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GPL or Viper?

4 posts by 3 people · 11 Jan 1999 - 12 Jan 1999

beagl 11 Jan 1999#444767
Hi there, I just got myself a nice new Voodoo 2 card and now I can finally get some modern games. Both GPL and Viper sound attractive. I guess what I need to know, is whether the following system is good enough to run either or both of them satisfactorily: - Pentium Pro 200 - 64MB RAM - Matrox Millenium - Voodoo 2 - Windows 98 I'm happy turning off some graphical features in exchange for a decent frame rate (25-30fps) that doesn't degrade. 640*480 is also quite acceptable to me although I'd prefer 800*600. Oh yes, in terms of which game I'd prefer, the games I have played and enjoyed the most are F1GP (Amiga), Indy 500 (Amiga), Revs (BBC), Stunt Car Racer (Amiga), Gran Turismo (PSX), NFS SE (PC), NFSIII (PSX). Oh yes, and my all time favourite - Wipeout on the Playstation. Please note - criticising my choice of Wipeout in a sim group may lead to a larger and longer flame war than you'd expect. Not that I'm fanatical about it. Honest. :-) (I'd like to play them at work too on my dual PII 400 with 256MB and a G200, but I've only got NT installed.) -- Thomas Beagle
Lutrell 11 Jan 1999#444768
GPL and Viper have some of the best realistic physics and feel. GPL takes a long time to get use to and can be frustrating, but its the most realistic driving sim and lets you drive the "real" cars and tracks of 1967 GP. Viper has adjustments to make it a lot easier to drive, it has made up courses that are more like roads than race tracks. From the games you mentioned I would get Viper. Also you should really think about getting a steering controller, as it really adds to the driving effect. I believe you will get much better frame rate with Viper. Lutrell
Quoted text (31 lines)>Hi there, >I just got myself a nice new Voodoo 2 card and now I can finally get >some modern games. Both GPL and Viper sound attractive. I guess what I >need to know, is whether the following system is good enough to run >either or both of them satisfactorily: >- Pentium Pro 200 >- 64MB RAM >- Matrox Millenium >- Voodoo 2 >- Windows 98 >I'm happy turning off some graphical features in exchange for a decent >frame rate (25-30fps) that doesn't degrade. 640*480 is also quite >acceptable to me although I'd prefer 800*600. >Oh yes, in terms of which game I'd prefer, the games I have played and >enjoyed the most are F1GP (Amiga), Indy 500 (Amiga), Revs (BBC), Stunt >Car Racer (Amiga), Gran Turismo (PSX), NFS SE (PC), NFSIII (PSX). Oh >yes, and my all time favourite - Wipeout on the Playstation. >Please note - criticising my choice of Wipeout in a sim group may lead >to a larger and longer flame war than you'd expect. Not that I'm >fanatical about it. Honest. :-) >(I'd like to play them at work too on my dual PII 400 with 256MB and a >G200, but I've only got NT installed.) >-- >Thomas Beagle
b> I just got myself a nice new Voodoo 2 card and now I can finally get b> some modern games. Both GPL and Viper sound attractive. I guess what I b> need to know, is whether the following system is good enough to run b> either or both of them satisfactorily: Get GPL - it's the only way to be satisfied by a sim ;-) Honestly: Viper isn't bad at all but there's not ONE point where it beats GPL. On the other side: after looking at your systemconfiguration and the games you played before...Viper will eventually be better. Why don't get both demos and experience the difference ! Also, man mailt sich... .\\atze *home* : http://www.buesing.de
beagl 12 Jan 1999#444937
beagle wrote Thanks for the feedback guys. I think it'll have to be GPL - while some of you have commented on my apparent liking for games that aren't hard core sims, I think I should have pointed out that I don't always play those games like everyone else. I'm much more interested in lap times than I am in racing other drivers. In particular, I *love* games with a very long learning curve and a good physics model. This is why I like Wipeout on the PSX so much. Sure, it's nor a real racing car game (the lack of wheels on the vehicles gives it away!) but it's very hard to master - and even after playing it for a couple of years, beating both leagues and qualifying to be on the 'best lap' charts on the Internet, I find that I'm still getting better at it. Speaking of lap times, as far as I know I had one of the best lap times on EA's Indy 500 ever recorded (over 240mph speed). I got as far as setting the car up so that the engine blew up through being over-revved about half a lap after the hot one. ;-) That took me quite a long time to achieve and I don't think I ever actually bothered trying to finish a race the whole time I had it (unlike my friend who did the whole 200 lap race a number of times). Sounds like GPL will be just the ticket - and I guess I'll have to get a better controller. I wish the NegCon was available for the PC as, IMO, it's better than any home steering wheel I've tried. -- Thomas Beagle

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