GPLDUMP 0.7.6 RELEASED!

Hello again! I just can't help myself. As usual, grab at http://www.hut.fi/~kaltsi/ WHAT's NEW? 0.7.6 (16-Dec-1999) + Added a new race graph type: "Passing graph", which will show position changes after each lap. Good for writing race reports :-) + Added export functionality to the telemetry data. It's not much, but could possibly be useful for someone. + Fixed evil bugs. -Juha --

Fantastic work, Kaltsi! Keep up the good work. :) -- Greger Huttu

I didn't have time to test it yet (I'm at my work) but that export function could be very handy. With the old DOS GPLDump you could compare more than two replays at once, now if I can export the files to Excel I can do that again... great. There is only one thing I really would like to see in GPLDump. I would like to see it displayed just as it was displayed in the DOS version. It was time x distance I believe? Andre

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>>Hello again! >>I just can't help myself. >Fantastic work, Kaltsi! Keep up the good work. :) >-- >Greger Huttu

is there a read me file for using the prog? does it support online races with more than one person in there?> Capp

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>Hello again! >I just can't help myself. >As usual, grab at http://www.hut.fi/~kaltsi/ >WHAT's NEW? > 0.7.6 (16-Dec-1999) > + Added a new race graph type: "Passing graph", which will show > position changes after each lap. Good for writing race reports :-) > + Added export functionality to the telemetry data. It's not much, > but could possibly be useful for someone. > + Fixed evil bugs. > -Juha >--

>is there a read me file for using the prog? Not really. You can make the race graphs from replays like that, but you can't look at the telemetry from multiplayer replays. -Juha --

Greger, You can't possibly need GPLDump, can you? Your replays (and Wolfgang's) are the ones everyone uses as their reference laps. :) Thanks for posting your replays and setups. Donnie

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> >Hello again! > >I just can't help myself. > Fantastic work, Kaltsi! Keep up the good work. :) > -- > Greger Huttu

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:41:23 GMT, "Donnie Hale"

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>> >Hello again! >> >I just can't help myself. >> Fantastic work, Kaltsi! Keep up the good work. :) >Greger, >You can't possibly need GPLDump, can you?

It helps sometimes when I'm stuck doing similar laptimes and can't seem to go faster. I download someone else's replay and sometimes the setup and compare the laps with Dump and Spygirl to see in which part of the track I'm slower. Usually I can improve my laptimes after doing this. It's my pleasure. I hope they help at least someone. :) -- Greger Huttu

can you? heck I don't need any fancy utility's to tell me what part of the track I'm going slower on...ALL OF IT!!! dave henrie

But why, oh, why, doesn't it show a graph for braking? buzz

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> can you? > > It helps sometimes when I'm stuck doing similar laptimes and can't > > seem to go faster. I download someone else's replay and sometimes the > > setup and compare the laps with Dump and Spygirl to see in which part > > of the track I'm slower. > > Usually I can improve my laptimes after doing this. > heck I don't need any fancy utility's to tell me what part of the > track I'm going slower on...ALL OF IT!!! > dave henrie

I've wondered about that myself. Wouldn't it be great to see how/where/how much the really fast guys break? How about it Juha?

>> But why, oh, why, doesn't it show a graph for braking? >> buzz > I've wondered about that myself. Wouldn't it be great to see how/where/how >much the really fast guys break? How about it Juha? Sorry but that info isn't saved in the replay files, so it's pretty hard to display :-) Neither is the gas pedal position. -Juha --

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> can you? >> It helps sometimes when I'm stuck doing similar laptimes and can't >> seem to go faster. I download someone else's replay and sometimes the >> setup and compare the laps with Dump and Spygirl to see in which part >> of the track I'm slower. >> Usually I can improve my laptimes after doing this. > heck I don't need any fancy utility's to tell me what part of the >track I'm going slower on...ALL OF IT!!! >dave henrie

You took the words right out of my mouth. So, what do do when you're slow EVERYWHERE? And multiple practice laps doesn't help? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Read books about car behaviour (Carroll Smith's books are really good), watch racing videos, watch replays of other drivers, compare your laps with record laps using GPLDump and Spygirl, download different setups and try which one suits you the best, read the superb trackguides at http://lightsoutracing.simplenet.com, read everything at riccardo nunnini's site, and ehhh.... practice. Your laptimes are really below average (no offence, I'm not that good either) but since you post here so much I guess you drive a lot in GPL, you really should start to improve over time. The Ring for example, I just read you are still in the 11 minutes. How much do you drive there? Do you know the track by memory? The most important thing is that you race without driving the car off the road. Try to drive a little bit slower in the corners which you have difficulties with, focus more on staying on the track. If you can drive on the ring without having to use shift-r, driving below 10 minutes should be no problem anymore. Of all the above tips, I think reading the circuit guides at http://lightsoutracing.simplenet.com is the best tip, it really helped me a lot. All the track guides are there, and the writer just started writing the guide for the Ring, that should be completed in a couple of weeks. Good luck, don't give up. Andre

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>> can you? >>> It helps sometimes when I'm stuck doing similar laptimes and can't >>> seem to go faster. I download someone else's replay and sometimes the >>> setup and compare the laps with Dump and Spygirl to see in which part >>> of the track I'm slower. >>> Usually I can improve my laptimes after doing this. >> heck I don't need any fancy utility's to tell me what part of the >>track I'm going slower on...ALL OF IT!!! >>dave henrie >You took the words right out of my mouth. So, what do do when you're slow >EVERYWHERE? And multiple practice laps doesn't help?

You just have to find out where you're losing the most time. Braking, in the corner, or exiting the corner. Then try to work on that. What wheel are you using? -- Greger Huttu

Know the 'Ring by MEMORY?!? I don't think that's even possible... No, to answer your question. <g> Yep, my laptimes are too low - no offense taken. My PB at Monaco is lower than the average for *F3*'s...<sigh> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

TSW2 Modified. And believe it or not, I was slower with my T2...<g> -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Huttu) writes: >>>You took the words right out of my mouth. So, what do do when you're slow >>>EVERYWHERE? And multiple practice laps doesn't help? >>You just have to find out where you're losing the most time. Braking, >>in the corner, or exiting the corner. Then try to work on that. What >>wheel are you using? >TSW2 Modified. And believe it or not, I was slower with my T2...<g>

So have compared replays with Spygirl or GPLDump? That should help a lot. -- Greger Huttu

Yep, I've used GPLDump, but I don't have the new SpyGirl yet. -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Huttu) writes: > >>TSW2 Modified. And believe it or not, I was slower with my T2...<g> > >So have compared replays with Spygirl or GPLDump? That should help a > >lot. > Yep, I've used GPLDump, but I don't have the new SpyGirl yet. > --

GPL SpyGirl is more than worth the download time!! Along with that, I've found another valuable analysis tool out there, the GPL Track Computer. Check it out. It's available at http://members.home.net/gpl It does an excellent job of showing you where & by how much you are losing time. Then go to your merged replay in SpyGirl & get a little further insight. Wave to me in your mirrors as you pass! -- //Chuck Kandler #70 //ChuckK or KS70 on Won.net //K&S Racing //http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 //The box said "Windows 0x5f or better", so I installed LINUX!

I know that it sounds really hard and maybe you need lots of practice laps, but I think it is possible. I did about 15 or 20 laps already and at least I know when there is a tricky turn ahead. this does not mean you could remember every single turn, but knowing the sections and what is ahead is possible and it is nescessary! if you don't know what is lying behind the next hump: brake early! Lio

>Know the 'Ring by MEMORY?!? I don't think that's even possible... >No, to answer your question. <g> Hmm that's not so hard and since I'm at work with nothing better to do, I could try writing here from memory how I drive the ring :-) I've only driven 8:19 on the ring with the lotus, so these are not instructions how to drive it. Coming down the main straight in 5th gear, past the pit complex, taking a big breath, I start braking for the lefthander T1 when the groove starts to turn darker shifting all the way down to 1st gear. Wroom T1, turns into long righthander T2, which opens up on the other 'main straight'.. I'm shifting up all the way to 5th and then I'll need to brake hard for the left hander.. then a quick dash to the hump, apply some brakes.. shift to 1st gear for the left hander.. gas gas... 2nd, 3rd.. right hander.. brakes.. 2nd .. left hander.. gaaas... 3rd gear.. slight left.. start braking.. 2nd.. 1st.. left hander.. quick acceleration to the right hander.. then left small straight.. right.. left.. a bit longer straight.. up to 2nd then braking to 1st gear.. take right.. turn down left .. start accelerating.. 2nd.. 3rd.. shift to 4th just when going over the bridge.. make the car steady and prepare for the flugplatz jump.. WHEEE!!!.. squeeeekk... tap the brakes.. shift to 3rd.. bastaad right hander.. small straight.. another righthander.. then a sloping lefthander.. all the way shifting up to 5th gear.. road makes small squirms.. just follow.. coming to a slight jump.. ease the throttle a bit.. shift to 4th .. 3rd.. take the lefthander.. start braking for the hard right.. under the bridge.. 3rd.. 4th.. 5th.. going downhill trying to stay on the tarmac.. at the bottom.. shift to 4th.. going uphill.. shift to 3rd.. take the lefthander and give a little more gas.. brake and shift to 2nd.. turn right.. 1st.. take the two lefts as one curve.. turn hard right.. startaccelerating.. 2nd..3rd.. 4th.. when a dark groove starts to form on the right side.. start braking.. 3rd.. car always slides on this lefthander.. quick acceleration out of it.. then brake all the way to 1st and turn left.. quick accel.. 2nd.. over the hump.. start thinking about braking.. brake.. turn right to Kallenhard.. accel up to 3rd while turning left.. brake.. 2nd.. take the lefthander .. accel up to 3rd.. brakes.. take the two righthanders easyyy... gas GaS GAS!.. aagh.. braking marker.. 2nd.. take the right hander brakes.. 1st.. turn left to the bridge.. gas gas.. turn right. 2nd .. 3rd.. road turns slightly left.. then a small drop.. start braking up to 2nd gear.. turns left all the time.. over the second bridge then up the hill.. brakes 1st.. turn right to Bergwerk.. up the hill start accel.. 2nd. 3rd.. 4th.. over the hump a blind curve to left.. brake after the hump a bit and turn left.. start braking before the groove to the righthander down to 2nd .. gas gaaaaass.. 3rd.. 4th.. road turns left all the time.. stay near the inside.. small hump.. careful not to unsettle the car.. left left.. tap on the brakes.. left.. quick accel.. right.. shift up to 5th.. wromrwrom.. small hump.. after that I have to slow down a bit for the right hander.. shifting down to 3rd before entering.. then a quick sweeping left.. gaaas.. small straight.. have to brake before turning left.. trying to stay on the tarmac while accelerating out of it.. a longer straight with a hump at the end.. brake slightly so that I can stay on the road which turns right after the hump.. accelerate.. start braking for the long righthander.. shifting all the way to 1st.. in the righthander shift to 2nd and accel out of it shifting to 3rd.. going straight at the famous tree in the carousell entry.. start braking when the groove darkens.. shift down to 1st.. enter carousell.. wromwrom.. keep on the concrete.. accel out of it.. 2nd.. quick right.. 3rd.. under the adverti***t-bridge.. 4th.. brake .. 3rd.. turn left.. slides.. gas gaaas.. brake.. 2nd.. left.. gas.. right.. brake over the hump.. right.. huh now I have to think how it goes.. this is probably where I lose most of the time.. small straight.. turns left at the end.. then to the right.. downhill.. another right.. then a really small straight and turns left while being totally off camber and going down at the same time.. and a hard right over a small hump down to a bridge.. quick brakes.. turns right .. gas.. 3rd.. brakes.. need to slow down quite a lot or slides off the lefthander... then another right and a small straight.. which ends into a big drop.. turning left.. right and a hump.. braking to 2nd.. right.. wroom.. left.. small straight .. another big drop.. out of the woods.. road squirms quite a lot.. accelerating up to 4th gear before braking for the right hander that leads over a bridge.. quick accell then brakes 1st.. over the hill.. rear gets very light.. accell to 2nd.. maybe 3rd.. start braking for the small caroussell.. down to 1st.. enter caroussell.. wrooom.. accel out... 2nd ..3rd.. brake for the small hill.. down to 2nd.. take it easy.. start accelerating to 3rd.. while turning right to the main straight.. 4th.. 5th.. breathe out.. remeber to lift the throttle a bit at the jump.. keeping to the left side of the straight.. nearing the bridge.. lift a bit under the bridge taking the left turn heavily on the inside line.. floor it.. another long straight.. turns left a bit.. shift down to 4th at that turn while braking.. right.. then steady the car and shift down to 1st before turning left into the chicane..longish right.. left.. accelerate out of it in 2nd.. up to 4th or 5th before the finish line.. take another big breath and do it all over again. -Juha --

please be my co-pilot ;-) Lio

Sure, but you'll have to install an extra seat for me :-) -Juha --

Kallioinen) writes: >>Know the 'Ring by MEMORY?!? I don't think that's even possible... >>No, to answer your question. <g> >Hmm that's not so hard and since I'm at work with nothing better to do, >I could try writing here from memory how I drive the ring :-) [snip] Juha, you have WAAAY too much time on your hands... :-) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.