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NASCAR Legends - Finally Got To Run Riverside

2 posts by 2 people · 01 Nov 1999 - 01 Nov 1999

Tom Pabst 01 Nov 1999#500790
Hi Guys...... First, my condolences to Greg Moore, his family and team mates. I have been at NASA races all weekend at Sears Point......they lowered the flags this afternoon about 5 pm (during a 5 hour enduro race). I've been racing for nearly four*** years......the death of a fellow driver is always devastating to me...... whether it occurs on or off the race track. I noticed some heated posts below about "safety".......maybe this will makes some sense to some of you not actively involved in real world racing: Look at the advancements over the last 20 years in personal driver safety equipment and technology, race track construction, track safety for participants and fans, the crushable race tubs to absorb energy...away from the driver and cocoon him/her in a fair amount of protection, carbon fiber itself has saved hundreds of lives. But.....deaths still occur. I think its possible to say that we are at a point....technologically speaking with regard to everyone's safety at the race track, fans, drivers, crew members.....where silly accidents that should NOT cause deaths.....generally don't anymore! Gonzales and Moore stood almost no chance of surviving their accidents under any type of safety equipment known and used today in modern racing. You can point to things.....in every accident that's ever taken the life of a driver......and say "if".....! In Greg's case......start with the access road that lifted his car, or go back to the very beginning......the driver error...or equipment failure (it was one or the other) that caused the high speed spin to start with....."if"......! My experience in racing for four*** years has convinced me that when a driver perishes....racing makes every effort to determine if the death was reasonably avoidable.....through the "known" technology, and race procedures employed. On to NASCAR Legends........ I was finally able to drive it some tonight (after getting it on Friday)....of course I would have paid the price for NL if it was just a simulation of one track, Riverside! I'm very impressed. The first lap around the track....I took in first gear.....I felt like a 6 year old....who used to go to Riverside with his uncle to watch ....I think every race possible! And as an ***....I was at Riverside to crew for a Firehawk Enduro race team....but never got to race at Riverside because it was torn down before I could run in a race there. The track was very authentic to my memory of it. My hat is off to Papyrus.....for a spectacular job of recreating Riverside from what little "images and data" they had available to them. Even the "coloring" of the track and surrounding hillsides is virtually a perfect reproduction (guess I needed to say that because I've "bagged" them pretty hard for always making Sears Point "green"....when it's not green). But, as much as the Riverside track impresses.......the driving of the Legends cars impresses me even more! The N2 "game engine" and "car physics" programs are not very....shall we say....."flexible." And the utilities to work with them are borderline archaic by current standards of sim production technology .........unlike GPL which is far more flexible in both the car physics and game engine departments. The "feel" of driving those under-tired, over-horse powered "boats" they called NASCAR race cars at that time in history......is a remarkable achievement....considering the "tools" Papy had to create it with. I never had the opportunity to actually race one of those cars.....but I've driven several of them in solo laps at Portland International when I instructed for the Vintage Racing Schools held there in the late 80's.......the NL cars take my brain back to those moments.....with extreme realism. For those of you with real racing experience......here's a "hint" on what I discovered tonight....driving NL at Riverside: Drive the cars as if they are front-wheel drive, showroom stock race cars....use the exact same technique. After 20 laps of "crashing" virtually every lap....I switched to the FWD-showroom stock technique I learned to drive in the ESCORT series....but its the same every SCCA amateur uses in SSA, SSB, or SSC every weekend. Within 10 laps using this driving technique.....I was clicking off lap after lap above 110's mph.....and I hadn't even touched the "ACE" suspension yet (which is a little too "pushy"......for my taste at least). Sorry, for those of you without real world experience driving FWD-showroom stock race cars.....the explanation of the technique is beyond the scope of this newsgroup posting....and this one is already too long. I'll try to write a Crew Chief's Notebook column for High Gear very soon....and will explain it in detail then. As to the "issue" about the AI cutting the corner in T6....??? I don't see what the big deal is? If they do it.....so do I.....end of issue .....in my book. Gonna go turn the AI back up to 100% and get my ***waxed a little.......I can sleep-in tomorrow! lol.... Regards, Tom Pabst P.S. I'll have "sound" stuff, hints and tricks...and some "tweaks" for the SB Live card in the "soundtwk.txt" file for NL on the High Gear pages next week! P.S.S......Hint: The AI's line in "the sweeper" (last right-hand turn before heading back up track over s/f) is slow....so is the "black" track markings for "the line." Their line over "trestles" is too fast....don't try to match them....you'll be plowing California dirt on every lap if you do!
Quoted text (8 lines)>Sorry, for those of you without real world experience driving FWD-showroom stock >race cars.....the explanation of the technique is beyond the scope of this >newsgroup posting....and this one is already too long. I'll try to write a Crew >Chief's Notebook column for High Gear very soon....and will explain it in detail >then. >As to the "issue" about the AI cutting the corner in T6....??? I don't see what >the big deal is? If they do it.....so do I.....end of issue .....in my book.
Tom. Thanks for your insightful and entertaining post. I appreciate what you have to say and your contributions. Jeff

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