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EA Superbike simulation mode replay of win at Donington

9 posts by 5 people · 12 Mar 1999 - 12 Mar 1999

Joe McGinn 12 Mar 1999#455692
>Look for message with same title in alt.binaries.simulators.autos >(file is 16.5kb zipped.) Hi Simon, I presume you mean at full Realism settings for computer opponents as well? Joe
Joe McGinn 12 Mar 1999#455693
>Look for message with same title in alt.binaries.simulators.autos >(file is 16.5kb zipped.) Interesting ... I checked out your replay and it seemed you were braking very late. I couldn't figure out how you were doing it. So I went and turned off the manual trasmission ... and suddenly it seemed like my braking power was doubled! Now no matter how hard I brake I can't lose the back end. For some wierd reason turning off the manual transmission seems to seriously affect the braking model. Have you experienced this phenomenon? Or can you get similar times with manual gear shifting? Joe
Joe McGinn 12 Mar 1999#455694
>So I >went and turned off the manual trasmission ... and suddenly it seemed >like my braking power was doubled! Now no matter how hard I brake I >can't lose the back end. Sorry, my mistake. It's not the manual transmission, it's the auto-situp that's increasing braking power. Which makes sense I guess, it would keep the back of the bike weighed down. Previously I hadn't been using the situp button at all. Anyone else who isn't using it, take note - you have to sit up to get the maximum braking effect without lifting your rear wheel. Joe
Mark C Dod 12 Mar 1999#455695
Tells you that in the manual but if your like me you tend to play a game for days before discovering the manual.
Quoted text (13 lines)> >So I > >went and turned off the manual trasmission ... and suddenly it seemed > >like my braking power was doubled! Now no matter how hard I brake I > >can't lose the back end. > Sorry, my mistake. It's not the manual transmission, it's the > auto-situp that's increasing braking power. Which makes sense I guess, > it would keep the back of the bike weighed down. Previously I hadn't > been using the situp button at all. Anyone else who isn't using it, > take note - you have to sit up to get the maximum braking effect > without lifting your rear wheel. > Joe
I have run a few races with manual tranmission, but I'm not good enough with it yet to last a whole race without crashing. So for the purpose of the replay, I raced with automatic. I'm not sure about braking differences, I'll have to check that out. BTW, you'll notice I qualified first. I managed to get a 1:30 time in qualifying, though I think my fastest race time there was about 1:33. I do brake late, but I try to get all my braking done before entering the corner and I try to let the brake off smoothly to avoid loading the front end. Other tricks I learnt of that track is to take the uphill section wide and try and straighten up while going through the two left kinks after the bridge. (Took me many times to do them fast without sliding.) The hairpin is another place where you can make up a lot of time over the AI riders. They tend to take a slow wide line, where as I like to brake deep, turn quick, straighten up and get on the gas as quick as possible. My technique for learning the courses is quite simple: Drive round slowly without using you brakes, this helps you find the best lines. You be surprised just how smoothly you can lap like this, and it's tyre friendly. When you can do a reasonable qualifying time without braking (or minimal) you can start to push it and use the brakes. Si. PS. For that Donington race, I think my settings were: front preload +2, rear preload +1, front tyre soft B, read hard A, rake minimum. Ridden from over-the-shoulder view.
Quoted text (14 lines)>>Look for message with same title in alt.binaries.simulators.autos >>(file is 16.5kb zipped.) >Interesting ... I checked out your replay and it seemed you were >braking very late. I couldn't figure out how you were doing it. So I >went and turned off the manual trasmission ... and suddenly it seemed >like my braking power was doubled! Now no matter how hard I brake I >can't lose the back end. >For some wierd reason turning off the manual transmission seems to >seriously affect the braking model. Have you experienced this >phenomenon? Or can you get similar times with manual gear shifting? >Joe
Tom Peterse 12 Mar 1999#455697
Guys I am enjoying the SBK posts. I thought that sitting up on the bike under braking was more of an aero thing, like drag to help slow the bike. This sim is still way cool, despite a lot of criticism of driving (riding) model. For sure it is the best available now. I wonder if everybody who is posting their impressions is on the same page though (action v. simulation), various aids on/off? I suspect not. I have sent an e-mail to a gent called "Mea***er" asking him to investigate the SBK sounds ( he has done sound packs for others like GPL and EAW) to see if something could be done for a couple bikes (Like the Kaw) and the crashing sounds (broken glass). No SBK sites yet, other than EA's. Cheers, Tom Petersen
Correct. -- Si. Get the most from Jane's F-15 at http://home.vest.net/flight >>Look for message with same title in alt.binaries.simulators.autos >>(file is 16.5kb zipped.) >Hi Simon, >I presume you mean at full Realism settings for computer opponents as >well? >Joe
DjFIL 12 Mar 1999#455699
all my posted thaughts we're in full sim mode (no aids) [link lost in import] this is my attempt to setup a online SBK racing leauge. no promices that it will work 100% due to internet lag and I hear its not that great of a game on modem or IPX but its worth a try I think. DjFIL
Quoted text (14 lines)> Guys I am enjoying the SBK posts. I thought that sitting up on the bike > under braking was more of an aero thing, like drag to help slow the bike. > This sim is still way cool, despite a lot of criticism of driving (riding) > model. For sure it is the best available now. I wonder if everybody who > is posting their impressions is on the same page though (action v. > simulation), various aids on/off? I suspect not. I have sent an e-mail to > a gent called "Mea***er" asking him to investigate the SBK sounds ( he has > done sound packs for others like GPL and EAW) to see if something could be > done for a couple bikes (Like the Kaw) and the crashing sounds (broken > glass). No SBK sites yet, other than EA's. > Cheers, > Tom Petersen

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