GP2 vs. the rest

I think GP2 still feels 10 times as much as driving a car than all the super 3d directx ubisoft johnny herbert etc. etc. that's coming out. Or is the game just too easy? (too much driving aid or so) Is the GP3 plan definitely dead yet. I haven't been in this group for ages. It used to be nearly only about GP2 when it came out once. Hans

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> I think GP2 still feels 10 times as much as driving a car than all the > super 3d directx ubisoft johnny herbert etc. etc. that's coming out. > Or is the game just too easy? (too much driving aid or so) > Is the GP3 plan definitely dead yet. I haven't been in this group for > ages. It used to be nearly only about GP2 when it came out once. > Hans

Well, I used to be an avid GP2 user.... and I agree with you about the driving 'feel', it is still the best around for modern/winged F1, but the way to go now is GPL for the most realistic driving experience! Micropose/Geoff Crammond have lost it..... I think if GP3 hit the streets now, it would have to be very special indeed to take out GPL as the No.1 sim! Papy's advance information and demo before the release of GPL is a fine example of how to generate interest amongst the race sim fraternity..... I can only imagine that if there is going to be a GP3 and Micropose still hold the marketing rights, then there marketing people must be living at the bottom of a well! Where are they? "GEOFF CRAMMOND, COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK!" Dave Hawnt (UK)

> Well, I used to be an avid GP2 user.... <Snip> I can only imagine that if there is going to be a GP3 and Dave, Have to agree, GP3 would have to be something to knock GPL off its pedestal, now if we could only convince Papy to do a modern era GPL :)! I really hope we will eventually see a good modern F1 sim, Ubi just cant seem to get it right no matter how hard they try :(. Trev

After the total insanity that happened in gp2 when the game was reviewed 5 months before it came out I can understand Geoff wants to "finish" the dam game this time before announcing it! I think comparing it to gpl doesnt work, geoff and papy have co-existed for a long time because they have a different style. Papy say if you dont have skill and a wheel stiff shit! while the gp series has always been more accesable while still hard with all the help off. I cant imagine gp3 not rocking!

snip > Have to agree, GP3 would have to be something to knock GPL off its > pedestal, now if we could only convince Papy to do a modern era GPL :)! > I really hope we will eventually see a good modern F1 sim, Ubi just cant > seem to get it right no matter how hard they try :(. Oh no, there is already an excellent modern F1 sim (UbiSoft), what I WANT from Papy is CART using the GPL engine. Although I want N3 as well, I'm disappointed (but can understand) their priorities... l8er ronny -- Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

GP2 is an outstanding simulator. Right up there with N2 as far as I'm concerned... -Larry > I think GP2 still feels 10 times as much as driving a car than all the > super 3d directx ubisoft johnny herbert etc. etc. that's coming out. > Or is the game just too easy? (too much driving aid or so)

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> > Well, I used to be an avid GP2 user.... > <Snip> > I can only imagine that if there is going to be a GP3 and > > Micropose still hold the marketing rights, then there marketing people > > must be living at the bottom of a well! Where are they? > > "GEOFF CRAMMOND, COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK!" > > Dave Hawnt (UK) > Dave, > Have to agree, GP3 would have to be something to knock GPL off its > pedestal, now if we could only convince Papy to do a modern era GPL :)! > I really hope we will eventually see a good modern F1 sim, Ubi just cant > seem to get it right no matter how hard they try :(. > Trev

Yes I agree. I finally broke down and got F1RS out of the bargain bin for $10.00. It doesn't compare to the driving model of GP2 at all, eye candy yes, drive model Hell No. Looking for Gp3

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> > > Well, I used to be an avid GP2 user.... > > <Snip> > > I can only imagine that if there is going to be a GP3 and > > > Micropose still hold the marketing rights, then there marketing people > > > must be living at the bottom of a well! Where are they? > > > "GEOFF CRAMMOND, COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK!" > > > Dave Hawnt (UK) > > Dave, > > Have to agree, GP3 would have to be something to knock GPL off its > > pedestal, now if we could only convince Papy to do a modern era GPL :)! > > I really hope we will eventually see a good modern F1 sim, Ubi just cant > > seem to get it right no matter how hard they try :(. > > Trev > Yes I agree. I finally broke down and got F1RS out of the bargain bin for > $10.00. It doesn't compare to the driving model of GP2 at all, eye candy > yes, drive model Hell No. > Looking for Gp3

You have to wait for that till August,..according to Microprose Germany!!! -- Greetings :)RuuD? +------------------------------+ WINDOWS 2000 Redmond, WA, U.S.A. - Microsoft announced that the official release date for the new operating system "Windows 2000" will be delayed until the second quarter of 1901.

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:54:15 +0100, Ronald Stoehr >Oh no, there is already an excellent modern F1 sim (UbiSoft), what I >WANT >from Papy is CART using the GPL engine. Although I want N3 as well, >I'm disappointed (but can understand) their priorities... IMHO it's time for a NASCAR sim again. I'm surprised how much fun I have driving the ovals of Dayton and Bemij*** in Viper Racing, and I'd love to do that in huge field of cars - but pleease Papy, don't forget FF wheel owners. On the other hand, I'd like a new CART sim from Papy too, ICR2 was a masterpiece, IMHO at least as good as GP2, especially because it ran smoothly at 640x480 on a Pentium 100, and GP2 didn't. Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:08:05 +1100, "Berno" > Papy say if you dont have skill and a wheel stiff shit! >while the gp series has always been more accesable while still hard with all >the help off. I agree with that. But: another reason I enjoyed ICR2 over such a long period of time were the though opponents. In GP2 or F1RS it's no problem to qualify for pole after some time of practicing, without any helps activated (for joystick). In ICR2 it's a lot of work before you can even think of finishing on the podium. Daniel -- Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria

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> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:08:05 +1100, "Berno" > > Papy say if you dont have skill and a wheel stiff shit! > >while the gp series has always been more accesable while still hard with all > >the help off. > I agree with that. But: another reason I enjoyed ICR2 over such a long > period of time were the though opponents. In GP2 or F1RS it's no > problem to qualify for pole after some time of practicing, without any > helps activated (for joystick). In ICR2 it's a lot of work before you > can even think of finishing on the podium. > Daniel > -- > Daniel Lichtenberger, Vienna/Austria

For the feel of the drive model, you can't beat GP2. After getting a new computer K6-2 400 I figured I'd now be able to have machine for F1RS. I found F1RS for $10 at EBWorld and you know what? F1RS is all eye candy and thats it. It does not compare at all to GP2 for the "feel" of the car, graphically it looks good, the sound sucks and when GP3 shows up I'll be first in line.