ANYONE able to host w/o N3 crashing in practice?

Is there anyone out there that is able to Host online races that is NOT getting kicked out to windows while sitting at practice waiting for others to join the race? (I know its a run on sentence, but I'm MAD!) Doesn't seem to mater if 4 are connected or 29 are connected. BANG, straight to windows with now warning? Angry Hitch-Hiker (not one you'd want to pick up tonight!)

HH, I do believe there are quite a few of us, myself being one. Are you hosting on WON or at your IP? I'm not sure about WON-- I don't go there often-- but when I'm hosting at my IP I haven't had one problem. Alanb

Hosted a beauty tonite, no problems. BUT, I tried three times to host with the "Computer Opponents" box un-checked and locked up every time. I mean solid, have-to-hit-the-reset-button lock-ups. I think someone already posted that you have to have at least one AI car in there or you're screwed. Hope this helps. Zog

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> Is there anyone out there that is able to Host online races that is NOT > getting kicked out to windows while sitting at practice waiting for > others to join the race? (I know its a run on sentence, but I'm MAD!) > Doesn't seem to mater if 4 are connected or 29 are connected. BANG, > straight to windows with now warning? > Angry Hitch-Hiker > (not one you'd want to pick up tonight!)

I hosted tonight... well... I tried to. I used the "one AI minimum" theory, but it didn't work for me. It was a couple of minutes into practice, racers were joining, and .... total lock up. I hope Papy gets the N3 multiplay more stable very soon!! -- -Paul My reply address is false. Please post replies to this news group. If you need to e-mail me, it's scan-man at home dot com

I hosted about six or so races tonight, with no lockups at all. But, we never went into practice mode. We just went straight to the track. No AI cars either, and no problems at all.

I've been able to host with no problems but there have been a few times when I've tried to join and got booted to desktop. -- Thanks Michael Horton Webmaster of http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/ Home of the F2/F3 Hotlaps and http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/html/ HTML for Begineers

Totally false. This is just another case of something happening to someone and then that someone just saying that because it happens to him it must happen to everyone. I host periodically with no AI cars and I've gone an hour of practice and then qualification then race-- no problems. The whole process of online racing is very touchy and actually anyone who joins your hosted race can***things up. But I doubt it has a thing to do with using AI racers. Alanb

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>>Hosted a beauty tonite, no problems. BUT, I tried three times >>to host with the "Computer Opponents" box un-checked and >>locked up every time. I mean solid, have-to-hit-the-reset- >>button lock-ups. I think someone already posted that you have >>to have at least one AI car in there or you're screwed. Hope >>this helps. >Totally false. This is just another case of something happening >to someone and then that someone just saying that because it >happens to him it must happen to everyone. I host periodically >with no AI cars and I've gone an hour of practice and then >qualification then race-- no problems. The whole process of >online racing is very touchy and actually anyone who joins your >hosted race can***things up. But I doubt it has a thing to >do with using AI racers.

Well, that "someone" was me, and at the time I said it, it looked as if it was caused by the lack of AI in the race. I later recanted after it failed yet again even with AI in the race. I never once said that it would happen to everyone, and in fact never hinted that was the case. Papy is working on a patch, and I hope we don't have to wait 9 months for it like we did with the first GPL patch. Until a patch is released, check your NR3 directory. There's a file called debug.txt that is created (I think) every time you run the program. Immediately after a crash, send that file to Charlie Heath. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.members.home.net/jms1/index.html Barbarian Diecast Collector (370+ cars and counting) http://members.home.net/jsimm/diecast_index.html North American Stockcar Racing Online Competition http://www.paddedwall.org/nasroc1/nasroc1.html Super X Philes http://members.home.net/kap/superx/superx.html If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

This solution has been passed on to me by known stable hosts: Make the field size (in the second screen) greater than the host limit you set on the first screen (max of 32). Example: 1. Enter your name and car file. Click host. then set the max connections to 30. 2. On the next screen where you choose the track, yellows and stuff, set the field size to 40. This should cure hosting problems. It is a known bug that if you have a full server and the field size equals the max connections the program will hang. Jason. PS: Thanks to the Aman and Underdog for the info and testing.

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> Is there anyone out there that is able to Host online races that is NOT > getting kicked out to windows while sitting at practice waiting for > others to join the race? (I know its a run on sentence, but I'm MAD!) > Doesn't seem to mater if 4 are connected or 29 are connected. BANG, > straight to windows with now warning? > Angry Hitch-Hiker > (not one you'd want to pick up tonight!)

-------- Jason Monds "My other car is a Ferrari" http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

If your running window's 98 run the system file checker in system tools. I found the following files corrupt after installing N3: d3dpmesh.dll, d3drm.dll, d3dxof.dll Win98 will ask you to load your win98 CD, do this and reload the corrupt d3d files. After doing this, I have had no problems with N3 crashing on-line, or offline. Rick Sweeney

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> Is there anyone out there that is able to Host online races that is NOT > getting kicked out to windows while sitting at practice waiting for > others to join the race? (I know its a run on sentence, but I'm MAD!) > Doesn't seem to mater if 4 are connected or 29 are connected. BANG, > straight to windows with now warning? > Angry Hitch-Hiker > (not one you'd want to pick up tonight!)

Ahh well I had mine set to Max connection 15 and field size set to 43 from the get-go and I was still crashing when hosting. Read my post above, it fixed my problem anyway. Rick

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> This solution has been passed on to me by known stable hosts: > Make the field size (in the second screen) greater than the host limit you > set on the first screen (max of 32). > Example: > 1. Enter your name and car file. Click host. then set the max connections > to 30. > 2. On the next screen where you choose the track, yellows and stuff, set > the field size to 40. > This should cure hosting problems. It is a known bug that if you have a > full server and the field size equals the max connections the program will > hang. > Jason. > PS: Thanks to the Aman and Underdog for the info and testing. > > Is there anyone out there that is able to Host online races that is NOT > > getting kicked out to windows while sitting at practice waiting for > > others to join the race? (I know its a run on sentence, but I'm MAD!) > > Doesn't seem to mater if 4 are connected or 29 are connected. BANG, > > straight to windows with now warning? > > Angry Hitch-Hiker > > (not one you'd want to pick up tonight!) > -------- > Jason Monds > "My other car is a Ferrari" > http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Thanks for the tip Rick. Just to clear up the numbers problem I tried 15 / 43 and it crashed too. It seems there is a problem with limits. Underdog hosted with 15/20 and Aman hosted with 20/30 and it worked. There could be a couple problems here at least we have a couple things to try :-D Jason.

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> Ahh well I had mine set to Max connection 15 and field size set to 43 from the > get-go and I was still crashing when hosting. Read my post above, it fixed > my problem anyway. > Rick > > This solution has been passed on to me by known stable hosts: > > Make the field size (in the second screen) greater than the host limit you > > set on the first screen (max of 32). > > Example: > > 1. Enter your name and car file. Click host. then set the max connections > > to 30. > > 2. On the next screen where you choose the track, yellows and stuff, set > > the field size to 40. > > This should cure hosting problems. It is a known bug that if you have a > > full server and the field size equals the max connections the program will > > hang. > > Jason. > > PS: Thanks to the Aman and Underdog for the info and testing. > > > Is there anyone out there that is able to Host online races that is NOT > > > getting kicked out to windows while sitting at practice waiting for > > > others to join the race? (I know its a run on sentence, but I'm MAD!) > > > Doesn't seem to mater if 4 are connected or 29 are connected. BANG, > > > straight to windows with now warning? > > > Angry Hitch-Hiker > > > (not one you'd want to pick up tonight!) > > -------- > > Jason Monds > > "My other car is a Ferrari" > > http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

-- -------- Jason Monds "My other car is a Ferrari" http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Thanks for all the replies and possible solutions! I believe I've tried all of them, and will run windows file checker as soon as I get home. Looks like there isn't anyone running smoothly with this. I to have found that once I make it to qualify, I'm home free with no system or N3 crashes. So, I would assume, that the failure is while my IP address is open and others are joining. I don't think that the AI car settings have anything to do with it. The IP comment about bypassing won.new looks like it will be something to try even though it will not improve any performance of ping times... I'll let everyone know! Again thanks for all the feedback, sooner or later, we'll have this solved. A Happier Hitch-Hiker hosting in bravo

> I hosted about six or so races tonight, with no lockups at all. But, we > never went into practice mode. We just went straight to the track. No AI > cars either, and no problems at all. If you went straight to the track, then how did others join you?? Hitch-Hiker

Totally false. This is just another case of something happening to someone I raced on Alan's server yesterday night. We had a 40 min practice and a 20 min race, 7 racers, not AI drivers, and noboby go booted. Was pretty fun! Some warping but, I think that you can expect that given the different connection speeds and location. Philster

>> I hosted about six or so races tonight, with no lockups at all. But, we >> never went into practice mode. We just went straight to the track. No AI >> cars either, and no problems at all. >If you went straight to the track, then how did others join you?? I meant we went straight to the track from chat screen. We didn't go into practice, or warmups. I should've said "we went straight to the actual race" jeff

> I meant we went straight to the track from chat screen. We didn't go into > practice, or warmups. I should've said "we went straight to the actual race" Ok, chat screen?... which one? race selection and setup screen (all blue screen) or after you go to the track, YOU just don't go into a practice yourself? (with white chat box on left) If the latter, when others are coming in THEY can go to practice. Right? btw, I just hosted 2 races with a 20 car field each and had now crashes! (computer) (the back of the field "wrecked" alot.) LOL Thanks for the info.. Hitch-Hiker

Me an Zog set up a server last night and we found (only guessing here) that if you set the players to 15 and it ALL filled up it would freeze. But if we started when there was only 14, it would be fine. We also did this with 30 and as soon as it hit 30, the server would freeze. These are only guesses, not a real test. Anyone else notice this?

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> > I hosted about six or so races tonight, with no lockups at all. But, we > > never went into practice mode. We just went straight to the track. No AI > > cars either, and no problems at all. > If you went straight to the track, then how did others join you?? > Hitch-Hiker