So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

Well????? from one very depressed TNT2 owner, who hasn't been able to get GPL running for a month.

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:41:18 +1000, Paul, why did you buy your TNT2 video card, knowing the situation with GPL non-support, and the 'depression' you would have if it didn't perform as you wished? Just curious. -- // email: rrevved at mindspring dot com

Ed (rrevved), Because I saw both cards in action, and I was more impressed with the TNT2. Plus the price! I could buy the Viper770 32mb for $319.00 or a V3 2000 with 16mb for $300.00. The 3dfx board prices in Australia are disgusting. I honestly didn't think that I would have hassles running GPL. I knew there was an openGL beta patch, which I thought would allow me to continue to play GPL. And with 1.1 coming out, I figured that they would provide full support for OpenGL or Direct3d. They put out a Beta patch so you would think that it wouldn't remain beta forever. Some people have no hassles running the game on TNT/TNT2 boards, but I'm not having much luck. I've got a few ideas to try over the next few days so I'm hopeing it'll work. The Nvidia 1.88 drivers definately gave me more problems. Have you heard any word on wether the 1.1 patch will have better support?

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> On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:41:18 +1000, > >Well????? > >from one very depressed TNT2 owner, who hasn't been able to get GPL

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> >for a month. > Paul, why did you buy your TNT2 video card, knowing the situation > with GPL non-support, and the 'depression' you would have if it > didn't perform as you wished? > Just curious. > -- > // email: rrevved at mindspring dot com

My advice: get a cheap Voodoo2 board from someone and throw it in. That way you can run both D3D games with your new TNT2 and older Glide-only games with the Voodoo2. The one good thing in V3 cards is that they bring down the price of older V2s and Banshees.

I agree - with a PII350 (like mine) or something like it, a single V2 is enough to get nice gfx and 36fps (except at the start, or when running 19 AI) in 800x600. You should be able to find V2's for under $100 now! :) Ciaoooooo! ;) -- Roland

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:01:39 +1000, "Paul Malynn" >:Ed (rrevved), >: >:Because I saw both cards in action, and I was more impressed with the TNT2. >:Plus the price! I could buy the Viper770 32mb for $319.00 or a V3 2000 with >:16mb for $300.00. The 3dfx board prices in Australia are disgusting. >: Yikes! The TNT2 32meg is under $200 all over the net! G. Patricks

Wow! a V3 2000 for $300.00!! Sorry to say but that is a "rip-off!" buycom sells them for $94 US.. Sounds like pricing fixing to me in Australia!? Bad new! Really bad!! How much do think the TNT2 Ultra will sell for down under.. $500+?? I feel this is bad business! Thom_j. <snipped>

I suspect that there a several flavours of $ all over the World: Canadian, Australian, Hongkong (?) and about 50+ others states ... -- Matthias Flatt

You're still being ripped off though. Even with UK tax at 17.5% we're only paying 150ukp (about 225 USD) for a 3000...and that's a street price. Maybe the antipodean V3's are supplied in a lead box or something, which might account for the apparently vast shipping costs. Andrew McP

The Diamond Viper770 32 mb Ultra sells for $455.00 Australian, but there are no stocks in this country yet because the factory can't supply the Australian distributors, because of USA demand. 2 or 3 weeks to go. Buy.com have a great price on stuff. When you convert it to Australian dollars, it ends up being heaps cheaper...... The catch is they don't ship international orders................and CUSTOMS duty of 22%

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> Wow! a V3 2000 for $300.00!! Sorry to say but that is a "rip-off!" > buycom sells them for $94 US.. Sounds like pricing fixing to me in > Australia!? Bad new! Really bad!! How much do think the TNT2 > Ultra will sell for down under.. $500+?? I feel this is bad business! > Thom_j. > > Ed (rrevved), > > Because I saw both cards in action, and I was more impressed with the > TNT2. > > Plus the price! I could buy the Viper770 32mb for $319.00 or a V3 2000 > with > > 16mb for $300.00. The 3dfx board prices in Australia are disgusting. > <snipped>

Situation in NZ is just as bad - a V3 3000 was retailing for NZD 650 at a computer city chain store. Thats USD 338. (We do have a Goods and Services Tax of 12.5% which doesnt help -a tax that Australia is soon to be enjoying too - heheh). As people have said, there is little improvement over a voodoo2 to a v3 for GPL, or even from a voodoo2 to sli - spend the money on a faster cpu or a better wheel. Yes its a shame that theres seems to be no online stores now that can offer acceptable deals for International orders - many won't accept credit cards, or only ship UPS or Fedex, and USD 50 plus is a bit steep for a 2 pound video card. I purchased my CH Pedals from shopping.com and saved 40% on retail price here, because they do ship US Parcel Post Air, but unfortunately they are now not allowing international orders at present. Julian

No. > Well????? > from one very depressed TNT2 owner, who hasn't been able to get GPL running > for a month.