Hi all,
Many times in the past I've posted about how I've had a Thrustmaster
wheel for quite a while and have experienced no problems. Well I think
I'm experiencing one now!
I'm having trouble with the pedals. I first noticed it two days ago
whilst practicing for the IGPS Mosport race. Every once in a while the
revs wouldn't pick up going down the back straight and I never got them
high enough to shift up to 5th. At the time I thought it was just bad
driving but now, driving at Monza the problem is becoming worse.
Just now I was practicing and going down Monza's front stretch the revs
actually began dropping when I was at full throttle. Damage was off so
it wasn't an engine problem.
Is there a problem with my pedals? I have a TM Formula 1 / NASCAR pro
setup and I've heard about problems with dirt in the pots etc. But how
do I go about fixing these problems?
Thanks for ay help,
Graeme Nash
http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824
1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion
Hi Greame,
Nice race at Mosport.
Your probably going to have to take the bottom off your pedal box. Just
a couple screws, be careful of the wires. Get some Electronics duster (
just compressed air in a can ) and find the bronze colored circular
things attached to the pedal. There will be a squareish slot that you
can spray into. Just spray and move the pedals. Be sure to spray into
the pot.
Oh and be careful we want you at Monza. Got to stop this British
domination by you and Tony in IGPS <G>
BTW I'd like to thank you for making the Watkins Glen track for GP2.
I've been to many, many races at that track. Especially F1 when they ran
there. Now I can drive it in an F1 car. Thanks.
"ZZ"
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Take it apart and go to a local electronics store and get new pots or call
tm for free replacements if your'e not in a hurry. The pot may also be
slipping out of adjustment.
Also if you want to get a more realistic feel and lower your lap times
build a pedal box and wedge a tennis ball between the brake pedal and the
back of the pedal box, recalibrate and drive some laps, should take off a
second or two. You can vary the feel by using different balls and raising
or lowering the ball. Let me know if you like it.
JM
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> Hi all, > Many times in the past I've posted about how I've had a Thrustmaster > wheel for quite a while and have experienced no problems. Well I think > I'm experiencing one now! > I'm having trouble with the pedals. I first noticed it two days ago > whilst practicing for the IGPS Mosport race. Every once in a while the > revs wouldn't pick up going down the back straight and I never got them > high enough to shift up to 5th. At the time I thought it was just bad > driving but now, driving at Monza the problem is becoming worse. > Just now I was practicing and going down Monza's front stretch the revs > actually began dropping when I was at full throttle. Damage was off so > it wasn't an engine problem. > Is there a problem with my pedals? I have a TM Formula 1 / NASCAR pro > setup and I've heard about problems with dirt in the pots etc. But how > do I go about fixing these problems? > Thanks for ay help, > Graeme Nash > http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk > ICQ# 11257824 > 1998 Xoom GP2 League ChampionGo to an Elecronics shop like Maplins or Tandy and get some electrical
contact cleaner. Squirt it into the pots (the things that vary the
electrical currect) and press the pedals up and down several times. Wait
for 5 minutes and repeat. Works everytime. Replacing TM pots is fiddly and
usually not called for. Eventually the pots will go but can usually be
cleaned quite a few times before they need replacing.
Cheers,
Paul
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> Hi all, > Many times in the past I've posted about how I've had a Thrustmaster > wheel for quite a while and have experienced no problems. Well I think > I'm experiencing one now! > I'm having trouble with the pedals. I first noticed it two days ago > whilst practicing for the IGPS Mosport race. Every once in a while the > revs wouldn't pick up going down the back straight and I never got them > high enough to shift up to 5th. At the time I thought it was just bad > driving but now, driving at Monza the problem is becoming worse. > Just now I was practicing and going down Monza's front stretch the revs > actually began dropping when I was at full throttle. Damage was off so > it wasn't an engine problem. > Is there a problem with my pedals? I have a TM Formula 1 / NASCAR pro > setup and I've heard about problems with dirt in the pots etc. But how > do I go about fixing these problems? > Thanks for ay help, > Graeme Nash > http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk > ICQ# 11257824 > 1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion>Hi all,
>I'm having trouble with the pedals.
Thrustmaster will replace the pots if you register on their web site
www.thrustmaster.com - they have a form to select springs, pots, bungees
etc. It will take about a week to arrive though. Electrical spray cleaner
is probably the best short term solution.
I suggest you take it apart about 02:25GMT Saturday - You can always start
Monza from the pit lane.
I guess this explains why you were sooooo slow into the Hairpin at
Mosport!!!
Cheers
Tony
Two things could be at play here. While it may be a bad pot (as some
have suggested), I have also experienced this problem due to a Win95
calibration problem. If you are using the direct method of polling your
gameport, try the generic. If it goes away in generic, it is probably a
timing problem with your gameport and the speed of your computer (CPU,
bus).
I have an ACM card and I have to de-tune it to keep this from happening
in GPL when I use direct input. What is happening is that the
calibration in GPL will actually wrap around at full throttle, thus your
loss of speed. You might try shortening the calibration on your
throttle. Don't press it all the way down. Watch the GPL calibration
screen and if while holding the throttle full throw, you notice the
number dropping from 1025 or 1026 to 1, this indicates a problem with
the timing between your gamecard and the computer. If this also happens
when you are calibrating in "generic" mode, then it would indicate the
pot is in need of cleaning or replacement.
Besides, I really don't think you should find a fix for this problem,
you are aleady too fast and this seems like a fine handicap for the rest
of us. ;-)
% Hi all,
% Many times in the past I've posted about how I've had a Thrustmaster
% wheel for quite a while and have experienced no problems. Well I think
% I'm experiencing one now!
% I'm having trouble with the pedals. I first noticed it two days ago
% whilst practicing for the IGPS Mosport race. Every once in a while the
% revs wouldn't pick up going down the back straight and I never got them
% high enough to shift up to 5th. At the time I thought it was just bad
% driving but now, driving at Monza the problem is becoming worse.
% Just now I was practicing and going down Monza's front stretch the revs
% actually began dropping when I was at full throttle. Damage was off so
% it wasn't an engine problem.
% Is there a problem with my pedals? I have a TM Formula 1 / NASCAR pro
% setup and I've heard about problems with dirt in the pots etc. But how
% do I go about fixing these problems?
% Thanks for ay help,
% Graeme Nash
% http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
% ICQ# 11257824
% 1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion
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Thanks for all the help guys!!!! Pot cleaner will be at the ready
tomorrow although it seems it may not be a totally pot-related problem.
On the advice of Paul the other night on VROC and Michael now I
recalibrated again and it was OK for around an hour or so. Anyway,
thanks again!
Cheers!
Graeme Nash
http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824
1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion
Graeme,
If it is a problem with the pot, one workaround until you get the pot
replaced is to recalibrate the pedals, but don't depress them all the
way. That way you can guarantee that when you do press them to the
floor, you will get full throttle. Experiment with how far you need to
push down to achieve this.
If you have GP2 or F1RS, use their telemetry features to test your
pots. Go to a track like Hockenheim where you are on the throttle 100%
for long periods of time. If the telemetry isn't showing a flat line at
100%, you have a dirty/worn pot.
Hope this helps,
Dave Ewing
Just my two bits worth, but with some of these setups, as the system wears
in (out?) the pedal's, and consequently the pot's, range of travel increases
just enough to let the pot wiper run slightly past it's normal range of
travel. Depending on the design of the pot, that can mean the wiper runs
right off of the end of the conductive surface, so you effectively have
infinite resistance. You can sometimes see this in a calibration screen.
When you press on the pedal, the travel indicator runs all the way to one
extreme as it should, but when you press a little harder it jumps back to
center until you ease off again. In my experience, this usually happens in
the heat of the race when you're mashing the shit out of the gas and are
pressing harder than you realize. Sometimes you can overcome this by
jury-rigging your pedal to have a shorter range of travel, put a shim under
it or something similar. Hoping this might help.
Zog
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