I heard a rumor ... (GPL)

That one could use the Logitech or any other FF wheel with their existing Nascar Pro Pedals. Is this true? If so, could someone let me know how it is plugged in (both pedals and wheel to the back of the PC), how it is setup in Windows 98, and how it is calibrated and setup in GPL. If possible, I may buy the Logitech ... Thanks, Phillip

Another option is to replace the pedals with your TM pedals by removing the wiring harness from the LWFF pedals and using it to rewire the TM pedals. This will void any warrenty of course, but if you don't butcher the harness, you can always put it back. There is a very good how-to written by Steve Blankenship on Alison's GPL site. http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/ look in the Controllers / Reader's Reports page. It's a very good wheel IMO, and with improved pedals it's almost perfect. don [|]-(_)-[|]

It's very simple ... the Logitech plugs into your USB or serial port. So it can be simultaneously active with a gameport wheel. Then just configure it in GPL - it doesn't care which axis & device you use for any given function. Note: this may not work in all games, but several people have reported it works fine in GPL. Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

Yup, it's true. The Nascar Pro stays connected to your gameport (you can remove the steering unit if you want). I got my LWFF this morning, set it up as per instructions (you have to keep the LWFF pedals around... they provide power for the wheel) and ran the installer (which updated the drivers and profiler automatically from the web... neat!!). The LWFF is now device 1 in the Game Controller applet (N-Pro is device 0). I got rid of the profiler as decribed by Sergey Zakharov in his "Logitech FF & memory usage tip" message and fired up GPL. It defaulted to the joystick(s) calibration screen, which now had two pages. I recalibrated gas and brake (of the N-Pro) on page one and on the second page, the steering wheel of the LWFF (axis 4 I think). All that was left for me to do was to select the LWFF for steering and define it's button and paddle fucntions. Bingo... few lines in the core.ini (see reply's to my "Question for fellow LWFF users... <vbg>") and you're good to go. BTW: if you were using an L4 to connect your N-Pro you're laughing all the way, because it's V-Stick utility recognises the LWFF. With it you can mix and match a controller for any game "on the fly", like, for instance, Midtown Madness (only recognises resources from device 0 by default). Good luck, Jan./ your mileage may vary, of course. ------

Or you could just use the pedals that come with the unit. They just take a little time to get used to.

Ya know, I heard from someone who has the peddles that.... If you put the Logitech wheel in the USB port and the T2 (pro) pedals in the gameport both are seen by GPL. You should put the Logitech wheel as joy#1 and the PRO as joy#2 in the Control Panel/ Joysticks program. This is what I heard ;-) Anyone with this setup that can confirm? Jason.

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> That one could use the Logitech or any other FF wheel with their existing > Nascar Pro Pedals. Is this true? If so, could someone let me know how it is > plugged in (both pedals and wheel to the back of the PC), how it is setup in > Windows 98, and how it is calibrated and setup in GPL. If possible, I may > buy the Logitech ... > Thanks, > Phillip

-------- Jason Monds "My other car is a Ferrari" http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

But... Can this be done for other games?? And if so, has anyone had any success ? If so which games ? SCGT, Toca2, N2, ICR2, GP2, ??? >Ya know, I heard from someone who has the peddles that.... >If you put the Logitech wheel in the USB port and the T2 (pro) pedals in the >gameport both are seen by GPL. You should put the Logitech wheel as joy#1 and

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>the PRO as joy#2 in the Control Panel/ Joysticks program. >This is what I heard ;-) >Anyone with this setup that can confirm? >Jason. >> That one could use the Logitech or any other FF wheel with their existing >> Nascar Pro Pedals. Is this true? If so, could someone let me know how it

is >> plugged in (both pedals and wheel to the back of the PC), how it is setup in

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>> Windows 98, and how it is calibrated and setup in GPL. If possible, I may >> buy the Logitech ... >> Thanks, >> Phillip >-------- >Jason Monds >"My other car is a Ferrari" >http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups >(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

I am also using my N Pro pedals and logitech FF wheel but unfortunately it only works for GPL. What is this L4 and V-stick utility stuff you refer to and will it allow me to use this setup for other games? Leo

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> Yup, it's true. > The Nascar Pro stays connected to your gameport (you can remove the steering > unit if you want). > I got my LWFF this morning, set it up as per instructions (you have to keep > the LWFF pedals around... they provide power for the wheel) and ran the > installer (which updated the drivers and profiler automatically from the > web... neat!!). The LWFF is now device 1 in the Game Controller applet > (N-Pro is device 0). I got rid of the profiler as decribed by Sergey > Zakharov in his "Logitech FF & memory usage tip" message and fired up GPL. > It defaulted to the joystick(s) calibration screen, which now had two pages. > I recalibrated gas and brake (of the N-Pro) on page one and on the second > page, the steering wheel of the LWFF (axis 4 I think). All that was left for > me to do was to select the LWFF for steering and define it's button and > paddle fucntions. Bingo... few lines in the core.ini (see reply's to my > "Question for fellow LWFF users... <vbg>") and you're good to go. > BTW: if you were using an L4 to connect your N-Pro you're laughing all the > way, because it's V-Stick utility recognises the LWFF. With it you can mix > and match a controller for any game "on the fly", like, for instance, > Midtown Madness (only recognises resources from device 0 by default). > Good luck, > Jan./ your mileage may vary, of course. > ------ > >That one could use the Logitech or any other FF wheel with their existing > >Nascar Pro Pedals. Is this true? <snip>

The PDPI L4 is a dedicated, digital gameport (www.pdpi.net). The V-stick utility comes with it's drivers (might be available for download seperately, used to be anyway). It basically allows you to construct a custom, "virtual" joystick, out of all the joysticks on your system. Mapping it's axis and buttons to actual axis and buttons on the joysticks/wheels you got connected. I don't know if it works without the card though. Jan. ------ >I am also using my N Pro pedals and logitech FF wheel but unfortunately it only >works for GPL. What is this L4 and V-stick utility stuff you refer to and will >it allow me to use this setup for other games? >Leo <snip>

Nope. Randy said that it was easy to recognize all controllers attached to the system and it made his testing easier, that is why it works in GPL. Jason.

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> But... Can this be done for other games?? > >Ya know, I heard from someone who has the peddles that.... > >If you put the Logitech wheel in the USB port and the T2 (pro) pedals in > the > >gameport both are seen by GPL. You should put the Logitech wheel as joy#1 > and > >the PRO as joy#2 in the Control Panel/ Joysticks program.

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