright 29 Nov 1998#437221
Yes, but it seems to make a difference only in 3Dfx games, although it kicks the
Mark 29 Nov 1998#437222
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:41:35 +0000, Ian Wright >> Really? I thought a P166 wouldn't have a CHANCE of running it. The video card >> makes more of a difference than I *thought*. >> eldred >Yes, but it seems to make a difference only in 3Dfx games, although it kicks the GP2 uses no 3d accelleration whatsoever... the only way to kick up frame rate on it is brute CPU power. Rgds, Mark R.
EldredP 30 Nov 1998#437439
(Mark R.) writes:
Quoted text (19 lines)>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:41:35 +0000, Ian Wright >>> Really? I thought a P166 wouldn't have a CHANCE of running it. The video >card >>> makes more of a difference than I *thought*. >>> eldred >>Yes, but it seems to make a difference only in 3Dfx games, although it kicks >the >speed. >GP2 uses no 3d accelleration whatsoever... the only way to kick >up frame rate on it is brute CPU power. >Rgds, >Mark R.
...and I haven't re-loaded GP2 on my new K6-2 350 computer yet...I'll have to try it. :) Eldred
Mark 30 Nov 1998#437440
Quoted text (26 lines)>(Mark R.) writes: >>On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:41:35 +0000, Ian Wright >>>> Really? I thought a P166 wouldn't have a CHANCE of running it. The video >>card >>>> makes more of a difference than I *thought*. >>>> eldred >>>Yes, but it seems to make a difference only in 3Dfx games, although it kicks >>the >>speed. >>GP2 uses no 3d accelleration whatsoever... the only way to kick >>up frame rate on it is brute CPU power. >>Rgds, >>Mark R. >...and I haven't re-loaded GP2 on my new K6-2 350 computer yet...I'll have to >try it. :) >Eldred
Eldred, it's pretty awesome on my Celeron 450A.... I can _finally_ turn everything on <g>. I'd give my left arm (well, maybe my left pinky finger) for some kind of IPX or TCP/IP add-on. Rgds, Mark R.
Bart Westra 30 Nov 1998#437441
Quoted text (7 lines)>Eldred, it's pretty awesome on my Celeron 450A.... I can >_finally_ turn everything on <g>. I'd give my left arm (well, >maybe my left pinky finger) for some kind of IPX or TCP/IP >add-on. >Rgds, >Mark R.
Look here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsdi/gp2lap/ . Two player mode only. You may keep your finger ;-) Bart Westra
Ian Wright 03 Dec 1998#438000
Woohoo! I just got rid of my P166 and got a K6-2 350 - GPL looks Awsome! 36fps with all detail in 1024x768 in training... I can at last play GP2 with all detail and it makes so much difference! Happy happy happy etc.
EldredP 03 Dec 1998#438001
Quoted text (19 lines)>> >...and I haven't re-loaded GP2 on my new K6-2 350 computer yet...I'll have >to >> >try it. :) >> >Eldred >> Eldred, it's pretty awesome on my Celeron 450A.... I can >> _finally_ turn everything on <g>. I'd give my left arm (well, >> maybe my left pinky finger) for some kind of IPX or TCP/IP >> add-on. >> Rgds, >> Mark R. >Woohoo! I just got rid of my P166 and got a K6-2 350 - GPL looks Awsome! >36fps >with all detail in 1024x768 in training... I can at last play GP2 with all >detail >and it makes so much difference! Happy happy happy etc.
Congrats! ...I really MUST reload this program myself...... :) Eldred
Mark R. wrote : It is possible to play GP2 over a network, I think they've even done it over the internet (though it still is 2 player ofcourse). The utility used is GP2LAP, which has been developped for the Little Formula Racing Series (LFRS, http://www.lfrs.com/ ,http://www.lfrs.com/gp2lap.html ). It's main purpose is adding anti-cheating info to hotlap and race files, but they've added network support to it (work in progress). I haven't tried the network support myself, so I'm not really sure about the results. -- Ren van Lobberegt, The Netherlands. Cheetah Racing : http://renevanl.www.cistron.nl/cheetah/index_nl.html Personal site : http://www.toptown.com/INNERCIRCLE/1846/ AMCA webmaster : http://www.amcaracing.nl/

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