WHO KNOWS A VERY REALISTIC CAR-SIMULATOR ON PC ???

HI ! I'm searching a very realistic car-simulator on PC ? Where can I get this ? THANX BYE CHEKER

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:49:56 +0200, Try Grand Prix Legends by Sierra .... www.sierra.com -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m. * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com

GET GPL=GrandPrixLegends, it is by far the best and ONLY simulator in my opinion, youll probably be flooded with loads of other guys telling you the same thing, for sure even :o) YOu wont regret buying it. Ross"The Boss" MacWun MacGregor <G>

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In my book Geand Prix Legends is the onely SIMULATOR on the market. All the rest are gust Games!!!!!!!!! Im a RaceCar driver and a PC game lover, I purchas all car games for my pc i can find.

A R, I hate to tell you they are all games. After having been in a ture Flight Simulater with full motion, anything on a PC is a game. I buried a very expensive private jet on this simulator and have the bruises to prove it. Dave

I've been in a racing simulator a few months ago. Great fun, I drove two laps on Spa. Really scaring! Andre

They are all games, yes, but GPL is also a SIMULATION (as are a lot of other games). This is distinct from a SIMULATOR, which is what you used when you had your SIMULATION of flying.

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> A R, > I hate to tell you they are all games. After having been in a ture Flight > Simulater with full motion, anything on a PC is a game. I buried a very > expensive private jet on this simulator and have the bruises to prove it. > Dave > > In my book Geand Prix Legends is the onely SIMULATOR on the market. All > the > > rest are gust Games!!!!!!!!! > > Im a RaceCar driver and a PC game lover, I purchas all car games for my > pc i > > can find.

So to clarify what you said... A SIMULATOR is something that you partake of a SIMULATION. For the period GPL is used your PC + controller is the SIMULATOR that you are running the SIMULATION on. The point David was making, and you well know it, was that compared to full scale commercial flight simulators and simulations, anything that has come out on the PC so far is still a game. I haven't had the chance to play on one but they're acknowledged as being as close to real flying as possible and a country mile away from PC flight simulation. M

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>They are all games, yes, but GPL is also a SIMULATION (as are a lot of >other games). >This is distinct from a SIMULATOR, which is what you used when you had >your SIMULATION of flying. >> A R, >> I hate to tell you they are all games. After having been in a ture >> Flight Simulater with full motion, anything on a PC is a game. I >> buried a very expensive private jet on this simulator and have the >> bruises to prove it. >> Dave

------------------------------ English -------------------------------------- I think that he would like to know if it exists a simulation that is not a game. An equivalent of " Flight Simulator " for example. It would also interest me to know it so exists, I think that there would be a market for schools of conduct. Think of it gentlemen of Papyrus. In a friendly way, ----------------------------- French ------------------------------------------ Je penses qu'il aimerait savoir s'il existe une simulation qui ne soit pas un jeu. Un equivalent de "Flight Simulator" par exemple. Cela m'interesserait aussi de savoir si cela existe, je penses qu'il y aurait un march pour les coles de conduite. Pensez-y messieurs de Papyrus. Amicalement, -- ==================================== Sbastien Tixier - Game Developper

No market for it at all. Or at least not a large enough one for Sierra.

If your talking about that on the PC-market, I agree there isn't much of a market, unless you would talk about a online global city where everybody could co-exist (hehe that would be fun). But the Sierra driving school software was "ok", especially the second version, and I really think that if you create an overall good package there could be a market for this. I really liked them to package it with the GP1wheel back in the days for under 100$, it was a good marketing deal. But if your talking about specialized simulators, there is plenty available all around the world, and much more accurate than GPL will ever be. Those corporation simulators, from companies like BCE or software-based engine simulators, are very complicated. I would think that once maybe the Papyrus game engine could be sell to some company who does private simulators. Maybe it is already. But I do not think it's even enough sophisticated compared to others. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank> -- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/ -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I would say the majority opinion in terms of realism (wrt the physics and feel of the car) would be: 1) Sierra's Grand Prix Legends 2) Sierra's Viper Racing, 3) Maybe Ubisoft's Monaco GP Racing 2 or Microprose GP2. Though 1 and 2 are the only ones to give a really "live" feel. Sky

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> > No market for it at all. Or at least not a large enough one for Sierra. > If your talking about that on the PC-market, I agree there isn't much of a > market, unless you would talk about a online global city where everybody > could co-exist (hehe that would be fun). But the Sierra driving school > software was "ok", especially the second version, and I really think that if > you create an overall good package there could be a market for this. I > really liked them to package it with the GP1wheel back in the days for under > 100$, it was a good marketing deal. > But if your talking about specialized simulators, there is plenty available > all around the world, and much more accurate than GPL will ever be. Those

Here at work we are getting a full-scale car simulator in some months, and it will be really interesting to see how the physics will be compared to GPL. Some of my colleagues (sp?) have tried GPL too and they mean that our new simulator will not be as advanced. I'm realy looking forward to try it and try some racing on it and see how it feels. The main use of it is to research traffic-behaviour. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

I would tend to agree with your colleagues. Obviously not having seen it first hand, I can't say exactly, but if its being used to model and research traffic-behaviours I would tend to think that the sophistication of the physics model would not need to be enormously complex as you are focusing more on how the traffic moves, rather than how each car handles.

Yeah, I was talking strictly PC. But I agree, I don't think its sophisticated enough to be run as some of the other simulators are used. However, its pushing the sophistication of what a single PC can handle. Some of those large simulators use montrous servers I'd love to have in the office....:)

Maybe this person is looking for a non participant simulator. No Graphics, just a bunch of numbers to see if the latest damper valve will hold up under highway stresses. That's why I'd look into this group based on it's name. :-) -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA > A R, > I hate to tell you they are all games. After having been in a ture Flight > Simulater with full motion, anything on a PC is a game. I buried a very > expensive private jet on this simulator and have the bruises to prove it. > Dave > > In my book Geand Prix Legends is the onely SIMULATOR on the market. All > the > > rest are gust Games!!!!!!!!! > > Im a RaceCar driver and a PC game lover, I purchas all car games for my > pc i > > can find.

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