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sierra daytona track

38 posts by 29 people · 14 Feb 2000 - 13 Mar 2000

Requests to share Papyrus's Daytona track for NASCAR 3

A poster offered to share the Daytona track Papyrus made for NASCAR Racing 3, which was only distributed on a Daytona Speedweeks CD. Many asked for copies, others warned about the legal pressure the track owners had applied, and posters discussed making it work in NASCAR Legends.

mods/tracks/carsNASCAR Racing 3NASCAR Legends

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NAC RACER 14 Feb 2000#519474
if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it
I think this whole sierra daytona thing is a crock, but still...I'm not going to Daytona so I have no chance to pick up the CD. Are you offering a site download or just email it? Either way is fine. Thanks. Anthony
ymenard 14 Feb 2000#519476
Hmm.. offering tracks via r.a.s. Anybody remembers? Tee hee... -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
J.Norton 14 Feb 2000#519477
Hummmm it is a demo isn't? When the last time anyone paid for a demo. Demos are free meant to show a user the product in hopes thast they will buy it....
Quoted text (17 lines)>Hmmm looking a gift "demo" horse in the mouth......... >> > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it >> Hmm.. offering tracks via r.a.s. >> Anybody remembers? Tee hee... >> -- >> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> >> -- May the Downforce be with you... >> -- [link lost in import] >> -- People think it must be fun to be a super big ***, but they don't >realise >> how hard it is to put up with all the regular ***s in the world.
Gault 14 Feb 2000#519478
Please add me to your list. Thanks!
Kerry Grant 15 Feb 2000#519647
Please send it dude! Thanks, Kerry > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it -- MZ
Brit Gos 15 Feb 2000#519648
Hello. Please add me to any mailing list. But the thought that it would be so publicly offered, knowing the bit-pull tactics that have followed this track. Well we could then start a thread asking to help post bail. Later, BTGoss
Quoted text (13 lines)> Please send it dude! > Thanks, > Kerry > > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it > -- > MZ
>Subject: sierra daytona track >Date: 02/14/2000 5:07 PM Eastern Standard Time >if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it OK I'll have mine with mustard & cheeze pleeze.....Over easy just like Ricky Rudd.. (Don't use NO***in E-mail) You think in the storm we've found the eye of the calm.....Bill Mallonnee, Vigilantes Of Love
Mike 15 Feb 2000#519650
Please include me also. Been looking everywhere. > > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it > Please add me to your list. Thanks!
*cough* neverminditsallreadyonalt.binaries.games *cough* Andre
Quoted text (8 lines)>*cough* alt.binaries.simulators.autos *cough* >Andre >>if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it
Dave 15 Feb 2000#519654
same here, add me to the list > Oh man, please add me to that mailing list!!! > > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it
>> if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it >Hmm.. offering tracks via r.a.s. >Anybody remembers? Tee hee... Yep :) And you are still alive and not jailed up. :) /Martin
>*cough* alt.binaries.simulators.autos *cough* Thanks... Now if some other kind soul could post the *cough* Legends version *cough*, we'd have it made.
Gault 15 Feb 2000#519657
> >*cough* alt.binaries.simulators.autos *cough* > Thanks... Now if some other kind soul could post the *cough* Legends > version *cough*, we'd have it made. If someone has any links to the Legends version, I'd be grateful for a point in the right direction.
I do not see it there > >*cough* alt.binaries.simulators.autos *cough* > Thanks... Now if some other kind soul could post the *cough* Legends > version *cough*, we'd have it made.
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Race 15 Feb 2000#519660
I would love to have it! Thanks! Racer
OpenGL 16 Feb 2000#519885
Just use the same copy from N3 and run the PALFIX program to fix the palette. All should be fine.
Quoted text (7 lines)> > >*cough* alt.binaries.simulators.autos *cough* > > Thanks... Now if some other kind soul could post the *cough* Legends > > version *cough*, we'd have it made. > If someone has any links to the Legends version, I'd be grateful for a point > in the right direction.
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:22:52 -0500, "Gault" >> Just use the same copy from N3 and run the PALFIX program to fix the >> palette. All should be fine. >Thank you, sir! It's not that simple -- I tried it. At 99% the AI cars are turning laps in the 196-199 range while I couldn't get above 192 or 193. The difference is the grip in the turns. There needs to be some changes in the DAYTONA.TXT file to properly set the cars' grip, etc. If anyone would like to do so -- since I don't have a clue what most of those numbers mean -- please do. The graphics aren't that big a deal to me but having good racing is...
BendsMaster 16 Feb 2000#519888
Is this for GPL? If so, send it to me! Thank you. Mauricio >> if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it >Hmm.. offering tracks via r.a.s. >Anybody remembers? Tee hee...
DMFin 16 Feb 2000#519889
Send a copy to me please ! > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it
Same here. I figure if I ask enough people, one of 'em will send me a copy Thanks!
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:38:40 -0500, "R. G. Koehler Jr." >Call the darn track and buy it for $15.00. I did. I posted a note on that subject just now. I still think that Sierra should appreciate the customers who've been faithful to them since the days of the original Indy 500 game and make it available to registered customers for nothing -- and yes, I know all about DIS and distribution rights doo dah doo dah -- but if they permit Sierra to use their name and likeness, that permission should extend beyond this one situation.
Robin MacMahon 17 Feb 2000 16:53 UTC#290020
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!!! NAC RACER <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it
SSmit 19 Feb 2000#520268
Yes, I feel so honored that they take our money ! We all should feel very lucky indeed, that they even allow us to purchase the sims.
K Bear 4 21 Feb 2000#289904
if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it ====================== If you're still offering, I'm interested! I've looked everywhere for it and can't find it... just the Talladega conversions.
Barton Brown 21 Feb 2000 04:26 UTC#289920
See what I mean? BB K Bear 4 wrote: > > if some one needs the daytona track from sierra let me know i have it > ====================== > If you're still offering, I'm interested! I've looked everywhere for it and > can't find it... just the Talladega conversions.
Desti 23 Feb 2000#520824
You aren't kidding about that, hehe. I own both games and found a converter to bring the old Riverside over to N3 to race on with the N3 cars. It's a fun track, but my N3 car feels just like the NL cars, lol, almost no difference in feel. I would have thought the modern day cars could hold the track better than the 1970 cars, hehe. It was like driving on ice, and while i'm struggling to keep my "lead-sled" of a modern day cup car on the paved part of the track, the AI is putting out record laps each time out, lol. But yeah, had to do with game settings in that file, i know what some of the numbers do, but I don't feel confident enough, or knowledgeable enough, to make the changes myself. I've never driven a Winston Cup car myself, lol, so I can't say how it will, or won't, handle on a specific track or condition. I can basically guesstimate, based on running the Glen and Sears Point alot, those 2 make my car feel like it's glued to the track compared to the converted Riverside, hehe. Yeah, I'd rather have the Papy NL Daytona, rather than trying to compete using a 1970 car and the AI running 1999/2000 cars. (One of the numbers in the files tells the AI how fast to run on a certain percentage, say like if you set the AI to run 100%, then they will turn laps at a given speed. If you set it to 95%, they'll run at another given speed based on the formula it uses, which is based on info in the track.txt files, which is why the AI was blowing you off the track while you're struggling to keep your car in the groove, hehe. Also, these numbers, if it's an N3 track, will base it on what a 1999/2000 car would do, not what the 1970 cars would do.) I could be wrong about all this, but I have specifically seen a scale entry in some tracks that relate to how the AI run on the tracks, how fast their lap times are, and it could also relate to the AI info in the "records.txt" file too. Uses either one, or both, of these to give the overall AI performance on the track. Destin
Quoted text (19 lines)> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:22:52 -0500, "Gault" > >> Just use the same copy from N3 and run the PALFIX program to fix the > >> palette. All should be fine. > >Thank you, sir! > It's not that simple -- I tried it. At 99% the AI cars are turning > laps in the 196-199 range while I couldn't get above 192 or 193. The > difference is the grip in the turns. There needs to be some changes > in the DAYTONA.TXT file to properly set the cars' grip, etc. > If anyone would like to do so -- since I don't have a clue what most > of those numbers mean -- please do. The graphics aren't that big a > deal to me but having good racing is...
Desti 23 Feb 2000#520825
I realize all the legal powerplays etc, but sometimes I think they go a just *tad* off the deep end sometimes, lol. So follow this humor some....just humor, lol..... What I wanna know, is what does the TRACK have to say about all of this? I'm sure he/she/it doesn't like being exploited for money. Does International Speedway Corporation pay the Daytona track for the use of it's identity, it's likeness, it's nicely paved surface? I think the "track" should get paid. As it stands, the track itself is the one getting ripped off. It's nice, some would call it beautiful, georgous, pretty, a wonderful surface to race on, etc, etc. But yet they don't pay the *track* a penny. I'm in favor of them putting a vault in the middle of the infield, and for every dollar they make off the track, they give the track a dollar in return. Hmm, they would make no money. Ok, for every $2 they make, give the track $1. Still making 100% profit off the track. Ever wonder if some mega-company like Microsoft, or RJ Reynolds might one day say "We've acquired the rights to Cindy Crawford. Anyone who dares pirate her image, her likeness, creates clones, etc....will face the full fury of our crony lawyers." Then one day, Mrs C. Crawford forgets that she don't own her identity, leaves her house to take a jog around the block. Suddenly, coming out of turn four, errrr, coming around the corner down the street....she is suddenly swarmed by a whorde of lawyers and photographers. "Ah hah Mrs Crawford!! We caught you red-handed!! By showing yourself in public, you are a pirate and a thief!! How dare you steal our imagine, our likeness!! Or are you a clone? Where is your "cloner"?? Fess up Mrs Crawford, you got to pay the Reaper now!!" <Evil laughter in the background from whordes of lawyers fixing to be richer than Bill Gates> Somehow, I can imagine that being in a George Orwelle novel, lol. And probably we are 10-20 years from that very thing. Have fun laughing folks, couldn't resist interjecting a little humor, or even make ya think, lol. Destin Member: Committee to stop commercialization and exploitations of racetracks Member: Committee to give equal rights to racetracks Member: Jobless Comedian Society lol > I agree Steve, we should go over and wash the floors for them. Imagine a > company like that allowing us to buy something from them. We are so lucky. > Next time I buy milk at the milk store I will be very glad that they allowed > me in the store to buy something. We owe them one. Who do I make the cheque > out to just to show my gratitude? > Al Stiff > > Yes, I feel so honored that they take our money ! We all should feel > > very lucky indeed, > > that they even allow us to purchase the sims.
Desti 23 Feb 2000#520826
A thought struck me. (Ouch!) Get this, and if I was a famous Nascar racer, I would damn sure do it. :o) Fast forward to the near future... the year is 2001.... Headline: Daytona, Florida...Feb, 2001..... "It has been learned today that Dale Earnheardt has gone commercial. He has informed the owners of Daytona International Speedway, that he deserves his "fair share" for helping to bring in the droves of crazed fans. Mr. Earnhardt reportedly wants $100,000 just to show up for the race, as his racing heritage...his breeding and up-bringing...his past honors and glories....his skill and prowess behind the wheel of the most powerful stock cars on the planet.....all these combine to draw in the flocks of fans, of which, all of their hard earned money, food stamps, etc...all that goes only to ISC, the owners of DIS. We have attempted to contact ISC, but got an answering machine.....but couldn't help notice hearing what sounded to be heated discussions and legal wranglings in the background. Parts we picked up were... "We're gonna... sue......... the ........ out of ....... who does he think he is??......<beep> "Please leave a message after the tone."" Dateline: Feb, 2001...Daytona, FL.. It has been learned today that ISC is suing nascar driver Dale Earnhardt for $600 GAZILLION. They say will never stoop to being "one-upped" by a lowly grease monkey who drives a car. They also say that should the said, Mr. Earnhardt, finish in the points, and in the money, he will get no prize money for his efforts, as the fact that RACING ON DAYTONA is a PRIVELIDGE and not a RIGHT. That it's he, who should be fortunate they'll let someone of his poor abilities even participate in their "grand" races. Just his pleasure of racing on the "legendary, esteemed, world famous" Daytona track is PAYMENT ENOUGH. This late word in...NASCAR, the governing body, their committee has let it be known that Dale Earnhardt will recieve NO official points from the race at Daytona. That his "John Rocker style" outburst upon the glorious ISC and it's members was totally out of line and will not be tolerated. This reporter can't help but be honest and point out one stunning observation....the Nascar officials appearing at the press conference appeared to be wearing horse riding pants...or could that be pockets lined with money?? Hmmm.... errrr..... umm... that concludes the evening news. <Background noises and a sudden "You're fired!!!", followed quickly be commercial "Tide, it really gets your clothes clean!! Just ask ISC!!" Hahahahha, now that is something I can very well see happening in the very near future!!!! ROFLMAO Destin > I realize all the legal powerplays etc, but sometimes I think they go a just > *tad* off the deep end sometimes, lol. So follow this humor some....just > humor, lol..... > What I wanna know, is what does the TRACK have to say about all of this? I'm > sure he/she/it doesn't like being exploited for money. Does International > Speedway Corporation pay the Daytona track for the use of it's identity, > it's likeness, it's nicely paved surface? I think the "track" should get > paid. As it stands, the track itself is the one getting ripped off. It's > nice, some would call it beautiful, georgous, pretty, a wonderful surface to > race on, etc, etc. But yet they don't pay the *track* a penny. I'm in favor
Quoted text (15 lines)> of them putting a vault in the middle of the infield, and for every dollar > they make off the track, they give the track a dollar in return. Hmm, they > would make no money. Ok, for every $2 they make, give the track $1. Still > making 100% profit off the track. > Ever wonder if some mega-company like Microsoft, or RJ Reynolds might one > day say "We've acquired the rights to Cindy Crawford. Anyone who dares > pirate her image, her likeness, creates clones, etc....will face the full > fury of our crony lawyers." > Then one day, Mrs C. Crawford forgets that she don't own her identity, > leaves her house to take a jog around the block. Suddenly, coming out of > turn four, errrr, coming around the corner down the street....she is > suddenly swarmed by a whorde of lawyers and photographers. "Ah hah Mrs > Crawford!! We caught you red-handed!! By showing yourself in public, you
are > a pirate and a thief!! How dare you steal our imagine, our likeness!! Or are > you a clone? Where is your "cloner"?? Fess up Mrs Crawford, you got to pay > the Reaper now!!" <Evil laughter in the background from whordes of lawyers
Quoted text (11 lines)> fixing to be richer than Bill Gates> > Somehow, I can imagine that being in a George Orwelle novel, lol. And > probably we are 10-20 years from that very thing. > Have fun laughing folks, couldn't resist interjecting a little humor, or > even make ya think, lol. > Destin > Member: Committee to stop commercialization and exploitations of
racetracks
Quoted text (10 lines)> Member: Committee to give equal rights to racetracks > Member: Jobless Comedian Society > lol > > I agree Steve, we should go over and wash the floors for them. Imagine a > > company like that allowing us to buy something from them. We are so
lucky.
Quoted text (10 lines)> > Next time I buy milk at the milk store I will be very glad that they > allowed > > me in the store to buy something. We owe them one. Who do I make the > cheque > > out to just to show my gratitude? > > Al Stiff > > > Yes, I feel so honored that they take our money ! We all should feel > > > very lucky indeed, > > > that they even allow us to purchase the sims.
Copy your sears tire line in the txt file and paste it over your tire line in riverside. Right now you are running on 1970 tire grip. -- Kevin Anderson --------------------------------------------------- DK-Racing #15 K_Anderson ------------------------------------------------- http://www.awtech.net/ > You aren't kidding about that, hehe. I own both games and found a converter > to bring the old Riverside over to N3 to race on with the N3 cars. It's a > fun track, but my N3 car feels just like the NL cars, lol, almost no > difference in feel. I would have thought the modern day cars could hold the > track better than the 1970 cars, hehe. It was like driving on ice, and while > i'm struggling to keep my "lead-sled" of a modern day cup car on the paved > part of the track, the AI is putting out record laps each time out, lol. But > yeah, had to do with game settings in that file, i know what some of the > numbers do, but I don't feel confident enough, or knowledgeable enough, to > make the changes myself. I've never driven a Winston Cup car myself, lol, so > I can't say how it will, or won't, handle on a specific track or condition. > I can basically guesstimate, based on running the Glen and Sears Point alot, > those 2 make my car feel like it's glued to the track compared to the > converted Riverside, hehe. > Yeah, I'd rather have the Papy NL Daytona, rather than trying to compete > using a 1970 car and the AI running 1999/2000 cars. (One of the numbers in > the files tells the AI how fast to run on a certain percentage, say like if > you set the AI to run 100%, then they will turn laps at a given speed. If > you set it to 95%, they'll run at another given speed based on the formula > it uses, which is based on info in the track.txt files, which is why the AI > was blowing you off the track while you're struggling to keep your car in > the groove, hehe. Also, these numbers, if it's an N3 track, will base it on > what a 1999/2000 car would do, not what the 1970 cars would do.) I could be > wrong about all this, but I have specifically seen a scale entry in some > tracks that relate to how the AI run on the tracks, how fast their lap times > are, and it could also relate to the AI info in the "records.txt" file too. > Uses either one, or both, of these to give the overall AI performance on the > track. > Destin > > On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:22:52 -0500, "Gault" > > >> Just use the same copy from N3 and run the PALFIX program to fix the > > >> palette. All should be fine. > > >Thank you, sir! > > It's not that simple -- I tried it. At 99% the AI cars are turning > > laps in the 196-199 range while I couldn't get above 192 or 193. The > > difference is the grip in the turns. There needs to be some changes > > in the DAYTONA.TXT file to properly set the cars' grip, etc. > > If anyone would like to do so -- since I don't have a clue what most > > of those numbers mean -- please do. The graphics aren't that big a > > deal to me but having good racing is...
I'm a little late getting into the N3 World, but since N2, I've always missed Daytona. Please email me - and thanks for the efforts. -- Philip D'Amato 1999 Ninja 500R <For Sale: Inquire Within> 2000 Audi S4 <Not For Sale>

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