SCGT-Two Questions

I have played the demo of SCGT and am awaiting the games release here in the UK on Friday, but I have a couple of questions. 1) what is the speed compensation option? 2) I am playing the game using 3dfx (D3D is very dark coloured, even playing around with the gamma slider) but notice that when watching a replay from 'trackside' the cars are drawn from low to high resolution as they pass the camera but this is done in a very 'jerky' way, rather than a smooth transition. Is this the case with the retail game (for information, I have a P450 with 2xDiamond 3dfx cards and 256mb ram). Thanks PJ

Unfortunately I've noticed the same thing about the cars. Quite annoying actually...you can see it happening during a race too. I have a similar system P400 with 2xDiamond Voodoo2 12 megs, but only 64megs of ram

Speed compesation speeds up the top speed of the cars behind the leader so that the race is closer. Very handy when you've souped up your car like hell (me! I love hitting about 240 mph at Hockenheim!!!) Good luck! And as soon as you get the full version, download the Advanced Options Editor. It gets rid of the two foot deep seeming grass and it makes the car handling a touch more realistic. Also, it makes the rain slicker. Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

The speed compensationa allows the game to drop framerates rather than make the "real" time longer than the lap time as happens with Nascar Revolution. Thats what I can gather anyway. I reckon the frame rate for the game is well below what it should be. I have no problems running GPL, Viper, Superbikes, Toca 2 and dozens of other games at their respective full res and graphics options. However with SCGT I get jerky graphics. I have a Xeon 500MHZ, 2 X Voodoo 2 (STB) and a BETA TNT 2.

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> I have played the demo of SCGT and am awaiting the games release here in the > UK on Friday, but I have a couple of questions. > 1) what is the speed compensation option? > 2) I am playing the game using 3dfx (D3D is very dark coloured, even > playing around with the gamma slider) but notice that when watching a replay > from 'trackside' the cars are drawn from low to high resolution as they pass > the camera but this is done in a very 'jerky' way, rather than a smooth > transition. Is this the case with the retail game (for information, I have a > P450 with 2xDiamond 3dfx cards and 256mb ram). > Thanks > PJ

>The speed compensationa allows the game to drop framerates rather than make the >"real" time longer than the lap time as happens with Nascar Revolution. Thats >what I can gather anyway. I don't believe that is true. I am almost certain that speed compensation speeds up the AI if you are too far ahaed or slows them down if you are too far behind. Jim

> The speed compensationa allows the game to drop framerates rather than make the > "real" time longer than the lap time as happens with Nascar Revolution. Thats > what I can gather anyway. Read the manual... That's not what this option does. What is does is the following: it helps slower cars get "speed boosts" in order to stay competitive, kinda like an arcade racer. When you get in front, the other cars you passed go a bit faster. Philster

Dumbass. Speed Compensation is whether or not you want the AI to be able to "catch up to the pack" when it gets behind. > The speed compensationa allows the game to drop framerates rather than make the > "real" time longer than the lap time as happens with Nascar Revolution. Thats > what I can gather anyway. > I reckon the frame rate for the game is well below what it should be. I have no > problems running GPL, Viper, Superbikes, Toca 2 and dozens of other games at > their respective full res and graphics options. However with SCGT I get jerky > graphics. I have a Xeon 500MHZ, 2 X Voodoo 2 (STB) and a BETA TNT 2. > > I have played the demo of SCGT and am awaiting the games release here in the > > UK on Friday, but I have a couple of questions. > > 1) what is the speed compensation option? > > 2) I am playing the game using 3dfx (D3D is very dark coloured, even > > playing around with the gamma slider) but notice that when watching a replay > > from 'trackside' the cars are drawn from low to high resolution as they pass > > the camera but this is done in a very 'jerky' way, rather than a smooth > > transition. Is this the case with the retail game (for information, I have a > > P450 with 2xDiamond 3dfx cards and 256mb ram). > > Thanks > > PJ

Computer, dump this rude child into permanent non-existence.

Probably. I havent read the manual yet and there is nothing about it in the readme. Whilst I was having troubles with the frame rate I was changing things around and I assu'med this is what this setting was doing. Oh well, wrong again for the millionth time this week....

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> >The speed compensationa allows the game to drop framerates rather than make > the > >"real" time longer than the lap time as happens with Nascar Revolution. > Thats > >what I can gather anyway. > I don't believe that is true. I am almost certain that speed compensation > speeds up the AI if you are too far ahaed or slows them down if you are too > far behind. > Jim

Sorry for not being correct all of the time. I never claimed this to be the actual answer, just what I could gather from playing the game for many hours without reading the manual. Dumbass......no.......mistaken......yes.....

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> Dumbass. > Speed Compensation is whether or not you want the AI to be able to "catch up > to the pack" when it gets behind. > > The speed compensationa allows the game to drop framerates rather than > make the > > "real" time longer than the lap time as happens with Nascar Revolution. > Thats > > what I can gather anyway. > > I reckon the frame rate for the game is well below what it should be. I > have no > > problems running GPL, Viper, Superbikes, Toca 2 and dozens of other games > at > > their respective full res and graphics options. However with SCGT I get > jerky > > graphics. I have a Xeon 500MHZ, 2 X Voodoo 2 (STB) and a BETA TNT 2. > > > I have played the demo of SCGT and am awaiting the games release here in > the > > > UK on Friday, but I have a couple of questions. > > > 1) what is the speed compensation option? > > > 2) I am playing the game using 3dfx (D3D is very dark coloured, even > > > playing around with the gamma slider) but notice that when watching a > replay > > > from 'trackside' the cars are drawn from low to high resolution as they > pass > > > the camera but this is done in a very 'jerky' way, rather than a smooth > > > transition. Is this the case with the retail game (for information, I > have a > > > P450 with 2xDiamond 3dfx cards and 256mb ram). > > > Thanks > > > PJ

I hit the delete key on my keyboard. Will this make him vanish or am I being a dumbass again? Mind you, I was rather rude to another poster on this newsgroup so I can't really complain about this little flame. > Computer, dump this rude child into permanent non-existence. > > Dumbass.

I actually thought this would be a very useful option (for beginners and pros alike) until I got to see the extremely unrealistic side of it... I had set the Speed Compensation to "Low" and was putting out good lap times consistently at Sardian Park and slightly pulling away from the pack. The guy occupying the last place had to make an extra pitstop because of some racing incident which allowed me to catch and lap him. From the mirror I could see him pulling away from the pits. To my surprise, this backmarker had soon caught me and zoomed past my BMW like his wife was in labor or something. He probably had fresh tires but mine weren't bad either (94% IIRC). He was simply too fast - phenomenally so. What made the situation ridiculous was that at the same time I was pulling away from number 2 and number 12 was now pulling away from me, faster than anything I had seen during the race so far. Needless to say, I felt quite overwhelmed by this "divine intervention". Having fought hard for the 1st place it didn't particularly add to the feeling of accomplishment to see a backmarker leave me like standing. And btw, another minor thing that doesn't affect the racing itself but which somehow annoys the hell outta me is how the AI cars seem to continue fighting for position when the race has ended. It's like they're simply using a slightly tuned down version of the racing algorithm. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken

Played with the setting as well and its effects are comical with the faster carson tracks like Hockenheim. Lucky the AI times don;t count towards the lap records!

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> > Read the manual... That's not what this option does. What is does is the > > following: it helps slower cars get "speed boosts" in order to stay > > competitive, kinda like an arcade racer. When you get in front, the > > other cars you passed go a bit faster. > I actually thought this would be a very useful option (for beginners and > pros alike) until I got to see the extremely unrealistic side of it... > I had set the Speed Compensation to "Low" and was putting out good lap > times consistently at Sardian Park and slightly pulling away from the > pack. > The guy occupying the last place had to make an extra pitstop because of > some racing incident which allowed me to catch and lap him. From the > mirror I could see him pulling away from the pits. To my surprise, this > backmarker had soon caught me and zoomed past my BMW like his wife was in > labor or something. He probably had fresh tires but mine weren't bad > either (94% IIRC). He was simply too fast - phenomenally so. > What made the situation ridiculous was that at the same time I was > pulling away from number 2 and number 12 was now pulling away from me, > faster than anything I had seen during the race so far. Needless to say, > I felt quite overwhelmed by this "divine intervention". Having fought > hard for the 1st place it didn't particularly add to the feeling of > accomplishment to see a backmarker leave me like standing. > And btw, another minor thing that doesn't affect the racing itself but > which somehow annoys the hell outta me is how the AI cars seem to > continue fighting for position when the race has ended. It's like they're > simply using a slightly tuned down version of the racing algorithm. > --- > Antti Markus Peteri > 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away > - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken