SB Live + MSFF + GPL?

Anybody had any (or heard of any) experience with GPL, SoundBlaster Live & MS ForceFeedback Wheel. Thinking of replacing my SB Awe64 with an SB Live to expunge yet another resource clogging ISA device. Can I expect any improvements or differences (aside from my wallet being $100 lighter:)? Thanks Randy

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> Anybody had any (or heard of any) experience with GPL, SoundBlaster > Live > & MS ForceFeedback Wheel. > Thinking of replacing my SB Awe64 with an SB Live to expunge yet > another > resource clogging ISA device. > Can I expect any improvements or differences (aside from my wallet > being > $100 lighter:)?

A friend of mine has just installed the MS FFwheel and the SBLive card and the wheel refuses to work? He has no joystick gameport option in his control panel, devices section? (he is using win98) he is also using a Celery on an Abit m/b. I've run out of ideas and we cannot get it working? (We have renewed the sb drivers, re-installed the sb card, and even swapped slots, but still the wheel gets a "not detected" message? Anyone else got any ideas? 8-) *Peter* #:-)

>Anybody had any (or heard of any) experience with GPL, SoundBlaster Live >& MS ForceFeedback Wheel. I have this combo and it works fine. I moved up from a SBAWE32 PnP. GPL has no FF, though :( ~dx -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com/ The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! -----------== Over 66,000 Groups, Plus a Dedicated Binaries Server ==----------

Hi there I gained 2 fps after installing the SB-Live and enjoy an much better sound ( my old soundcard was an SB16 ) / pII 300 64MB, Hercules Thriller Rendition 8MB The MS-Wheel works fine with the SB-Live, maybe a bit more precise, but that can be just imagination... I don't like the Racing-enviroment effects the SBLive provides in GPL altough the 3d-sound w/o Effects is great )but in Nascar99 with an new sound downloaded somewhere they are great... -- Greetings Staabi Meine Grand Prix Legends Homepage: http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~mstab/

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> Anybody had any (or heard of any) experience with GPL, SoundBlaster Live > & MS ForceFeedback Wheel. > Thinking of replacing my SB Awe64 with an SB Live to expunge yet another > resource clogging ISA device. > Can I expect any improvements or differences (aside from my wallet being > $100 lighter:)?

I have that same combination, and I never had a better wheel, soundcard or racing sim... hmm, sums it up nicely, doesn't it? And it's worth it, although it should cost more than $100? l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

>A friend of mine has just installed the MS FFwheel and the SBLive card >and the wheel refuses to work? >He has no joystick gameport option in his control panel, devices >section? (he is using win98) he is also using a Celery on an Abit m/b. I had the same problem with no gameport showing in the control panel. The solution was to add new hardware manually and select "audio, video, game controller/Microsoft/gameport joystick" or something. The soundcard was detected correctly, but the gameport on it wasn't. Weird. Maybe this helps. [posted & mailed] -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

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>> Anybody had any (or heard of any) experience with GPL, SoundBlaster Live >> & MS ForceFeedback Wheel. >> Thinking of replacing my SB Awe64 with an SB Live to expunge yet another >> resource clogging ISA device. >> Can I expect any improvements or differences (aside from my wallet being >> $100 lighter:)? >I have that same combination, and I never had a better wheel, soundcard or >racing sim... hmm, sums it up nicely, doesn't it? And it's worth it, although >it should cost more than $100?

The SBLive value bulk is in that ballpark (here, at least). What are opinions on the SBLive value, as opposed to the full product? I'm not a musician, so I think I can live without those newfangled digital input options. Are there other (more inportant for sim racing) features missing from the Value edition. And how fares the SBLive in GPL? How about that static noise one hears so much about? My old trusty SB16 does not show those defects, but it's ISA and therefore subject to being replaced soon. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

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> >> Anybody had any (or heard of any) experience with GPL, SoundBlaster Live > >> & MS ForceFeedback Wheel. > >> Thinking of replacing my SB Awe64 with an SB Live to expunge yet another > >> resource clogging ISA device. > >> Can I expect any improvements or differences (aside from my wallet being > >> $100 lighter:)? > >I have that same combination, and I never had a better wheel, soundcard or > >racing sim... hmm, sums it up nicely, doesn't it? And it's worth it, although > >it should cost more than $100? > The SBLive value bulk is in that ballpark (here, at least). What are

Uff, missread his posting, thought he would get all three toys for $100... I think the boards are identical, the Value just missing some software for musicians and an aditional connector panel (?). I got the SB Live for its 4 speaker capability and because my SB128 screwed up GPL! Actually I hear some little pops with the fictional cars, but that could be the add-on sounds from the net. I have to try the original sounds sometime... l8er ronny -- How to get rid of censorship in German game releases <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm> |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Hi Wolfgang, I've got a SB Live Value. I still have static, but otherwise I like it over my old Montego Turtle Beach. I don't like the preset sounds they have for racing, but the no effects stereo are good. BTW they just released a patch so you can use a surround sound reciever to hear the sounds. That's what I do and it sounds good. Of course your opinion may be different. Also Baldur's Gate supports the SB Live audio and sounds great. "ZZ" -- Busch Carpentry "Plans?" ---------------- Busch Motorsports "Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward"

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>> >I have that same combination, and I never had a better wheel, soundcard or >> >racing sim... hmm, sums it up nicely, doesn't it? And it's worth it, although >> >it should cost more than $100? >> The SBLive value bulk is in that ballpark (here, at least). What are >Uff, missread his posting, thought he would get all three toys for $100...

That would be quite a deal, wouldn't it? :) That's what I understood from the info on the various SB websites, too. But it's not stated explicitly. One more question: what about DOS / SB16 compatibility? The website says "we have achieved almost 100% SB16 compatibility" which my built-in sales talk analyzer translates into "the thing probably won't work with old software." ;) Will the card work with, say, ICR2 or GP2? Thanks everybody for answering. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

I have the Value edition (And I am a musician). What it lacks of importance is the digital in/out header card. All the environmental audio/3D stuff is there. There may be some software not included in the bundle, but it would be specific to the digital processing stuff and wouldn't matter to a gamer. There is more than enough configuration to play with as it is. I have yet to have a problem with anything I threw at it, including old DOS games galore. I have used it with ICR2 (dos version) without difficulty, but that was in a windowed session in side Win98. It loads this in the autoexec.bat: C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM It is an SB16 emulator. It reports on the screen when you are booting up. As far as complete compatability, I couldn't say, but I can say I have gotten sound in everything I have tried to run. I have an ancient DOS arkanoid clone called "Turoid", and it sounds completely different and LOTS better than it ever did with an SB16 or an SBAWE32. One neat thing is the slider in one of the SBLive's control panels that lets you specify maximum number of WAV sounds heard. The slider goes up to 32. That way, when you slide the GPL slider up to 16, you know you aren't exceeding your sound card's abilities. Hope this helps someone ~daxe "religion is remedial spirituality" -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com/ The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! -----------== Over 66,000 Groups, Plus a Dedicated Binaries Server ==----------