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Another V3 Question!

7 posts by 4 people · 15 Apr 1999 - 16 Apr 1999

Thad Failor 15 Apr 1999#462185
On a low end system (P2 233), what is better, a V3 or a Thriller 3D? I know that everyone suggests the Thriller if you have under a P2 350, because you'll get better FPS with the Thriller, then you would with a V2. Same hold true for a V3?
schwab 15 Apr 1999#462186
Hi Thad... well, from my perspective, I had a 233 MMX. The Thriller was really nice in the machine. I was very happy with it and it produced great framerates. (Could Randy Cassidy or Eric Busch offer any suggestions below?) happy now... I don't know if it's something with the BH6 or what... tried the reference drivers, and they were fine for a while, but I kept getting more problems as time went on, including a video freakout in a league race at Monaco... happened three times in a row, same place on the track in a timed practice. Had to reinstall the original drivers. They did not lock up (tho I got to the session with only 2 minutes remaining) in the practice. But I still have the same problem as always with the Herc drivers... I run GPL, then quit and if I try to go to properties afterward, I get a blue screen. NOTE: I did NOT have this problem with my 233MMX. So the point of all this is that I am considering a V3.... I liked the performance of the Thriller a lot. But it's a tad buggy.... just a wee bit, enough to be slightly annoying. -_dave > On a low end system (P2 233), what is better, a V3 or a Thriller 3D? I > know that everyone suggests the Thriller if you have under a P2 350, because > you'll get better FPS with the Thriller, then you would with a V2. Same > hold true for a V3? -- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe
Tilus 16 Apr 1999#462362
Hello ! If you play GPL, and other Papy sims only, get a thriller 3d 8mb, If you play ANYTHING else better get a V3 2000, it has a LOT better fillrate, and in any other aspects at least 3x faster then the Rendition V2200, but the difference is even greater in most cases ! BTW, why don`t you pick up a cheap CeleronA ? Tilus
Thad Failor 16 Apr 1999#462363
So for an over all card (D3D, 3Dfx and OpenGL), the V3 would be a better card. A Rendition card would be good only for Papy sims. D3D and OpenGL would be lacking in performance.. Dilemma! Actually, I think I have it figures out! Why don't I pick up a cheap CeleronA? Well, principle. I still haven't payed this one off. And, I kinda want to see what N3 requires for a solid system, before my next upgrade.
Quoted text (19 lines)>Hello ! >If you play GPL, and other Papy sims only, get a thriller 3d 8mb, >If you play ANYTHING else better get a V3 2000, it has a LOT better >fillrate, and in any other aspects >at least 3x faster then the Rendition V2200, but the difference is even >greater in most cases ! >BTW, why don`t you pick up a cheap CeleronA ? >Tilus >> On a low end system (P2 233), what is better, a V3 or a Thriller 3D? I >> know that everyone suggests the Thriller if you have under a P2 350, >because >> you'll get better FPS with the Thriller, then you would with a V2. Same >> hold true for a V3?
Brett Resch 16 Apr 1999#462364
>So the point of all this is that I am considering a V3.... I liked the >performance of the Thriller a lot. But it's a tad buggy.... just a wee >bit, enough to be slightly annoying. Hi Dave, If buggy is what you're looking to avoid... what psychedelic textures in GPL! This is after limiting the texture memory, so I'm not sure what the problem is. I haven't had time to dig into it, but I'll be working on it this weekend. Brett
schwab 16 Apr 1999#462365
Brett... good luck with this... maybe check the Apex forum, I seem to remember some posts there... but I have to admit not paying attention to them since i don't have a V3. thanks for the heads-up! :-) --Dave
Quoted text (17 lines)> >So the point of all this is that I am considering a V3.... I liked the > >performance of the Thriller a lot. But it's a tad buggy.... just a wee > >bit, enough to be slightly annoying. > Hi Dave, > If buggy is what you're looking to avoid... > what psychedelic textures in GPL! This is after limiting the texture > memory, so I'm not sure what the problem is. > I haven't had time to dig into it, but I'll be working on it this > weekend. > Brett
-- Dave Schwabe The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site http://users.wi.net/~schwabe
Brett Resch 16 Apr 1999#462366
Quoted text (31 lines)>Brett... good luck with this... maybe check the Apex forum, I seem to >remember some posts there... but I have to admit not paying attention to >them since i don't have a V3. >thanks for the heads-up! :-) >--Dave >> >So the point of all this is that I am considering a V3.... I liked the >> >performance of the Thriller a lot. But it's a tad buggy.... just a wee >> >bit, enough to be slightly annoying. >> Hi Dave, >> If buggy is what you're looking to avoid... >> what psychedelic textures in GPL! This is after limiting the texture >> memory, so I'm not sure what the problem is. >> I haven't had time to dig into it, but I'll be working on it this >> weekend. >> Brett
Incidentally, if anyone with a V2 single or SLI setup is still of the V3 3000 is obviously better than my single CL V2 12MB. But I have serious reservations about whether it is $179 USD better... I offer this opinion aside from the texture problems I'm having in GPL. I have no doubt that they can be fixed, and will be fixed. This opinion is based solely on frame rate improvement. My other option is to track down another CL V2 and do SLI. For the price, *if* I can get hold of one, I would feel much better about the value I'd be getting. I'd be losing the one-card solution that I find so attractive, but with a Matrox AGP and V2 SLI setup, I think I'd be able to live with the loss. It's just that finding another CL V2 12MB looks like it's going to be a hassle. Brett

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