NT's a BEEEYATCH

OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you know) SO...GPL Doesn't work. I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it doesn't work in NT) Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT. F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something... AMD K6^2 300 128mb Ram Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb) Cheers Doug

May I suggest you set up yourself a dual boot machine ! You'd have to create two partitions, install 95/98 first, than NT. You could then play all the games, plus have the stability and performance for your work programs. Robert Hull, Qubec

You read my mind Robert <g>

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> May I suggest you set up yourself a dual boot machine ! > You'd have to create two partitions, install 95/98 first, than NT. You > could then play all the games, plus have the stability and performance for > your work programs. > Robert > Hull, Qubec

GPL 1.1 ( with patch ) is supposed to run on Win NT 5.0 ( not sure about 4.0 ). I'm building a dual celeron system as ( GPL with 1.1 patch ) it will support dual processor systems. I just need to get that win2000 thing :-) Borut

Doug, The best thing to do is simply dual boot your machine between NT and Win95/8. NT isn't great at games because the driver support just isn't there. The other advantage is that if you put the NT stuff on an NTFS disk, then Win95/8 will not see it, and so won't be able to put any dodgy software into your NT installation (which I am assuming you use for work). Hope this helps. Steve.

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> OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you > know) > SO...GPL Doesn't work. > I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it > doesn't > work in NT) > Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the > line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT. > F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something... > AMD K6^2 300 > 128mb Ram > Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb) > Cheers > Doug

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>Doug, The best thing to do is simply dual boot your machine between NT and >Win95/8. NT isn't great at games because the driver support just isn't >there. The other advantage is that if you put the NT stuff on an NTFS >disk, then Win95/8 will not see it, and so won't be able to put any dodgy >software into your NT installation (which I am assuming you use for work). >Hope this helps. >Steve.

Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this, or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a url link. thanks guys.

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>> OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you >> know) >> SO...GPL Doesn't work. >> I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it >> doesn't >> work in NT) >> Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the >> line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT. >> F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something... >> AMD K6^2 300 >> 128mb Ram >> Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb) >> Cheers >> Doug

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GP2 Probably won't work because it directly accesses the hardware and NT DOS boxes don;t like that. Anything that needs Direct X is a non no so that covers about 99% of the modern sims. Can't think of anything really. Why don't don't you dual boot the PC?

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> OK, I've gotta have NT on my machine for 3D Graphic work (Softimage, you > know) > SO...GPL Doesn't work. > I'm not buying TOCA 2 (Because I phoned Codemasters, and they say it doesn't > work in NT) > Anyone know what decent Driving Games / Sims (I find it hard to draw the > line, afterall, it's always just for fun....) that DO run under NT. > F1, Rally, ANY DAMN THING. Come on, I need to play something... > AMD K6^2 300 > 128mb Ram > Quantum Raven Voodoo Banshee (16 mb) > Cheers > Doug

Hi my suggestion is different: -create one partition with the size for nt. -install nt -use the drive manager to create another primary partition (nt allows the creation, w95/98 will use it) -mark the 2nd primary partition as active -reboot and install 95/98 on the 2nd primary partition the only drawback is, that you have to use fdisk(98/98) and the nt drive manager to switch between the primary partitions. (a boot manager may fix this). only if nt & 95/98 are on different partitions you can use ntfs for nt and/or have "real" stability. Joachim

> Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this, > or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a > url link. thanks guys. Its a while since I've done it, but if you already have a DOS option in your NT boot menu, then you can install Win95 from there, and it's fine. I think it's easeir to install Win95 first, then NT. Having said that, I've a feeling that Win95/98 knows about NT, and might put itself in the boot menu on an NT box anyways. Unless somebody can come up with a definitive answer, the best bet might be to take a backup, and then just try it. Hope this helps. Steve.

Having done a number of dual boot rigs here at work, the solution I've found to work best is this: Starting with a clean hard drive, boot from the NT CDROM (yes, it's bootable) then create a 4 Gig or smaller partition on the drive to hold NT. You can't install NT to any partition or volume larger than 4 Gig, so start there. Once NT is installed and working, you can if you like increase the size of its partition using Partition Magic. Boot with the 98 boot floppy and create a primary partition and install 98 to it. Once that's done, the machine will always boot to 98, until... ...you download the Ranish Partition manager utility from the following URL: http://www.lester.co.uk/ranish/part/ You'll find a nifty boot menu that allows you to boot from either partition. Best of all, it installs in the boot record, and doesn't need a partition of its own. Trips

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> > Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this, > > or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a > > url link. thanks guys. > Its a while since I've done it, but if you already have a DOS option in > your NT boot menu, then you can install Win95 from there, and it's fine. > I think it's easeir to install Win95 first, then NT. > Having said that, I've a feeling that Win95/98 knows about NT, and might > put itself in the boot menu on an NT box anyways. > Unless somebody can come up with a definitive answer, the best bet might > be to take a backup, and then just try it. > Hope this helps. > Steve.

While most of what is written below holds true, NT can in fact be installed on a partition of virtually unlimitted size. However the boot CD can not make a partition of greater that 4 GB. also, as for downloading a file to make any OS the boot os that is uneccesary also. When NT is installed a file (boot.ini) is created and editing this will choose which OS is the boot OS. The help files are pretty good about this

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> Having done a number of dual boot rigs here at work, the solution I've > found to work best is this: > Starting with a clean hard drive, boot from the NT CDROM (yes, it's > bootable) then create a 4 Gig or smaller partition on the drive to hold > NT. You can't install NT to any partition or volume larger than 4 Gig, > so start there. Once NT is installed and working, you can if you like > increase the size of its partition using Partition Magic. > Boot with the 98 boot floppy and create a primary partition and install > 98 to it. Once that's done, the machine will always boot to 98, until... > ...you download the Ranish Partition manager utility from the following > URL: > http://www.lester.co.uk/ranish/part/ > You'll find a nifty boot menu that allows you to boot from either > partition. Best of all, it installs in the boot record, and doesn't need > a partition of its own. > Trips > > > Can you please give a brief explanation on how to go about doing this, > > > or perhaps point me in the right direction via information found on a > > > url link. thanks guys. > > Its a while since I've done it, but if you already have a DOS option in > > your NT boot menu, then you can install Win95 from there, and it's fine. > > I think it's easeir to install Win95 first, then NT. > > Having said that, I've a feeling that Win95/98 knows about NT, and might > > put itself in the boot menu on an NT box anyways. > > Unless somebody can come up with a definitive answer, the best bet might > > be to take a backup, and then just try it. > > Hope this helps. > > Steve.

> While most of what is written below holds true, NT can in fact be installed > on a partition of virtually unlimitted size. However the boot CD can not > make a partition of greater that 4 GB. True, NT can be installed to a pre-existing NTFS partition of any size, I assumed that a NTFS partitioon wasn't already in place. Absolutely, but I find it a LOT easier to choose the boot OS with a single keystroke at boot time than to edit a file every time I want to change it... Your mileage may vary... Trips