Question for fellow LWFF users... <vbg>

Just got mine today and been tweaking for about 2 hours now, but can't seem to get it "right". Which settings do you use for playing GPL?? -Both in Game Controller Properties and core.ini?? Any help appreciated, -thanks. Jan.

I'm using some settings based on those posted by simonp but tweaked the max_steering_torque so that I don't get such an arm workout fighting the wheel. [ Joy ] allow_force_feedback = 1 ; Use FF if device has it force_feedback_damping = 60.000000 ; force feedback damping coefficient force_feedback_latency = 0.025000 ; force feedback latency (secs) max_steering_torque = 155.000000 ; steering torque in N*in giving max device force Simon's original setting had higher torque forces if you really want an arm workout here it is: ;max_steering_torque = 85.000000 ; steering torque in N*in giving max device force Also in the Game Controller Panel I have all the forces set at 100% and *especially* make sure you turn off the "Enable Centering Springs in Force Feedback Games" feature, since in GPL this really muddies up the force feedback feel. This combo gives me very good noticeable feel for what the car is doing without having to fight the wheel to control the car too much. Hope that helps. Seeyas on the track. --John (Joao) Silva

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>Just got mine today and been tweaking for about 2 hours now, but can't seem >to get it "right". >Which settings do you use for playing GPL?? -Both in Game Controller >Properties and core.ini?? >Any help appreciated, -thanks. >Jan.

All forces set to 150%. No centering force. Right now I am using the standard GPL1.1 ini setup for the FF. Also using the 3.20 software for the Logitech. I think its www.wingmanteam.com has the new drivers, etc. As Joe Marques had some thigns to say about the MSFF wheel, but might apply well to the LWFF but I haven't had a chance to try them yet. Here's his post ------------------------ I picked up the MSFF (which I will compare to the LWFF I ordered and return the loser) because FF is the rage since GPL 1.1. When I first fired up the wheel I left "force feedback" and "return to center" set to high in the sidewinder control panel and didn't change any core.ini settings. I also had the linear slider in GPL set in the middle. Well to say I wasn't impressed is a gross understatement. After ALL the hype I thought this just can't be what you were all raving about. The wheel was far too stiff and the weight and inertia effects seemed slightly delayed (out of sync) and more detrimental than useful to driving. Discouraged, I decided to experiment with the settings. I turned off "return to center" in the sidewinder control panel and INCREASED max torque in the core.ini to 275 which actually reduced the forces in the game (max_steering_torque = 275.000000). This gave me the ideal blend of subtle yet useful FF, however, the laggy response remained. I thought the culprit might be the linear slider. I moved the linear slider completely toward linear to see if a linear steering wheel would improve FF response. WOW! The FF felt perfect. The FF effects were immediate, appropriate and AMAZING. I could now feel almost every inch of the cars movement. The weight, the inertia and the grip were all relayed through this amazing FF process. Now you could see and FEEL the car swing left and right in perfect sync with your input. GPL+FF=Ultimate Immersion. The tactile feedback of the wheel is the perfect compliment to the "2D" visual and auditory data. It is the missing 3rd dimension and certainly is a far cry from the useless gimmick I once thought of FF. So if your experience of GPL FF isn't what you had hoped, don't be discouraged. Experiment with the settings, since this can make a world of difference.

Ouch - I don't know how you can use such a low latency. I tried it and everything felt out of sync. The default is much better IMO. Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

LWFF Profiler 3.20 http://www.wingmanteam.com/default.htm Overall Effects 130% Spring Effects 100% - any more begins to mask FFeffects IMO Damper Effect 130% Enable Centering Spring Unchecked Unshifted Commands: Button 3 - Clutch Button 5 - Look Left Button 6 - Look Right Button 4 - SHIFT Shifted Commands: Button 3 - Change View Button 5 - Shift+R Alison's core.ini file (large) http://vroc.net/ Pedals replaced with CH Pedals don [|]-(_)-[|]

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>Just got mine today and been tweaking for about 2 hours now, but can't seem >to get it "right". >Which settings do you use for playing GPL?? -Both in Game Controller >Properties and core.ini?? >Any help appreciated, -thanks. >Jan.

Here is what i use Jan, [ Joy ] allow_force_feedback = 1 ; Use FF if device has it force_feedback_damping = 60.000000 ; force feedback damping coefficient force_feedback_latency = 0.000010 ; force feedback latency (secs) max_steering_torque = 10.000000 ; steering torque in N*in giving max device force With overall effects strength set to 50% in the Wingman profiler. Centering spring turned off.Setting the effects in the core.ini is more precise. Sid. .

This could break your table ;-) Jens On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:00:43 +1000, "Sid Chapple" >Here is what i use Jan, <snip> >max_steering_torque = 10.000000 ; steering torque in N*in giving max <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

Correction: I tried it - the 50% setting makes this setup quite soft. Since I also use othet FF-sims (believe it or not), I stayed with 100% in Wingman-setup and use about 400.000 in core.ini Jens

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>This could break your table ;-) >Jens >On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:00:43 +1000, "Sid Chapple" >>Here is what i use Jan, ><snip> >>max_steering_torque = 10.000000 ; steering torque in N*in giving max ><snip> >--------------------------------------------- >Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

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Hi Jan, I left the wingman setup at default setting. Only unchecked the box "combined axis", which changes to split axis. In GPL I go for much lower strength, i.e. 420.0000 in the moment. The rest I left unchanged. The biggest achievement in improving my laptimes I gained by switching off FF :-) , driving with FF is really hard. Jens On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:14:19 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"

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>Just got mine today and been tweaking for about 2 hours now, but can't seem >to get it "right". >Which settings do you use for playing GPL?? -Both in Game Controller >Properties and core.ini?? >Any help appreciated, -thanks. >Jan.

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