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Chicago Grand Prix

10 posts by 6 people · 22 Aug 1999 - 26 Aug 1999

Chris 22 Aug 1999#487392
Ok, I was there in person and must say this is a first class facility and it was an absolutely great race there today. 200mph on a mile oval is something to experience....the CART cars absolutely fly. :) Couple of points I'd thought I'd make a) HUGE attendance and the stands were full, was great. b) Many of the fans that were around me, and/or I ran into were quite knowledgeable about CART and the sport. c) Paul Tracy sucks. He keeps doing the same thing over and over again. :)
Chris 22 Aug 1999#487393
Doh..I forgot to mention some other important points. d) I WANT CART2! :) I got to the CMS in time to see the IndyLights out there running and I must say that I was jonesing to be out there. May just have to boot up ICR2. :)
Goy Larsen 23 Aug 1999#487506
> c) Paul Tracy sucks. He keeps doing the same thing over and over again. No kidding, that guy is a moron, I'm no big fan of Andretti myself, but this time I completely agree with him, Paul Tracey HAD to know that Andretti was there, after all he tried to run him off the track all the way down the straight, some people give racing room, others just wreck, the guy is fast but doesn't use his head much What amazes me most is that the commentators seemed to think it was just a "racing incident", come on.......... -- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
Chris 23 Aug 1999#487507
No "racing incident" there. That was over agressive driving and I wouldn't be surprised to see Tracy on probation again. He needs to learn some good driving techniques, how to use your head, and when and where to be aggressive from his teammate Dario who is heads and tails above him in ability and just being a good driver.
Greg Cisko 24 Aug 1999#487731
>> c) Paul Tracy sucks. He keeps doing the same thing over and over again. >No kidding, that guy is a moron, I'm no big fan of Andretti myself, but >this time I completely agree with him, Paul Tracey HAD to know that >Andretti was there, after all he tried to run him off the track all the Tracey admitted that he knew MA was there, but that they were going for the same piece of the track. Like that makes it OK. I thought that was bogus too. tracey tried to run MA off the track on the main straight, then clearly just crashed into him in the turn. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
Greg Cisko 24 Aug 1999#487732
>That's interesting because a couple of laps later Franchitti cut down in >front of whomever was following him exactly the same way and in the same >place Tracey did with Andretti....the commentators noted it and the fact >that the driver attempting the overtake gave way...unlike Andretti. When the overtaking car is in the position that MA's car was the car on the outside is supposed to give the proper space not just crash into him and claim a racing incident. I think the rule is if the front wheel of the overtaking car is up to the door panel area (sidepod) then you F'ing back off. That is basic racing 101. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
EldredP 25 Aug 1999#487915
Quoted text (8 lines)>>> c) Paul Tracy sucks. He keeps doing the same thing over and over again. >>No kidding, that guy is a moron, I'm no big fan of Andretti myself, but >>this time I completely agree with him, Paul Tracey HAD to know that >>Andretti was there, after all he tried to run him off the track all the >Tracey admitted that he knew MA was there, but that they were going >for the same piece of the track. Like that makes it OK.
So maybe Michael was right - Paul DOES have a death wish. I can't see running into someone at 180+ mph just because you WANT that piece of track. Sounds like Natural Selection to me. Unfortunately, some innocent may get caught in his 'finale'... Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Greg Cisko 25 Aug 1999#487916
I read in the Chicago Tribune this morning that the track was hit with a noise warning citation. No fines this time. But supposedly they will sit down and discuss how to lower the crowd/car noise. Right, like they will put mufflers on the cars just for Chicago!!! What a pile of ***(I live in the suburbs). The problem is the speedway was build in Sportmans Park which is a horse race track, which is in the town of cicero (quite residential). -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com
Greg, I suspect it will involve more sound buffers around the outside of the track. Circero isn't all that residential around Sportsman Park. :) But nonetheless, I'm sure the "noise polution" will involve more sound proofing. However, the cars were something to be seen and heard. :) Cicero's government needs to shut up and just deal with it. Having the Chicago Motor Speedway is its biggest economic boon in years or in years to come. I doubt that Cicero has ever seen 70,000 or so people, and more may be expected next year to try and get tickets, in the village at one time.
rick.jo.. 26 Aug 1999#488107
Quoted text (22 lines)>> I read in the Chicago Tribune this morning that the track was >> hit with a noise warning citation. No fines this time. But supposedly >> they will sit down and discuss how to lower the crowd/car noise. >Greg, >I suspect it will involve more sound buffers around the outside of the >track. >> Right, like they will put mufflers on the cars just for Chicago!!! >> What a pile of ***(I live in the suburbs). The problem is the >> speedway was build in Sportmans Park which is a horse >> race track, which is in the town of cicero (quite residential). >Circero isn't all that residential around Sportsman Park. :) But >nonetheless, I'm sure the "noise polution" will involve more sound proofing. >However, the cars were something to be seen and heard. :) Cicero's >government needs to shut up and just deal with it. Having the Chicago Motor >Speedway is its biggest economic boon in years or in years to come. I doubt >that Cicero has ever seen 70,000 or so people, and more may be expected next >year to try and get tickets, in the village at one time.
Seems to be a popular pastime: pick a noisy business and build next door to it, then complain. Our airport is now totally surrounded by residentials. Stupid planning there. Not only can is it unable to expand, these people have the nerve to complain about noise!

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