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are there any wheel/pedal-combos out there with a clutch-pedal in addition to the usual throttle and brake? -- Gunnar de vakreste ord p? jord: saldo i Deres fav?r

Yes. TSW has a clutch pedal. The TSW2 modified comes standard with the clutch for $350.00 I believe. Great buy. Scott PA-Scott High Gear Editor - "The View" - http://www.simracingnews.com G.T.S. Racing - http://www.GTS-Racing.com -- Scott B. Husted Marketing and Administrative Manager Riegel Federal Credit Union http://www.riegelfcu.org ICQ# 4395450

TSW is an acronym I'm not familiar with. does TSW have a website? -- Gunnar -- '98 Super Primerbird '92 G00F2 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo: 2 de vakreste ord p? jord: saldo i Deres fav?r

Im sorry <G> http://www.thomas-superwheel.com Scott PA-Scott High Gear Editor - "The View" - http://www.simracingnews.com G.T.S. Racing - http://www.GTS-Racing.com -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

>are there any wheel/pedal-combos out there with a clutch-pedal in >addition to the usual throttle and brake? >-- >Gunnar > de vakreste ord p? jord: saldo i Deres fav?r Hello Gunnar I build steering/pedal units which has a analog clutch as standard. Check out at http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/System/9045/ Remember prices are in New Zealand dollars. -- Redline Race Controls http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/System/9045/ Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports Hamilton New Zealand

Gunnar, ECCI also offers a clutch pedal as a modular add on component to the standard CDS4000 product. This is because in sim-racing the clutch is not very useful... it only has a beneficial effect at race starts. Lap times are better if you use a 'semi-automatic' shift approach (as in F1) during the rest of the race. ECCI offers high quality paddle shif maechanisms for this reason. Andy Cers ECCI http://www.ecci.net > are there any wheel/pedal-combos out there with a clutch-pedal in > addition to the usual throttle and brake? > -- > Gunnar > de vakreste ord p? jord: saldo i Deres fav?r

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> Gunnar, > ECCI also offers a clutch pedal as a modular add on component to the > standard CDS4000 product. This is because in sim-racing the clutch is > not very useful... it only has a beneficial effect at race starts. Lap > times are better if you use a 'semi-automatic' shift approach (as in F1) > during the rest of the race. ECCI offers high quality paddle shif > maechanisms for this reason.

Another use for the clutch (GPL) is when your spun and coasting in reverse, if you floor the gas, you wont get anything till after you have stopped, BUT, if you throw the clutch in you can rev the engine and spin the wheels to help control the spin. Someone mentioned that GPL can use the clutch but it's either "on or off" like a button and you can't slip the clutch. I don't know where he got his info but I can floor it in forth gear at a standing start and modulate the RPMs with the clutch to pick up speed. another words, It is "analog", not "just on or off". -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= Member of R.O.R. 1999 http://w3.ime.net/~marknjess/ror.html ========================================= Racing online with the help of...... Mark Seery ***sports [link lost in import] Sim Racing Mag http://www.simracingmag.com/ Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here) mikeba.vcf < 1K Download

Agreed. The clutch in GPL is not "on" "off". I too can "spin" the clutch and modulate the RPM in this manner, but, bare in mind we are dealing with a racing strength clutch in GPL and therefore it is harsher than a family sedan street car. A clutch in GPL is useful for starting starts and skid control. During the actual race I don't use it. In Viper Racing with the clutch set to manual the gears won't shift unless the clutch has been pushed in. -- Redline Race Controls http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/System/9045/ Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports Hamilton New Zealand

> x-no-archive: yes > IMO a clutch is a waste of time in a sim. It's only potential use is at the > start, but because it has no feedback, you can't feel the bite point. True, but it definitely does speed up the starts, particularly in some cars which don't have enough torque at low revs. If you just shunt it into first gear when the flag drops, with most cars the revs drop to almost nothing and you then have to wait for it to pick up speed again. With an analogue clutch, you floor the throttle and half-release the clutch, and the engine revs stay high, giving you much more power away from the line. The hard part is then to release the clutch in just the right way to keep the power down but without the wheels spinning. If you get it right it really does work - in one online race at Kyalami I started on the second row and squeezed right between the two front row cars to take the lead!