TO those who host GPL races on VROC

A simple request... When hosting a VROC race, please wait until all drivers finish the race before ending the race. I am fairly new at GPL so I sometimes end up a lap or two down from the leaders, but many times I don't even get to finish my race because the host will end the session when he is done, and some of us slower guys are trying to finish. That is very upsetting to say the least, and frankly is rude on behalf of the slower guys. I could understand if a guy is 20 laps or so down, but when I am only 3 or so laps down, I would like to finish my race. What do you others think? -- -Gunslinger-

Sure, Gunslinger, you should be allowed to finish your race - but that means finishing the lap you are on when the leader takes the chequered flag. That's the way it works in real racing, and nothing you do after that will affect the results. Andy

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> A simple request... > When hosting a VROC race, please wait until all drivers finish the > race before ending the race. > I am fairly new at GPL so I sometimes end up a lap or two down from > the leaders, but many times I don't even get to finish my race because > the host will end the session when he is done, and some of us slower > guys are trying to finish. That is very upsetting to say the least, > and frankly is rude on behalf of the slower guys. > I could understand if a guy is 20 laps or so down, but when I am only > 3 or so laps down, I would like to finish my race. > What do you others think? > -- > -Gunslinger-

What? Then why does the sim always wait until I have completed all laps before giving me the checkered flag and the Pit In message? I was under the impression that I had to finish all laps. If that is so, how will I know when the leader has finished, Since I don't get a checkered flag until my last lap? -- -Gunslinger-

I think the corner workers start waving all their flags as soon as the winner crosses the line. You'll see them at every corner. DD

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> >Sure, Gunslinger, you should be allowed to finish your race - but that > >means finishing the lap you are on when the leader takes the chequered > >flag. > >That's the way it works in real racing, and nothing you do after that > >will affect the results. > What? Then why does the sim always wait until I have completed all > laps before giving me the checkered flag and the Pit In message? > I was under the impression that I had to finish all laps. > If that is so, how will I know when the leader has finished, > Since I don't get a checkered flag until my last lap? > -- > -Gunslinger-

>You should get the checkered flag as soon as you cross the line after the >leader finishes the race. Also, you should see "L0" on the pit board at this >time. I am not sure what you mean by a "pit in message" -- I've never seen >this. Okay, perfect example. This morning I did an 11 lap race at Monza.I got screwed up and was 3 laps down. When I had three laps left (as in on the pit board it said L3) I started seeing people say nice race to the winner. I did not get any flags. I did another lap.. now the pit board said L2 Still no flags At 1 lap on my pit board people were disconnecting.. Now I had the white flag waving. After I crossed the line the pit board said L0 Now I was getting the flagmen all waving different flags.. One was waving blue, another green, another yellow, and another checkered. I did one more lap, as I came around the last turn the pit board said PIT IN See where my confusion is coming from? -- -Gunslinger-

If this is what's happening, then there's something wrong. -- Doug Gordon (remove "nospam" from e-mail address) >You should get the checkered flag as soon as you cross the line after the >leader finishes the race. Also, you should see "L0" on the pit board at this >time. I am not sure what you mean by a "pit in message" -- I've never seen >this. Okay, perfect example. This morning I did an 11 lap race at Monza.I got screwed up and was 3 laps down. When I had three laps left (as in on the pit board it said L3) I started seeing people say nice race to the winner. I did not get any flags. I did another lap.. now the pit board said L2 Still no flags At 1 lap on my pit board people were disconnecting.. Now I had the white flag waving. After I crossed the line the pit board said L0 Now I was getting the flagmen all waving different flags.. One was waving blue, another green, another yellow, and another checkered. I did one more lap, as I came around the last turn the pit board said PIT IN See where my confusion is coming from? -- -Gunslinger-

As another confirmed slug, I'd like to put in my experience the host let me finish, but then, as soon as I made it to the chat screen, he terminated the session, so I couldn't see any of my pitiful results....Have patience with us backmarkers thanks dave henrie

Each time you come near the start/finish line you should see your pitboard (if it is set to come up automatically), take note of how many laps you have left - displayed in the top right. When you are doing your final lap (unless you get lapped by the leader as the board is displayed) it will show L1. When you cross the line after this lap it will show L0. If you continue around to the start/finish line again, the Pit In sign will be displayed, but you should be entering the pits before this is shown. I can't remember if the flag marshalls all start to wave their flags when you cross the line at the end of your last lap or just after the leader crosses the line on his last lap. They are waving different colours at each corner. It does not matter how many laps you are down, the race is over when the leader finishes his last lap. It would be polite for the host to wait for all the drivers to enter the pits. Perhaps the drivers a towards the back could Esc Enter back to the pit lane instead of completing the slow down lap. Especially at Nurburgring! Bye, Ian

Try this. As soon as you finish, click on the save race replay button, hit any letter on keyboard and hit enter. It takes about 5 seconds and you have a record of your moments of glory :). Then go to the chat screen. I've practiced this move a lot and find that I can beat the average host's newspaper button. Gives you something to review with times and position and see where you got it right or wrong and you can always delete it later. David Erb

I thought that was a definite un-written rule: once you cross the checquered flag, stop the car and esc-enter. No dawdling around the track (it's annoying when people do cooldown laps at Spa).

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>A simple request... >When hosting a VROC race, please wait until all drivers finish the >race before ending the race. >I am fairly new at GPL so I sometimes end up a lap or two down from >the leaders, but many times I don't even get to finish my race because >the host will end the session when he is done, and some of us slower >guys are trying to finish. That is very upsetting to say the least, >and frankly is rude on behalf of the slower guys. >I could understand if a guy is 20 laps or so down, but when I am only >3 or so laps down, I would like to finish my race. >What do you others think? >-- >-Gunslinger-

I can see waiting if I'm Tail-end Charlie on the lead lap. I wouldn't expect for anybody to wait while I drove the 3 laps I was down. Besides, when you cross the line after the leader takes the checker, your race is over, too.... Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>A simple request... >>When hosting a VROC race, please wait until all drivers finish >>the race before ending the race. >>I am fairly new at GPL so I sometimes end up a lap or two down >>from the leaders, but many times I don't even get to finish my >>race because the host will end the session when he is done, >>and some of us slower guys are trying to finish. That is very >>upsetting to say the least, and frankly is rude on behalf of >>the slower guys. I could understand if a guy is 20 laps or so >>down, but when I am only 3 or so laps down, I would like to >>finish my race. What do you others think? >I can see waiting if I'm Tail-end Charlie on the lead lap. I >wouldn't expect for anybody to wait while I drove the 3 laps I >was down. Besides, when you cross the line after the leader >takes the checker, your race is over, too....

You don't get to drive those three laps. If you're laps down, your race is over when you cross the finish line after the winner takes the checkers. The above notwithstanding, it's just plain rude to press the red button BEFORE all of the drivers have taken the checkered flag. Anyone who does so, IMHO, is an ***. -- ========================================================= John Simmons - Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html John Simmons - Barbarian Diecast Collector http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html IGPS (Season 2) Director http://207.104.111.77/igps2/igps2.html If you want to send me email, go to either of the URL's shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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>>I can see waiting if I'm Tail-end Charlie on the lead lap. I >>wouldn't expect for anybody to wait while I drove the 3 laps I >>was down. Besides, when you cross the line after the leader >>takes the checker, your race is over, too.... >You don't get to drive those three laps. If you're laps down, your race >is over when you cross the finish line after the winner takes the >checkers.

I know, John. That's why I said 'your race is over, too...' <g> __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.