Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003
RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps)
Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff
1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s
2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s 45.142s
3 10 Jan Verschueren Brabham BEL 107 121m38.056s 1 lap(s)
4 16 D. Johnson Eagle CAN 72 87m39.090s 36 lap(s)
5 9 Jimmy De Plecker BRM BEL 43 50m46.033s 65 lap(s)
6 11 Mark Seery Ferrari IRE 36 41m06.222s 72 lap(s)
7 8 Don McCorkle Brabham USA 35 40m55.168s 73 lap(s)
8 14 Frank H Koenig Cooper USA 33 39m03.128s 75 lap(s)
9 18 Don Watson Eagle USA 6 7m48.179s 02 lap(s)
10 15 Hal Raymond Ferrari USA 3 3m39.140s 05 lap(s)
11 3 Eldred Pickett Lotus USA 0 0m00.000s 08 lap(s)
12 4 Eldred Pickett2 Brabham USA 0 DidNotStart 08 lap(s)
Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)
RACE FASTEST LAPS
Pos Driver Time Lap
1 Neil Charlton 1m05.861s 105
2 Uwe Schuerkamp 1m06.282s 86
3 Mark Seery 1m06.780s 30
4 Jan Verschueren 1m07.043s 78
5 Jimmy De Plecker 1m08.065s 32
6 Don McCorkle 1m08.174s 32
7 D. Johnson 1m08.554s 56
8 Frank H Koenig 1m08.891s 28
9 Don Watson 1m10.482s 3
10 Hal Raymond 1m10.642s 2
11 Eldred Pickett No time
12 Eldred Pickett2 No time
LEADERS
Driver Laps
Neil Charlton 1-108
Number of lead changes: 0
Number of leaders: 1
LAPS LED
Driver Laps led
Neil Charlton 108
HIGHEST CLIMBER
Driver Start Finish Change
Don McCorkle 12 7 5
D. Johnson 8 4 4
Jimmy De Plecker 7 5 2
Frank H Koenig 9 8 1
Jan Verschueren 4 3 1
Don Watson 10 9 1
Uwe Schuerkamp 2 2 0
Neil Charlton 1 1 0
Eldred Pickett2 11 12 -1
Mark Seery 3 6 -3
Hal Raymond 5 10 -5
Eldred Pickett 6 11 -5
ON TRACK LAPS
Driver Laps/Total Percent
Uwe Schuerkamp (102/108) 94.44
Neil Charlton (101/108) 93.52
Jan Verschueren (95/107) 88.79
D. Johnson (55/72) 76.39
Jimmy De Plecker (36/43) 83.72
Mark Seery (34/36) 94.44
Don McCorkle (33/35) 94.29
Frank H Koenig (31/33) 93.94
Don Watson (4/6) 66.67
Hal Raymond (2/3) 66.67
RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)
Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime Laps
Neil Charlton 0.410 0.922 1m07.178s 108
Hal Raymond 0.488 0.488 1m11.130s 3
Jan Verschueren 0.588 1.303 1m08.136s 107
Don McCorkle 0.771 1.035 1m09.579s 35
Uwe Schuerkamp 0.941 2.675 1m07.596s 108
Frank H Koenig 1.163 1.537 1m10.537s 33
Mark Seery 1.666 4.888 1m08.342s 36
Jimmy De Plecker 2.269 3.654 1m10.630s 43
D. Johnson 3.496 4.759 1m12.622s 72
Don Watson 4.391 5.750 1m16.026s 6
All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)
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GPL Boxing Day Grand Prix results at Watkins Glen
Results were posted from a full-length, two-hour GPL race at Watkins Glen, won by Neil Charlton ahead of Uwe Schuerkamp and Jan Verschueren. Drivers shared race stories and setup notes about fuel load and ride height, and Neil posted the race newspaper. Others discussed screenshot problems in GPL's Direct3D renderer.
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Wow a 2hr race, congrats to the guys that finished :)
dan
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> Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003
>
> RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps)
>
> Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race TimeDiff
> 1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s
> 2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s45.142s
> 3 10 Jan Verschueren Brabham BEL 107 121m38.056s 1lap(s)
> 4 16 D. Johnson Eagle CAN 72 87m39.090s 36lap(s)
> 5 9 Jimmy De Plecker BRM BEL 43 50m46.033s 65lap(s)
> 6 11 Mark Seery Ferrari IRE 36 41m06.222s 72lap(s)
> 7 8 Don McCorkle Brabham USA 35 40m55.168s 73lap(s)
> 8 14 Frank H Koenig Cooper USA 33 39m03.128s 75lap(s)
> 9 18 Don Watson Eagle USA 6 7m48.179s 02lap(s)
> 10 15 Hal Raymond Ferrari USA 3 3m39.140s 05lap(s)
> 11 3 Eldred Pickett Lotus USA 0 0m00.000s 08lap(s)
> 12 4 Eldred Pickett2 Brabham USA 0 DidNotStart 08lap(s)
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> > > Race results are unofficial > (Replay might have been saved before end of race) > > RACE FASTEST LAPS > > Pos Driver Time Lap > 1 Neil Charlton 1m05.861s 105 > 2 Uwe Schuerkamp 1m06.282s 86 > 3 Mark Seery 1m06.780s 30 > 4 Jan Verschueren 1m07.043s 78 > 5 Jimmy De Plecker 1m08.065s 32 > 6 Don McCorkle 1m08.174s 32 > 7 D. Johnson 1m08.554s 56 > 8 Frank H Koenig 1m08.891s 28 > 9 Don Watson 1m10.482s 3 > 10 Hal Raymond 1m10.642s 2 > 11 Eldred Pickett No time > 12 Eldred Pickett2 No time > > > LEADERS > > Driver Laps > Neil Charlton 1-108 > > Number of lead changes: 0 > Number of leaders: 1 > > > LAPS LED > > Driver Laps led > Neil Charlton 108 > > > HIGHEST CLIMBER > > Driver Start Finish Change > Don McCorkle 12 7 5 > D. Johnson 8 4 4 > Jimmy De Plecker 7 5 2 > Frank H Koenig 9 8 1 > Jan Verschueren 4 3 1 > Don Watson 10 9 1 > Uwe Schuerkamp 2 2 0 > Neil Charlton 1 1 0 > Eldred Pickett2 11 12 -1 > Mark Seery 3 6 -3 > Hal Raymond 5 10 -5 > Eldred Pickett 6 11 -5 > > > ON TRACK LAPS > > Driver Laps/Total Percent > Uwe Schuerkamp (102/108) 94.44 > Neil Charlton (101/108) 93.52 > Jan Verschueren (95/107) 88.79 > D. Johnson (55/72) 76.39 > Jimmy De Plecker (36/43) 83.72 > Mark Seery (34/36) 94.44 > Don McCorkle (33/35) 94.29 > Frank H Koenig (31/33) 93.94 > Don Watson (4/6) 66.67 > Hal Raymond (2/3) 66.67 > > > RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY > (first lap excluded) > > Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime Laps > Neil Charlton 0.410 0.922 1m07.178s 108 > Hal Raymond 0.488 0.488 1m11.130s 3 > Jan Verschueren 0.588 1.303 1m08.136s 107 > Don McCorkle 0.771 1.035 1m09.579s 35 > Uwe Schuerkamp 0.941 2.675 1m07.596s 108 > Frank H Koenig 1.163 1.537 1m10.537s 33 > Mark Seery 1.666 4.888 1m08.342s 36 > Jimmy De Plecker 2.269 3.654 1m10.630s 43 > D. Johnson 3.496 4.759 1m12.622s 72 > Don Watson 4.391 5.750 1m16.026s 6 > > > All times are unofficial > (Replay might have been saved before end of race) > > Generated with GPL Replay Analyser > > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61In article <[email hidden]>, Uwe
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Congrats, Neil! Did anyone save the newspaper?
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>Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003 > >RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps) > >Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time >Diff > 1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s > > 2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s >45.142s > 3 10 Jan Verschueren Brabham BEL 107 121m38.056s 1 >lap(s) > 4 16 D. Johnson Eagle CAN 72 87m39.090s 36 >lap(s) > 5 9 Jimmy De Plecker BRM BEL 43 50m46.033s 65 >lap(s) > 6 11 Mark Seery Ferrari IRE 36 41m06.222s 72 >lap(s) > 7 8 Don McCorkle Brabham USA 35 40m55.168s 73 >lap(s) > 8 14 Frank H Koenig Cooper USA 33 39m03.128s 75 >lap(s) > 9 18 Don Watson Eagle USA 6 7m48.179s 02 >lap(s) >10 15 Hal Raymond Ferrari USA 3 3m39.140s 05 >lap(s) >11 3 Eldred Pickett Lotus USA 0 0m00.000s 08 >lap(s) >12 4 Eldred Pickett2 Brabham USA 0 DidNotStart 08 >lap(s)WTG Neil! Congrats.
RASCAR drivers sweep the podium great job.
Mitch
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> Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003 > > RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps) > > Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time > Diff > 1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s > 2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s > 45.142s > 3 10 Jan Verschueren Brabham BEL 107 121m38.056s > 1 lap(s) > 4 16 D. Johnson Eagle CAN 72 87m39.090s > 36 lap(s) > 5 9 Jimmy De Plecker BRM BEL 43 50m46.033s > 65 lap(s) > 6 11 Mark Seery Ferrari IRE 36 41m06.222s > 72 lap(s) > 7 8 Don McCorkle Brabham USA 35 40m55.168s > 73 lap(s) > 8 14 Frank H Koenig Cooper USA 33 39m03.128s > 75 lap(s) > 9 18 Don Watson Eagle USA 6 7m48.179s > 02 lap(s) > 10 15 Hal Raymond Ferrari USA 3 3m39.140s > 05 lap(s) > 11 3 Eldred Pickett Lotus USA 0 0m00.000s > 08 lap(s) > 12 4 Eldred Pickett2 Brabham USA 0 DidNotStart > 08 lap(s) > > > Race results are unofficial > (Replay might have been saved before end of race) > > RACE FASTEST LAPS > > Pos Driver Time Lap > 1 Neil Charlton 1m05.861s 105 > 2 Uwe Schuerkamp 1m06.282s 86 > 3 Mark Seery 1m06.780s 30 > 4 Jan Verschueren 1m07.043s 78 > 5 Jimmy De Plecker 1m08.065s 32 > 6 Don McCorkle 1m08.174s 32 > 7 D. Johnson 1m08.554s 56 > 8 Frank H Koenig 1m08.891s 28 > 9 Don Watson 1m10.482s 3 > 10 Hal Raymond 1m10.642s 2 > 11 Eldred Pickett No time > 12 Eldred Pickett2 No time > > > LEADERS > > Driver Laps > Neil Charlton 1-108 > > Number of lead changes: 0 > Number of leaders: 1 > > > LAPS LED > > Driver Laps led > Neil Charlton 108 > > > HIGHEST CLIMBER > > Driver Start Finish Change > Don McCorkle 12 7 5 > D. Johnson 8 4 4 > Jimmy De Plecker 7 5 2 > Frank H Koenig 9 8 1 > Jan Verschueren 4 3 1 > Don Watson 10 9 1 > Uwe Schuerkamp 2 2 0 > Neil Charlton 1 1 0 > Eldred Pickett2 11 12 -1 > Mark Seery 3 6 -3 > Hal Raymond 5 10 -5 > Eldred Pickett 6 11 -5 > > > ON TRACK LAPS > > Driver Laps/Total Percent > Uwe Schuerkamp (102/108) 94.44 > Neil Charlton (101/108) 93.52 > Jan Verschueren (95/107) 88.79 > D. Johnson (55/72) 76.39 > Jimmy De Plecker (36/43) 83.72 > Mark Seery (34/36) 94.44 > Don McCorkle (33/35) 94.29 > Frank H Koenig (31/33) 93.94 > Don Watson (4/6) 66.67 > Hal Raymond (2/3) 66.67 > > > RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY > (first lap excluded) > > Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime > Laps > Neil Charlton 0.410 0.922 1m07.178s > 108 > Hal Raymond 0.488 0.488 1m11.130s > 3 > Jan Verschueren 0.588 1.303 1m08.136s > 107 > Don McCorkle 0.771 1.035 1m09.579s > 35 > Uwe Schuerkamp 0.941 2.675 1m07.596s > 108 > Frank H Koenig 1.163 1.537 1m10.537s > 33 > Mark Seery 1.666 4.888 1m08.342s > 36 > Jimmy De Plecker 2.269 3.654 1m10.630s > 43 > D. Johnson 3.496 4.759 1m12.622s > 72 > Don Watson 4.391 5.750 1m16.026s > 6 > > All times are unofficial > (Replay might have been saved before end of race) > > Generated with GPL Replay Analyser > > >
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> Congrats, Neil! Did anyone save the newspaper?
Thx Eldred. Yeah - I mailed it to you at aol along with the export straight
after the race :)
[snip]
Thx Eldred. Yeah - I mailed it to you at aol along with the export straight
after the race :)
Thx Mitch - was a lot of fun. Uwe was amazingly consistent - the gap didn't
vary by a second lap after lap after lap ... Just like the old MoG days. I
must admit though, I had forgotten just how unstable these damn things
were - scared myself to death several times ;)
cya at Dega
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> WTG Neil! Congrats. > > RASCAR drivers sweep the podium great job. > > Mitch > > > <<<<---- Posted using Pineapple News for BeOS ---->>>> > > Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > > Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003 > > > > RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps) > > > > Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time > > Diff > > 1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s > > 2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s > > 45.142s > > 3 10 Jan Verschueren Brabham BEL 107 121m38.056s > > 1 lap(s) > > 4 16 D. Johnson Eagle CAN 72 87m39.090s > > 36 lap(s) > > 5 9 Jimmy De Plecker BRM BEL 43 50m46.033s > > 65 lap(s) > > 6 11 Mark Seery Ferrari IRE 36 41m06.222s > > 72 lap(s) > > 7 8 Don McCorkle Brabham USA 35 40m55.168s > > 73 lap(s) > > 8 14 Frank H Koenig Cooper USA 33 39m03.128s > > 75 lap(s) > > 9 18 Don Watson Eagle USA 6 7m48.179s > > 02 lap(s) > > 10 15 Hal Raymond Ferrari USA 3 3m39.140s > > 05 lap(s) > > 11 3 Eldred Pickett Lotus USA 0 0m00.000s > > 08 lap(s) > > 12 4 Eldred Pickett2 Brabham USA 0 DidNotStart > > 08 lap(s) > > > > > > Race results are unofficial > > (Replay might have been saved before end of race) > > > > RACE FASTEST LAPS > > > > Pos Driver Time Lap > > 1 Neil Charlton 1m05.861s 105 > > 2 Uwe Schuerkamp 1m06.282s 86 > > 3 Mark Seery 1m06.780s 30 > > 4 Jan Verschueren 1m07.043s 78 > > 5 Jimmy De Plecker 1m08.065s 32 > > 6 Don McCorkle 1m08.174s 32 > > 7 D. Johnson 1m08.554s 56 > > 8 Frank H Koenig 1m08.891s 28 > > 9 Don Watson 1m10.482s 3 > > 10 Hal Raymond 1m10.642s 2 > > 11 Eldred Pickett No time > > 12 Eldred Pickett2 No time > > > > > > LEADERS > > > > Driver Laps > > Neil Charlton 1-108 > > > > Number of lead changes: 0 > > Number of leaders: 1 > > > > > > LAPS LED > > > > Driver Laps led > > Neil Charlton 108 > > > > > > HIGHEST CLIMBER > > > > Driver Start Finish Change > > Don McCorkle 12 7 5 > > D. Johnson 8 4 4 > > Jimmy De Plecker 7 5 2 > > Frank H Koenig 9 8 1 > > Jan Verschueren 4 3 1 > > Don Watson 10 9 1 > > Uwe Schuerkamp 2 2 0 > > Neil Charlton 1 1 0 > > Eldred Pickett2 11 12 -1 > > Mark Seery 3 6 -3 > > Hal Raymond 5 10 -5 > > Eldred Pickett 6 11 -5 > > > > > > ON TRACK LAPS > > > > Driver Laps/Total Percent > > Uwe Schuerkamp (102/108) 94.44 > > Neil Charlton (101/108) 93.52 > > Jan Verschueren (95/107) 88.79 > > D. Johnson (55/72) 76.39 > > Jimmy De Plecker (36/43) 83.72 > > Mark Seery (34/36) 94.44 > > Don McCorkle (33/35) 94.29 > > Frank H Koenig (31/33) 93.94 > > Don Watson (4/6) 66.67 > > Hal Raymond (2/3) 66.67 > > > > > > RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY > > (first lap excluded) > > > > Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime > > Laps > > Neil Charlton 0.410 0.922 1m07.178s > > 108 > > Hal Raymond 0.488 0.488 1m11.130s > > 3 > > Jan Verschueren 0.588 1.303 1m08.136s > > 107 > > Don McCorkle 0.771 1.035 1m09.579s > > 35 > > Uwe Schuerkamp 0.941 2.675 1m07.596s > > 108 > > Frank H Koenig 1.163 1.537 1m10.537s > > 33 > > Mark Seery 1.666 4.888 1m08.342s > > 36 > > Jimmy De Plecker 2.269 3.654 1m10.630s > > 43 > > D. Johnson 3.496 4.759 1m12.622s > > 72 > > Don Watson 4.391 5.750 1m16.026s > > 6 > > > > All times are unofficial > > (Replay might have been saved before end of race) > > > > Generated with GPL Replay Analyser > > > > > >In article <bshs57$ddifn$[email hidden]>, "Dan_Leach"
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>Wow a 2hr race, congrats to the guys that finished :)
It happens all the time, Dan.<g>
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>WTG Neil! Congrats.
>
>RASCAR drivers sweep the podium great job.
>
Ah, they're just lucky. I was planning to win this one...
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to have a talk with my !@#$ mechanics...
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Ah, they're just lucky. I was planning to win this one...
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In article <bsi6c0$h8o$[email hidden]>, "Neil Charlton"
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>> Congrats, Neil! Did anyone save the newspaper?
>
>Thx Eldred. Yeah - I mailed it to you at aol along with the export straight
>after the race :)
Haven't seen it yet. Maybe it got lost in the ether...?
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:42:22 +0000 (UTC), Neil Charlton wrote:
> Thx Mitch - was a lot of fun. Uwe was amazingly consistent - the gap didn't
> vary by a second lap after lap after lap ... Just like the old MoG days. I
> must admit though, I had forgotten just how unstable these damn things
> were - scared myself to death several times ;)
>
Thanks Neil and Mitch. This was my first ever full length GP, and
looking at the stats it is hard to believe we raced for two straight
hours.
Neil was in control throughout the race though and kept a good pace
until the very end. He went wide at bit before entering the 90 on lap
two or three, and that was realistically my only chance to pull close,
great job Neil!
Also thanks to Mark Seery who I probably scared shitless when moving
over to the right of the track to let him by into 2nd place early on
in the race. No harm was done or meant, but still sorry for the
unexpected move Mark! You would have been way up there if you had
finished the race in your red thundering steed.
I managed to beat up my steering by juuust clipping the guardrail in
the esses (dont we all ;-) and really had to fight to drive the
Brabham home, but man I did it and am way proud of it! Two hours of
GPL!!!
After extracting myself from my bent-up office chair, my wife had one
sentence for me: "You're crazy." 8)
Cheers to all who participated and eased the pain by sharing it,
esp. Neil and Jan. The boys and the men, remember? And of course
eldi-mate for hosting this monster of a race.
This race has prepared me for what's to come: watching RotK with my
near-13 year old tomorrow at the local cinema ;-)
uwe
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On 26 Dec 2003 17:50:04 GMT, EldredP wrote:
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> Congrats, Neil! Did anyone save the newspaper?
>
> Eldred
I tried, but ever since switching to opengl / dx rendering the print
screen button produces 0 byte sized files in GPL 8(
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"Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Thx Mitch - was a lot of fun. Uwe was amazingly consistent - the gapdidn't
> vary by a second lap after lap after lap ... Just like the old MoG days. I
> must admit though, I had forgotten just how unstable these damn things
> were - scared myself to death several times ;)
Yep. Long time since I drove a F1 car. I thought I had the legs on you at
one stage, Neil. That was just before I went the wrong side of the knife
edge at T3. Well done bud...
MS
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> <snip>
> Haven't seen it yet. Maybe it got lost in the ether...?
No, it got lost in the darkest recesses of my mind. I mistakenly informed
Mr. Charlton your E-mail is epickett "at" aol "dot" com, while, of course,
it is actually eldredp "at" aol "dot" com. DOH!!
Apologies,
Jan.
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> > <snip>
> Yep. Long time since I drove a F1 car. I thought I had the
> legs on you at one stage, Neil. That was just before I went
> the wrong side of the knife edge at T3. Well done bud...
You sure had speed in the early going... after about 10 laps I was losing 1
to 2 seconds per lap and I started thinking "I have to contain this somehow
or I'll get lapped by everyone ahead of me!" from then on it was just
push-push-push!! -Ye gods, where are the days you just had to stay on the
road to finish well in these things? -As of lap 12, I think, I was driving
100% all the time. E.g., when Neil came up to lap me, I had to devote some
attention to his closure rate in order not to trip him up. I promptly locked
up going over the hump braking for The Loop and backed it into the straw
bales (luckily with minimum damage). Looking at the lap data, on average, I
lapped about 0.5s quicker than I was planning to and still got completely
outclassed. That's bearable if you're actually racing some of the other
competitors, but when the only guys you're racing are ahead and pulling away
108 laps is a long haul!
The car didn't help matters either, as it gave me all kinds of grief (one
lap it wouldn't turn, the next it overresponded etc...). I'd need to be able
to have 53,5% front brake bias and another 0,5 click of rebound all round to
make this setup comfortable. The shock situation is not too bad to live with
(only scary if you get in a bit too hot), but the brake bias thing is giving
me fits. 53% is too little for a full tank (rear wheels lock first if you
brake hard), but if I put in 54% I get inside front lock-ups about 20 laps
into a GP. So I thought I'd live with the 53% until the car "came in". Thing
is: it never did. Very strange as 53% works well if you start the car off
on, say, 15 gallons of fuel, but I kept having rear brake and rear tire drag
issues until the very last laps of the race having started it with 43
gallons.
Anyhow, good race, pity about the grid size and the number of DNFs. Thanks
for hosting Eldred.
Jan.
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The car gets higher as you use fuel, but your initial ride height is set
with respect to your current fuel load. So at the end of the race your 43
gal. setup should feel about the same as if you started with 15 gal. of fuel
and perhaps a half inch higher ride height. Higher CG requires more front
brake bias.
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> 53% is too little for a full tank (rear wheels lock first if you
> brake hard), but if I put in 54% I get inside front lock-ups about 20 laps
> into a GP. So I thought I'd live with the 53% until the car "came in".Thing
> is: it never did. Very strange as 53% works well if you start the car off
> on, say, 15 gallons of fuel, but I kept having rear brake and rear tiredrag
> issues until the very last laps of the race having started it with 43
> gallons.
>
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:40:08 +0100, Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?=
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Neil!
congrats~ i miss you man :D
and Uwe!
what a great 1-2 finish....
bo bruce
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>Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003 > >RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps) > >Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff > 1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s > 2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s 45.142sQuoted text (10 lines)
> >Generated with GPL Replay Analyser > > > >-- >mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) >Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ >Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) >GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61On 26 Dec 2003 21:32:21 GMT, EldredP wrote:
Be easy on the guys. My team had to spend two full hours in those
wind-torn cheap excuses for a pit at the Glen and only got some kind
of heating back when the hot Brabham returned to its stable ;-)
Uwe
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> In article <[email hidden]>, Mitch_A <[email hidden]> > writes: > >>WTG Neil! Congrats. >> >>RASCAR drivers sweep the podium great job. >> > > Ah, they're just lucky. I was planning to win this one... > Now if you'll excuse me, I have to have a talk with my !@#$ mechanics...Funny thing is, I was sure you had the legs on me Mark. You appeared P2 out
of nowhere and I thought 'bugger'. Then you disappeared and I breathed a big
sigh ;)
TTFN
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> "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Thx Mitch - was a lot of fun. Uwe was amazingly consistent - the gap
> didn't
> > vary by a second lap after lap after lap ... Just like the old MoG days.I
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> > must admit though, I had forgotten just how unstable these damn things > > were - scared myself to death several times ;) > > Yep. Long time since I drove a F1 car. I thought I had the legs on you at > one stage, Neil. That was just before I went the wrong side of the knife > edge at T3. Well done bud... > > MS > >
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> The car didn't help matters either, as it gave me all kinds of grief (one
> lap it wouldn't turn, the next it overresponded etc...). I'd need to beable
> to have 53,5% front brake bias and another 0,5 click of rebound all roundto
> make this setup comfortable. The shock situation is not too bad to livewith
> (only scary if you get in a bit too hot), but the brake bias thing isgiving
> me fits. 53% is too little for a full tank (rear wheels lock first if you
> brake hard), but if I put in 54% I get inside front lock-ups about 20 laps
> into a GP. So I thought I'd live with the 53% until the car "came in".Thing
> is: it never did. Very strange as 53% works well if you start the car off
> on, say, 15 gallons of fuel, but I kept having rear brake and rear tiredrag
> issues until the very last laps of the race having started it with 43
> gallons.
>
I get the same feeling Jan - I just whacked it to 56 and at least I knew I
would always have to modulate it and only ever worry about the front end ;)
Thanks for the courtesy when passing. You really didn't have to park it in a
bale for me though ;)
Regards
Here we go:
http://www.skidmarkracing.org.uk/downloads/RASGlenPaper.gif
http://www.skidmarkracing.org.uk/downloads/rasglen.html
Regards
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> In article <bsi6c0$h8o$[email hidden]>, "Neil Charlton"
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> >> Congrats, Neil! Did anyone save the newspaper?
> >
> >Thx Eldred. Yeah - I mailed it to you at aol along with the exportstraight
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> >after the race :) > > Haven't seen it yet. Maybe it got lost in the ether...? > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Member > Screamers Racing League > IICC League > GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 > ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 > Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress > N2k3 rank:in progress > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.Hey Bo - Merry Xmas and all that stuff. Great to hear from you. Hope all are
well.
Regards
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> > 1 17 Neil Charlton Brabham GBR 108 121m01.188s
> > 2 2 Uwe Schuerkamp Brabham GER 108 121m46.330s45.142s
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> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:40:08 +0100, Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Track: Watglen Fri Dec 26 17:24:52 2003 > > > >RACE RESULTS (After 108 laps) > > > >Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race TimeQuoted text (19 lines)
> Neil! > congrats~ i miss you man :D > and Uwe! > > what a great 1-2 finish.... > bo bruce > > > > > >Generated with GPL Replay Analyser > > > > > > > >-- > >mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > >Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > >Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > >GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 >In article <MB2Hb.98034$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren"
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>No, it got lost in the darkest recesses of my mind. I mistakenly informed
>Mr. Charlton your E-mail is epickett "at" aol "dot" com, while, of course,
>it is actually eldredp "at" aol "dot" com. DOH!!
Hehe. Ok, so let's all blame Jan... :-)
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=?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> writes:
>Thanks Neil and Mitch. This was my first ever full length GP, and
>looking at the stats it is hard to believe we raced for two straight
>hours.
I have a 22-lap race at the Ring today, so two hours is NOTHING...<g>
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=?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> writes:
>I tried, but ever since switching to opengl / dx rendering the print
>screen button produces 0 byte sized files in GPL 8(
Yeah, my system is the same. We need another program, but I haven't tried it
yet, and don't remember the name anymore. Maybe Fraps will do it?
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In article <Y73Hb.98073$%[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren"
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>That's bearable if you're actually racing some of the other
>competitors, but when the only guys you're racing are ahead and pulling away
>108 laps is a long haul!
Yeah, I know *that* feeling...
>Anyhow, good race, pity about the grid size and the number of DNFs. Thanks
>for hosting Eldred.
You're welcome.
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tried it
> yet, and don't remember the name anymore. Maybe Fraps will do it?
If it's just for occasional screengrabs (like the newspaper) I press
printscreen (not F12), exit gpl, open up Paintshop Pro or any other
graphics program and paste to a new image. Save that & you have your
screenshot ;-)
Of course you can only get one pic at a time this way.
Malc.
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> In article <[email hidden]>, Uwe > =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I tried, but ever since switching to opengl / dx rendering the print > >screen button produces 0 byte sized files in GPL 8( > > Yeah, my system is the same. We need another program, but I haven'tIn article <9ZhHb.5557$[email hidden]>, "Malc"
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Doh - I misread the previous message. I'm running d3d, and hitting printscreen
just gives me a 0k file. So, I need a different program to do it.
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