Voodoo3 - 2000 - Rocks hard in sims.......

Sounds good rrevved! Thanks for getting back to the group. I just may have to go get one myself. I'm anxiously awaiting your flight sim results. Tell me, are you overclocking the card at all to get this kind of performance? --Tim

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>I am in sim heaven. I replaced my VoodooII with a $129 Voodoo3-2000, >yesterday, and I can't believe the difference. >Today, I am going to try out my flight sims, F4, EAW, WWIIF, SDOE, >and Apache Havoc. I expect similar sim goodness. >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

rrevved, I along with many others are KEENLY interested in how F4 does along with those other sims. Please let us know how it goes!! By the way, is that AGP or PCI that you got...I'm seriously contemplating the Voodoo3 3000 AGP. Oh,and if you dont mind...could you say how you installed...I.E. did you cleanse your system of previous drivers etc. and exactly how did you do that. I know it's asking alot but I value your opinion and expertise! Hornit

F4 runs great (you need to uninstall, then reinstall). I can't get high res GLIDE to work, but D3D + GLIDE look the same (quality + speed wise). I run at 1280x960 now... very very nice at this res. (very good frame rate, very nice image quality). :-) -- Mike Please remove .SPAMBURGER from my email address when replying > >I am in sim heaven. I replaced my VoodooII with a $129 Voodoo3-2000, > >yesterday, and I can't believe the difference. > >Today, I am going to try out my flight sims, F4, EAW, WWIIF, SDOE, > >and Apache Havoc. I expect similar sim goodness. > >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com > rrevved, > I along with many others are KEENLY interested in how F4 does along > with those other sims. Please let us know how it goes!! By the way, is > that AGP or PCI that you got...I'm seriously contemplating the Voodoo3 > 3000 AGP. Oh,and if you dont mind...could you say how you > installed...I.E. did you cleanse your system of previous drivers etc. > and exactly how did you do that. I know it's asking alot but I value > your opinion and expertise! > Hornit

*snip* Can't speak to F4 performance, but it is very important with the V3 that you pop the CD in BEFORE swapping cards. You run the CD as per instructions, it can identify your old card and purge the drivers while it's still in. If you swap cards first, things become more difficult. Read the instructions first on this one and it'll all work great. I don't think this is a big issue for non-3Dfx owners, but if you are upgrading a Voodoo2 rig, then you should do it the right way to get Glide done right. -- "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft"? -- Christine Comaford, PC Week, 27/9/95

Could not agree more.....no more stuttering with huge formations of planes in EAW at 800x600, even with smoke pouring out everywhere...on my Pentuim 400 with 64 MB and Voodoo 3 3000!! Beautiful!!

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>Hello, rrevved. > I got Voodoo3 3000 AGP today too, and I saw real marvel!!!!!! > I upgraded from Monster3D2 Voodoo2 8MB. With old Voodoo2, >There are some jerks with 19 AI cars at even Sliverstone (800x600 res). >No mention needed about Monaco...=( >But, with Voodoo3 and Unofficial Banshee/Voodoo3 patch, The jerks >are gone at same condition WITH 1024x768 res!!!! > Numerically, It might be seen a little bit difference between 800x600 and >1024x768, but there is THE difference! I can drive relying on eyes other >than >memories! I'm feeling like I got real world! =) > Thanks 3dfx and Mr George M. Smiley! > Now, I'm becoming optimistic about NASCAR Racing 2000 with 40 AI cars. >CPU: Celeron 300A at 463MHz >M/B: AOpen AX6B >RAM: 128MB x2 (CL=2) >Y.Minami

I would love to run GPL at 1024x768, but only if the startline framerate is acceptable for online racing (> 30fps). Can anyone with a Voodoo3 3000 tell me what the startline framerate is for: - 1024x768 - 19 AI cars - starting at back of grid - in***pit-view (of course) - all detail on - detail bias set about 25% (from left) - using standard grid - at Spa I know it's asking a lot, but it would be much appreciated. Just want to make sure it's worth switching from a TNT/12MB V2 combination (I don't have a free PCI slot for a 2nd V2 in SLI). FYI, I have a PII 450 with 128MB - an overclocked Celeron 300 should give similar performance. Thanks in advance, Brian

rrevved, Any reason why you didn't go with the V3-3000? Thanks, Otis >I am in sim heaven. I replaced my VoodooII with a $129 Voodoo3-2000, >yesterday, and I can't believe the difference. >My system - PII-333 (oc375) / 128MB

Butting in here, I got the V3-2000 instead of V3-3000 for several reason. 1)My 17" monitor only does 1024x768 anyway, V3-2000 fast enough. 2)Didn't need TV-out, nice but not needed 3)I am cheap Oh wait, #3 should be #1 -- "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft"? -- Christine Comaford, PC Week, 27/9/95

I got both F4 and A V3 3000 last week. I wasn't actually all that e***d about the V3 as I was changing over from a V2 SLI/G200 setup. What really surprised me is how much I like the V3 3000. It is a bit faster than SLI and looks a bit better, the 2D is fantastic, every bit as good as my G200. Falcon 4, which I am still playing in "mentally challenged mode" is smooth as glass in Glide mode at 1024x768 and at 1280x960 D3D I did notice a slowdown when flying through clouds of smoke from an oil tank fire I had created. But overall 1024x768 seems to be the "sweet spot" for F4 with the V3 3000. F4 is driving me nuts because I cannot seem to stop once I load it up. Overall Falcon 4 + V3= fantastic. This is probably old news but if you want to enable higher resolutions in glide make this the line in your shortcut or put it in the "run" box at the start menu. C:\MicroProse\Falcon4\Falcon4.exe -HiRes Of course put in the proper path if it is different.

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> >I am in sim heaven. I replaced my VoodooII with a $129 Voodoo3-2000, > >yesterday, and I can't believe the difference. > >Today, I am going to try out my flight sims, F4, EAW, WWIIF, SDOE, > >and Apache Havoc. I expect similar sim goodness. > >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com > rrevved, > I along with many others are KEENLY interested in how F4 does along > with those other sims. Please let us know how it goes!! By the way, is > that AGP or PCI that you got...I'm seriously contemplating the Voodoo3 > 3000 AGP. Oh,and if you dont mind...could you say how you > installed...I.E. did you cleanse your system of previous drivers etc. > and exactly how did you do that. I know it's asking alot but I value > your opinion and expertise! > Hornit

He probably doesnt have an AGP slot. The V3/3000 is AGP only , I think. daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Hello, rrevved. I got Voodoo3 3000 AGP today too, and I saw real marvel!!!!!! I upgraded from Monster3D2 Voodoo2 8MB. With old Voodoo2, There are some jerks with 19 AI cars at even Sliverstone (800x600 res). No mention needed about Monaco...=( But, with Voodoo3 and Unofficial Banshee/Voodoo3 patch, The jerks are gone at same condition WITH 1024x768 res!!!! Numerically, It might be seen a little bit difference between 800x600 and 1024x768, but there is THE difference! I can drive relying on eyes other than memories! I'm feeling like I got real world! =) Thanks 3dfx and Mr George M. Smiley! Now, I'm becoming optimistic about NASCAR Racing 2000 with 40 AI cars. CPU: Celeron 300A at 463MHz M/B: AOpen AX6B RAM: 128MB x2 (CL=2) Y.Minami

There are numbers on my site that relate how it does specifically in Falcon 4....in comparison to V2 SLI, TNT and different versions of V3. PAPA DOC www.papadoc.net Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Pink Flamingo Pilot...<G> Falcon 4 Instructor Pilot www.papadoc.net Home of the Falcon 4 Benchmark

Why CPU are you running? 1280x960 D3D works great for me with V3 3000 + P2-450 + 256 MB's of RAM. -- Mike Please remove .SPAMBURGER from my email address when replying > I got both F4 and A V3 3000 last week. I wasn't actually all that > e***d about the V3 as I was changing over from a V2 SLI/G200 setup. > What really surprised me is how much I like the V3 3000. It is a bit > faster than SLI and looks a bit better, the 2D is fantastic, every bit > as good as my G200. Falcon 4, which I am still playing in "mentally > challenged mode" is smooth as glass in Glide mode at 1024x768 and at > 1280x960 D3D I did notice a slowdown when flying through clouds of smoke > from an oil tank fire I had created. But overall 1024x768 seems to be > the "sweet spot" for F4 with the V3 3000. F4 is driving me nuts because > I cannot seem to stop once I load it up. Overall Falcon 4 + V3= > fantastic. This is probably old news but if you want to enable higher > resolutions in glide make this the line in your shortcut or put it in > the "run" box at the start menu. C:\MicroProse\Falcon4\Falcon4.exe > -HiRes Of course put in the proper path if it is different. > > >I am in sim heaven. I replaced my VoodooII with a $129 Voodoo3-2000, > > >yesterday, and I can't believe the difference. > > >Today, I am going to try out my flight sims, F4, EAW, WWIIF, SDOE, > > >and Apache Havoc. I expect similar sim goodness. > > >// rrevved posts from mindspring dot com > > rrevved, > > I along with many others are KEENLY interested in how F4 does along > > with those other sims. Please let us know how it goes!! By the way, is > > that AGP or PCI that you got...I'm seriously contemplating the Voodoo3 > > 3000 AGP. Oh,and if you dont mind...could you say how you > > installed...I.E. did you cleanse your system of previous drivers etc. > > and exactly how did you do that. I know it's asking alot but I value > > your opinion and expertise! > > Hornit

Same here. I expected it to be better, but was shock at just how much better it was. Steven

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> I am in sim heaven. I replaced my VoodooII with a $129 Voodoo3-2000, > yesterday, and I can't believe the difference. > My system - PII-333 (oc375) / 128MB > In TOCA2 racing, I was using 800x600 with the Voodoo2 and turning > down some details to get a decent framerate while racing in a large > pack of cars. Now, I can use 1600x1200 with ALL details to get the > same framerate. If I use 1280x1024, or 1280x960, it is LIQUID SMOOTH > at all times, even during huge crashes. > And it looks real nice too.. :) > I knew Voodoo3 would be better, but, in fact, it is an *unbelievable* > difference! > In Nascar 1999, I can now turn on ALL detail, 39 cars rendered ahead, > and there is no perceptible slowdown at -any- time. Before, I could > render about 12 cars ahead, to achieve this at ~medium detail. > Today, I am going to try out my flight sims, F4, EAW, WWIIF, SDOE, > and Apache Havoc. I expect similar sim goodness. > I am -very- surprised at the performance. This card just gave my system > a mid-life boost, for $129, that should EASILY delay building a new one > until late 1999, early 2000. > Let the TNT2/Voodoo3/first person shooter/review wars rage on. > I, for one, am a very surprised and happy camper. > -- > // rrevved posts from mindspring dot com

>> rrevved, >> Any reason why you didn't go with the V3-3000? >> Thanks, >> Otis >He probably doesnt have an AGP slot. The V3/3000 is AGP only , I think. >daxe >The V3 3000 has hardware accel support for DVD...the V3 2000 does not. Otherwise...the same. The 2000 is available in either PCI/AGP config. cheers...duncan.

Not to be overly contentious, but what are you clarifying? I speculated he probably got the V3/2000 because he doesn't have an AGP slot. If he had only a PCI slot, he couldn't get the V3/3000 because it is AGP only. I don't recall anyone mentioning DVD. cheers to you also! ~daxe -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Looks like I have to change my voodoo1 for a voodoo3 very soon :-) Jens On Wed, 5 May 1999 03:47:10 +0900, "Y.Minami" >Hello, rrevved. > I got Voodoo3 3000 AGP today too, and I saw real marvel!!!!!! <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

Better be quick - so you can get 5 days use out of it before voodoo 4 or TNT 2 becomes a neccessity. Exactly what do I do with my Orchid Righteous 3dfx Voodoo 1 card now then? The documentation said "we hope it gives a lifetimes service..." I remember feeling rather sceptical at the time.....

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> Looks like I have to change my voodoo1 for a voodoo3 very soon :-) > Jens > On Wed, 5 May 1999 03:47:10 +0900, "Y.Minami" > >Hello, rrevved. > > I got Voodoo3 3000 AGP today too, and I saw real marvel!!!!!! > <snip> > --------------------------------------------- > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

Put it in the pile with your Pentium motherboards, Soundblaster AWE 32, 8 x CD ROM, 10000 5 1/4" floppies, 220MB hard disk and Comfy Keyboard. That's what I miss about not being a PC store manager anymore. The inbuilt redundancy of the "latest and greatest" products was guaranteed!

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> Better be quick - so you can get 5 days use out of it before voodoo 4 > or TNT 2 becomes a neccessity. > Exactly what do I do with my Orchid Righteous 3dfx Voodoo 1 card now > then? > The documentation said "we hope it gives a lifetimes service..." I > remember > feeling rather sceptical at the time..... > > Looks like I have to change my voodoo1 for a voodoo3 very soon :-) > > Jens > > On Wed, 5 May 1999 03:47:10 +0900, "Y.Minami" > > >Hello, rrevved. > > > I got Voodoo3 3000 AGP today too, and I saw real marvel!!!!!! > > <snip> > > --------------------------------------------- > > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

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> > >He probably doesnt have an AGP slot. The V3/3000 is AGP only , I > > think. > > >daxe > > >The V3 3000 has hardware accel support for DVD...the V3 2000 does not. > > Otherwise...the same. The 2000 is available in either PCI/AGP config. > > cheers...duncan. > Not to be overly contentious, but what are you clarifying? I speculated he > probably got the V3/2000 because he doesn't have an AGP slot. If he had only a > PCI slot, he couldn't get the V3/3000 because it is AGP only. I don't recall > anyone mentioning DVD.

The 3000 doesn't have hardware DVD capabilities (at least none over the 2000, that is). You have to go with the substantially more expensive 3500 for that stuff.. However, I think that you are right, the 3000 doesn't come in PCI variety, and the 3000 is also harder (MUCH) to find. I managed to bag a 3000 at BestBuy for 150 (they ran a sale when they first appeared, and I snagged a raincheck), about 3 weeks after it posted. I actually found one in Maryland (I live on Colorado), brought it back, then got the "refund" for the raincheck. Anyway... I still can't render the sky in Janes WW2F well at all (large FPS hit). But everything else looks pretty good... I thinik that the 3000 comes with a niftier software bundle (Unreal, NFS2 hot pursuit, and Descent 3 demo, but no flight sims). now, if I could only get it to work wiht ef2k! -- Jon http://www.glue.umd.edu/~asterix

check out www.pricewatch.com and buy all the Voodoo3 3000 cards you want for under $140.

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>> > >He probably doesnt have an AGP slot. The V3/3000 is AGP only , I >> > think. >> > >daxe >> > >The V3 3000 has hardware accel support for DVD...the V3 2000 does not. >> > Otherwise...the same. The 2000 is available in either PCI/AGP config. >> > cheers...duncan. >> Not to be overly contentious, but what are you clarifying? I speculated he >> probably got the V3/2000 because he doesn't have an AGP slot. If he had only a >> PCI slot, he couldn't get the V3/3000 because it is AGP only. I don't recall >> anyone mentioning DVD. >The 3000 doesn't have hardware DVD capabilities (at least none over the >2000, that is). You have to go with the substantially more expensive 3500 >for that stuff.. However, I think that you are right, the 3000 doesn't >come in PCI variety, and the 3000 is also harder (MUCH) to find. I >managed to bag a 3000 at BestBuy for 150 (they ran a sale when they first >appeared, and I snagged a raincheck), about 3 weeks after it posted. I >actually found one in Maryland (I live on Colorado), brought it back, then >got the "refund" for the raincheck. >Anyway... I still can't render the sky in Janes WW2F well at all (large >FPS hit). But everything else looks pretty good... >I thinik that the 3000 comes with a niftier software bundle (Unreal, NFS2 >hot pursuit, and Descent 3 demo, but no flight sims). now, if I could >only get it to work wiht ef2k! >> cheers to you also! >> ~daxe >> -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! >> ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==----- >-- >Jon >http://www.glue.umd.edu/~asterix