OT GPL Real Lotus 49 Question

All, I just got a model of the Lotus 49 from Exoto and am wondering about the pipe that extends down the outside of the left side of the body. It appears to be a pipe running I presume from the engine to the radiator in front. It looks strange to see a pipe on the outside but I suppose that since it is HOT you would'nt want it running next to the driver! Did the cooled water then return to the engine via a pipe on the inside of the chassis? Thanks. I think I have learned more about GP racing since I got GPL than I knew in my previous 20 years of interest! Jeff Haas

How much was that? I've been looking for an diecast Eagle (or even a kit), but I can't find anything. Found a Ferrari, a Lotus, and a Brabham, but nothing else. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS Director http://members.home.net/jms1/igps.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

>How much was that? I've been looking for an diecast Eagle (or even a >kit), but I can't find anything. Found a Ferrari, a Lotus, and a >Brabham, but nothing else. Well I can't speak for Jeff, but the place I got mine from (Motorsport Collector in Chicago) now charges $120. They used to be $90, but Exoto upped their prices to the retailers toward the end of last year. BTW - If you like sportscars the Exoto Cobra Daytona coupes are some of the nicest die casts I have ever seen. -Bill -- Bill Mette | "A person is smart. People are dumb." MCSNet, Chicago | - K MiB

>How much was that? I've been looking for an diecast Eagle (or even a >kit), but I can't find anything. Found a Ferrari, a Lotus, and a >Brabham, but nothing else. John, It was $100 (from an Ad in the January Car and Driver) .. but like Steve Smith said in the GPL book, it does look cool sitting on top of the monitor. I will admit to having had my fill of Loti, though. I couldn't find an Eagle listed at http://www.ewacars.com/index.html either. I've bought some smaller 1/43 scale modern F1 cars from them. Maybe we can talk www.exoto.com into making the grid of 1967. They also make a Cobra Daytona which I think you are fond of (maybe just the roadster). Happy hunting. Jeff Haas

That pipe is indeed the water return pipe. The underside of the tub was stepped to form pipeways on both sides for oil and water feed to the engine,so all pipes were outside the main tub. -- Andrew Thatcher www.f1onehitwonders.ndirect.co.uk

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> >I just got a model of the Lotus 49 from Exoto and am wondering about > >the pipe that extends down the outside of the left side of the body. > >It appears to be a pipe running I presume from the engine to the > >radiator in front. It looks strange to see a pipe on the outside but I > That pipe is indeed the water return pipe. The underside of the tub was > stepped to form pipeways on both sides for oil and water feed to the > engine,so all pipes were outside the main tub.

Additional trivia: I recall that this caused a problem with the BRM(?) at Watkins Glen in the mid-1960's. On this car, the external water pipe cut right across the center of the white circle (background for the car number). It made it very difficult for Timing and Scoring to tell the difference between the two team cars (numbers 8 & 9 if memory serves), since T & S were looking down from the tower (the pipe cast a shadow). The numbers were changed/moved (forget how) before the race, after a little "conference" in the garage.