VROC used to be fun...

...But today, in a span of 1 hour, I joined 5 races and was crashed out in all 5 before turn 3 due to others impatience. Considering retirement. I feel that some folks racing online would be better suited for Powerslide. -- the 5th Doctor . . . (the first 4 Doctors are quacks) Rx; two Chee-tos every two minutes followed by intense ***. take with soda. Adjust setup and sound for pain.

Join a racing league! In a racing league, If you***up and crash on the first lap because of your impatience, You wont be driving in that league again. Or, another way to say it... You'll find drivers in those leagues that really want to race and you wont find a single driver that wants to win on the first lap. Trust me, You'll enjoy every minute of each race in your league. Enough to want to join more then one. Mike Barlow

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> ...But today, in a span of 1 hour, I joined 5 races and was crashed out in > all 5 before turn 3 due to others impatience. Considering retirement. I > feel that some folks racing online would be better suited for Powerslide. > -- > the 5th Doctor . . . (the first 4 Doctors are quacks) > Rx; two Chee-tos every two minutes followed by intense ***. > take with soda. Adjust setup and sound for pain.

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On Tue, 18 May 1999 18:28:59 +0100, "Mark Seery" >:BTW. I'm nowhere near the pace of Christer and Jake but I did finish third >:at Mexico. Where the hell did the two guys who overtook me into t1 on lap 1 >:end their races? >: >:Mark >: All I can say is the accident happened well in FRONT of me... As I remember, you qualified at 2:12xx and Mike and I at 2:13xx. We 3 (behind CA and Jake) composed the top 5 if memory serves me. I *think* I slowed and went wide in T1 to let a speeder by on the inside, but would LOVE to see the 1st minute or so of the race. I thought the leaders got tangled up.. While i'm thinking of it, is there a way to save certain parts of a replay, and where is that split screen replay player I read about somewhere? Thx G. Patricks

On Mon, 17 May 1999 23:15:05 -0400, Michael Barlow Mike - even IN a league it happens often enough. Case in point -- saturday's Mexico race. I qualified around 5th, was a clean start, came into Turn 1 and saw cars heading for the stratosphere in front of me! Now this was with possibly the two hottest F3 drivers out there, <kudos to Jake and C. Anderson> so again, it happens to the "best" of us.. G. Patricks

Yes, it does still happen, I never looked back at the replay, Since I didn't see anyone infront of me spinning, and I felt a tap from behind just before I heard all the tire screeching, I think that my braking early to avoid a T1 accident may have been the cause. :-( Either way, YES, it still does happen every now and then. You do have to admit though, it happens less often in league races then in pick up races :-) C-ya on the track, Mike Barlow

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> On Mon, 17 May 1999 23:15:05 -0400, Michael Barlow > Mike - even IN a league it happens often enough. Case in point -- > saturday's Mexico race. I qualified around 5th, was a clean start, > came into Turn 1 and saw cars heading for the stratosphere in front of > me! Now this was with possibly the two hottest F3 drivers out there, > <kudos to Jake and C. Anderson> so again, it happens to the "best" of > us.. > >: Join a racing league! In a racing league, If you***up and crash on the > >:first lap because of your impatience, You wont be driving in that league > >:again. Or, another way to say it... You'll find drivers in those leagues > >:that really want to race and you wont find a single driver that wants to win > >:on the first lap. > >: > >: Trust me, You'll enjoy every minute of each race in your league. Enough to > >:want to join more then one. > >: > >:Mike Barlow > G. Patricks

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On Tue, 18 May 1999 11:04:05 -0400, Michael Barlow I agree it does happen less, just wanted the poster not to expect perfection no matter where he races (ESPECIALLY if he races with me!) The reality of pick-up races is, for me, to start at the back and stay there until things get going. Its easier to lace through accidents than recover from one... G. Patricks

Actually, I need to see a replay of the start to this race. <Mike> ? I explicitly demand that people hold station for the first two corners of any GPML race. It is stessed in the drivers briefing minutes before we connect. The reasons for this rule are pretty obvious. Those who are in front on the grid are there for a reason. In an intermediate long race the quick guys are going to be lapping the slower cars with ease. Why the hell these slower drivers with qualifying times in excess of 2 secs from pole still insist On trying to carve through the field is beyond all reason to me. BTW. I'm nowhere near the pace of Christer and Jake but I did finish third at Mexico. Where the hell did the two guys who overtook me into t1 on lap 1 end their races? Mark

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> On Mon, 17 May 1999 23:15:05 -0400, Michael Barlow > Mike - even IN a league it happens often enough. Case in point -- > saturday's Mexico race. I qualified around 5th, was a clean start, > came into Turn 1 and saw cars heading for the stratosphere in front of > me! Now this was with possibly the two hottest F3 drivers out there, > <kudos to Jake and C. Anderson> so again, it happens to the "best" of > us..

Well said Mark, we in the GMSS try to abide by a similiar system as that as well. We don't have any firm rules about not overtaking in the 1st couple of corners, but as you said, the guys in front of you on the grid are there because they put a faster qualifying lap in than the guys behind them, regardless whether it was through skill or luck, they still deserved to be there. If the guys behind are such hot shoes, they have plenty of time to prove it over the course of the race. If more people respected the guys in front of them on the grid, then a lot less accidents would be occuring at the start of a race. Nothing pees me of more than a guy a couple of rows back deciding to be a hero from the line and 99.9 % of the time ends up taking out the guys who qualified in front of him.. As you guys allready said, sometimes incidents still happen even in league races, but it is a much rarer thing than it is in pick-up races.. Sounds like you have your F3 league well under way now Mark, hope you are having fun with these beasts.. I still think this is the best racing to be had on-line with GPL. :) Congratulations on getting this off the ground.. Cheers, Ron

Sounds like you have your F3 league well under way now Mark, hope you Thanks for the encouragement Ron. The effort has been worth it .Thanks go out to the guys really who have helped me out along the way. Notably Mike Barlow and Gary Patricks. I have never had so much fun behind a virtual wheel.... period :-) Cheers Mark

On Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:30 +0100, "Mark Seery" Mark - Its been a pleasure to be affiliated and race <synonym for get whooped ;-) > with you guys... And Mike, if your out there, my offer still stands to set up a weeknight (EST) F3 league, web site, etc. if you will host the races. It seems I always just miss your pick-up F3 races on VROC!! G. Patricks

I'm working on this.. I'm going to try to convince the Race Communications Association (one of my sponsors) to set up a racing series. I don't think I'll have any luck because of the last corporation I talked to (GP race April 11th) ended up not wanting to do it. But, Because I knew the right people for many years, I think I have a better chance at it this time. Mike Barlow

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> On Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:30 +0100, "Mark Seery" > Mark - > Its been a pleasure to be affiliated and race <synonym for get whooped > ;-) > with you guys... > And Mike, if your out there, my offer still stands to set up a > weeknight (EST) F3 league, web site, etc. if you will host the races. > It seems I always just miss your pick-up F3 races on VROC!! > >: > >:Sounds like you have your F3 league well under way now Mark, hope you > >:> are having fun with these beasts.. > >: > >:Thanks for the encouragement Ron. The effort has been worth it .Thanks go > >:out to the guys really who have helped me out along the way. Notably Mike > >:Barlow and Gary Patricks. I have never had so much fun behind a virtual > >:wheel.... period :-) > >: > >: > >:Cheers > >: > >:Mark > >: > >: > G. Patricks

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Might they have wanted to pull out because of the lack of finishers in the GP ? The war of attrition that it turned out to be might have turned them off A full field of F3 cars, all battling with each other all the way down the field might provide a lot more interest to the casual viewer. Mark > I'm working on this.. I'm going to try to convince the Race Communications > Association (one of my sponsors) to set up a racing series. I don't think I'll > have any luck because of the last corporation I talked to (GP race April 11th) > ended up not wanting to do it. But, Because I knew the right people for many

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> years, I think I have a better chance at it this time. > Mike Barlow > > On Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:30 +0100, "Mark Seery" > > Mark - > > Its been a pleasure to be affiliated and race <synonym for get whooped > > ;-) > with you guys... > > And Mike, if your out there, my offer still stands to set up a > > weeknight (EST) F3 league, web site, etc. if you will host the races. > > It seems I always just miss your pick-up F3 races on VROC!! > > >: > > >:Sounds like you have your F3 league well under way now Mark, hope you > > >:> are having fun with these beasts.. > > >: > > >:Thanks for the encouragement Ron. The effort has been worth it .Thanks

go > > >:out to the guys really who have helped me out along the way. Notably Mike > > >:Barlow and Gary Patricks. I have never had so much fun behind a virtual

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> > >:wheel.... period :-) > > >: > > >: > > >:Cheers > > >: > > >:Mark > > >: > > >: > > G. Patricks > -- > ========================================= > Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > ========================================= > Member of R.O.R. 1999 > http://www.pivot.net/~marknjess/ror.html > ========================================= > Racing online with the help of...... > Race Communications Association > http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > Holodyne Engineering > Mystic Music