F1 2000 is superb !!!!

A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. He is evil, I know. But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! I never expected it to be this good! I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the physics. The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those ten minutes. Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I want F1 2000 !!! Andre, EA Sports propaganda department, www.easports.com (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

> A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. Hehe, always "a friend"... :) That's good news! Still a bit sceptical myself, but a bit less now. Cheers, /Martin Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

interesting, could you be a bit more specific about the details ? w hat aspect of the physics do you like especially ? How smooth is the game running (sys.requirements) ? is there a good replay mode (GPL quality?) Do the setup options make sense ? Is the AI good ? True 3D track surface ? Are the times on the tracks realistic ? Is no-aids faster than Brake Help etc ? Is there a LAN multiplayer mode? can you watch other cars on the track during qualifying and practice ? what about the crash physics, are they realistic or some stupid cumulative damage system, and is the damage visible (unlike SCGT) ? thanks if you can answer some of these, among others, they make or break a sim for me cheers, Alex

How about giving us a url for f12000 is you are really genuine I doubt your mate has it

>How about giving us a url for f12000 is you are really genuine alt.binaries.games think again.

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>> A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. >> He is evil, I know. >> But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! >> I never expected it to be this good! >> I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help >> functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without >> completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) >> Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive >> but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first >> impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first >> impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the >> physics. >> The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force >> feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted >> somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those >> ten minutes. >> Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) >> I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I >> want F1 2000 !!! >> Andre, >> EA Sports propaganda department, >> www.easports.com >> (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

hmmmm i looks like i might be wrong only a few files from the game are there:((

As I said, only played the game for about ten minutes, so some short answers.... It just felt good, with the car spinning and sliding all over the place. I watched a in-car footage of Senna driving on Monaco 2 days ago, and when I drive F1 2000 on Monaco, it just looked and felt the same! He has a PII 450 with Voodoo II SLI, but he couldn't get the game working with the voodoo card. So he played with his Viper 550 card, and even with that card the game run very smooth with all options on the highest level! This was in training mode with no AI cars. I saw that there was a replay option, but didn't test it. But there are very many cam views while driving, so I guess that the replays will be excellent. Didn't test it. Only drove in training mode. The tracks are true 3d, and Monaco (only track I tested) was really perfect, with all the bumps and hills on the right spot. I guess so... Don't know... stupid, I should've looked for this. I'll call him tonight and ask him. Don't know The crash physics appear to be excellent!! I made some real bad crashes, and the damage model really looked superb. Driving without a front wing is REALLYdifficult on the highest level :) Also I made some big railing crashes at Monaco, and both my wheels were pointed inwards at different angles, looking very realistic. See above. Maybe there still are some flaws with the physics or the AI, it takes a little bit more than ten minutes to test this more precize. But a first impression is very important for me, I removed Sos 37, Ford Racing, Psychnosis F1 99 and Lemans 24 hours after a couple of minutes driving, but this game gave me a superb impression. I didn't expect this, after the letdowns of the above game I was very preserved, but they really did a good job on this one. Compared to this, GP2 finally looks like an old game :) Andre

There is it. http://www.vis-per.com/

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> hmmmm i looks like i might be wrong > only a few files from the game are there:(( > > A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. > > He is evil, I know. > > But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! > > I never expected it to be this good! > > I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help > > functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without > > completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) > > Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive > > but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first > > impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first > > impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the > > physics. > > The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force > > feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted > > somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those > > ten minutes. > > Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) > > I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I > > want F1 2000 !!! > > Andre, > > EA Sports propaganda department, > > www.easports.com > > (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

Just one question: How big are the heads?

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:21:11 +0100, Gregor Veble >Just one question: >How big are the heads? www.visper.com has the news of the release of the rip and the ISO. the ISO being the cd version. so the game is definetely out. those of you wanting to buy it, better get your wallets ready Rich

D3d looks poor, sounds arent timed with the action, such as shifting. But overall seems like a decent game.

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>On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:21:11 +0100, Gregor Veble >>Just one question: >>How big are the heads? >www.visper.com has the news of the release of the rip and the ISO. >the ISO being the cd version. >so the game is definetely out. >those of you wanting to buy it, better get your wallets ready >Rich

Is there a URL where the demo can be downloaded? Did the cars drive like MGPRS2? Slot

says... This adds plenty to your credibility:-) Looks like F1 2000 is on the shopping list when it comes out, hopefully on Friday 24th (UK) - Michael

Downloaded it too, looks good, but very low fps on my 5 cars enabled) with other cars. When testing track fps is reasonable. Should be better with my config I would think though.

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> Is there a URL where the demo can be downloaded? > Did the cars drive like MGPRS2? > Slot > > A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. > > He is evil, I know. > > But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! > > I never expected it to be this good! > > I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help > > functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without > > completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) > > Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive > > but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first > > impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first > > impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the > > physics. > > The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force > > feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted > > somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those > > ten minutes. > > Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) > > I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I > > want F1 2000 !!! > > Andre, > > EA Sports propaganda department, > > www.easports.com > > (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

yeah i only tested and fps was good, no slow downs etc. I'll try racing w/ some other cars but the poor d3d graphics makes me shy away from this sim/gamulation. V3 3000 >Downloaded it too, looks good, but very low fps on my >5 cars enabled) with >other cars. When testing track fps is reasonable. >Should be better with my config I would think though.

I'd really love to try this game out.

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> >How about giving us a url for f12000 is you are really genuine > alt.binaries.games > >I doubt your mate has it > think again. > >> A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. > >> He is evil, I know. > >> But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! > >> I never expected it to be this good! > >> I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help > >> functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without > >> completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) > >> Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive > >> but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first > >> impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first > >> impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the > >> physics. > >> The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force > >> feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted > >> somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those > >> ten minutes. > >> Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) > >> I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I > >> want F1 2000 !!! > >> Andre, > >> EA Sports propaganda department, > >> www.easports.com > >> (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

Is that all you really care about? If so.. jeesh. Model's ain't everything, and remember. We are able to create brand new cars in SCGT, why won't we beable to creat new models for f1 2000. DjFIL > Just one question: > How big are the heads?

demo? sorry.. none yet. how about a full riped copy for now. Take a test drive. http://www.vis-per.com/downloads.asp?cat=newgames as with all warez "if you like\respect it, buy it." DjFIL

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> Is there a URL where the demo can be downloaded? > Did the cars drive like MGPRS2? > Slot > > A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. > > He is evil, I know. > > But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! > > I never expected it to be this good! > > I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help > > functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without > > completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) > > Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive > > but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first > > impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first > > impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the > > physics. > > The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force > > feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted > > somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those > > ten minutes. > > Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) > > I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I > > want F1 2000 !!! > > Andre, > > EA Sports propaganda department, > > www.easports.com > > (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

>I'd really love to try this game out. www.wstorm.net seems to have something.. ;)

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Hey, I'm interested into how complex the damage model is. After being disappointed by the cookie-cutter damage models in GP2 and F1RS, I am hoping for something a lot better when I finish this huge download of this game... So, could someone please do me a favor? I'd appreciate it if someone would go backwards and slam into the AI cars at high speed at Hockenheim or Monza and get a screenshot of the carnage. :) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrashes.cjb.net

I have a problem in that whenever I hit a wall or another car - where damage would come into play - F1 2000 crashes out to Win98 desktop. I'm running a PII 400 Voodoo3-2000 clocked and cooled at 170Mhz. I'm curious as to whether or not anyone else is experiencing this. A couple more comments: Even at 1024x768 the graphics look pretty mediocre IMO. I think that D3D on a 3DFX card just isn't up to what we used to see with Glide. At least not in this sim. Also the Force Feedback is almost completely absent. And the canned sound effect when you run over the curbs is very lame. I tried to start a race and got about 5 FPS until I bumped another car (damage) and crashed out again. When I get the chance I guess I'll turn off damage and see if my speculation is correct. As far as Internet play is concerned. If the FPS drop is anything like what I saw in the race with full field, I would venture to guess it will be a disaster... BTW - if these issues can be worked out - I'll probably buy this title. If not, I'll be removing it. --Devon

Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to "analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > I have a problem in that whenever I hit a wall or another car - where damage > would come into play - F1 2000 crashes out to Win98 desktop. I'm running a

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> PII 400 Voodoo3-2000 clocked and cooled at 170Mhz. I'm curious as to > whether or not anyone else is experiencing this. > A couple more comments: Even at 1024x768 the graphics look pretty mediocre > IMO. I think that D3D on a 3DFX card just isn't up to what we used to see > with Glide. At least not in this sim. Also the Force Feedback is almost > completely absent. And the canned sound effect when you run over the

curbs > is very lame. I tried to start a race and got about 5 FPS until I bumped > another car (damage) and crashed out again. > When I get the chance I guess I'll turn off damage and see if my speculation > is correct. As far as Internet play is concerned. If the FPS drop is > anything like what I saw in the race with full field, I would venture to > guess it will be a disaster... > BTW - if these issues can be worked out - I'll probably buy this title. If

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> not, I'll be removing it. > --Devon > > Hey, I'm interested into how complex the damage model is. After being > > disappointed by the cookie-cutter damage models in GP2 and F1RS, I am > hoping > > for something a lot better when I finish this huge download of this > game... > > So, could someone please do me a favor? I'd appreciate it if someone > would go > > backwards and slam into the AI cars at high speed at Hockenheim or Monza > and > > get a screenshot of the carnage. :) > > Dan Belcher > > Team Racing Unlimited > > http://simcrashes.cjb.net

I dont care how great of a simulation it is, the crummy d3d makes this sim seem cheesy. Is it the fact that im using a V3 card?

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>Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The >game itself is the final version. >Andre >>Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to >>"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. >>Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc..

I agree, but damn it I want to drive this thing now. That being said, after taking it for a spin I will be purchasing it next week. I'm very anti-piracy, but I just couldn't help myself. When does the Voodoo 5 ship??? -Andrew

According to the Myth.nfo file there are 3 releases of this game.The Class and evil-iso releases are both based on a Beta version,which could explain some of the problems people are having with low frame rates etc..The Myth release is supposed to be the final. The game bieing available in warez channels doesn't mean its close to shipping, IIRC Rainbow 6 was on the net a month or so before it shipped..

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:13:52 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The >game itself is the final version. > >Andre According to the myth.nfo the class and evil-iso releases are betas.

Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The game itself is the final version. Andre

If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to patch files to do so. Final version or not

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> Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The > game itself is the final version. > Andre > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc..

#I'd really love to try this game out. You read that article? Sure made the company famous... Regards, Shellfer.

Yes, but ofcourse that doesn't change the physics of the car, the sounds, the setups or anything else in the game now does it? So stating that you can't accurately "analyse" or "test" a pirated copy is nonsense. The only thing you can't "analyse" or "test" are the movies and music. But I couldn't care less actually, the movies and music of Lemans were superb... Andre

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>If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to >patch files to do so. Final version or not >> Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The >> game itself is the final version. >> Andre >> >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to >> >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. >> >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc..

The only thing ripped is the Anim when the game starts. Everything is their.

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> Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > "analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > > I have a problem in that whenever I hit a wall or another car - where > damage > > would come into play - F1 2000 crashes out to Win98 desktop. I'm running > a > > PII 400 Voodoo3-2000 clocked and cooled at 170Mhz. I'm curious as to > > whether or not anyone else is experiencing this. > > A couple more comments: Even at 1024x768 the graphics look pretty mediocre > > IMO. I think that D3D on a 3DFX card just isn't up to what we used to see > > with Glide. At least not in this sim. Also the Force Feedback is almost > > completely absent. And the canned sound effect when you run over the > curbs > > is very lame. I tried to start a race and got about 5 FPS until I bumped > > another car (damage) and crashed out again. > > When I get the chance I guess I'll turn off damage and see if my > speculation > > is correct. As far as Internet play is concerned. If the FPS drop is > > anything like what I saw in the race with full field, I would venture to > > guess it will be a disaster... > > BTW - if these issues can be worked out - I'll probably buy this title. > If > > not, I'll be removing it. > > --Devon > > > Hey, I'm interested into how complex the damage model is. After being > > > disappointed by the cookie-cutter damage models in GP2 and F1RS, I am > > hoping > > > for something a lot better when I finish this huge download of this > > game... > > > So, could someone please do me a favor? I'd appreciate it if someone > > would go > > > backwards and slam into the AI cars at high speed at Hockenheim or Monza > > and > > > get a screenshot of the carnage. :) > > > Dan Belcher > > > Team Racing Unlimited > > > http://simcrashes.cjb.net

Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into a dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you?

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> Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also > missing the final product. Hahaha > Go play with your pirated version > > The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to > > > patch files to do so. Final version or not > > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The > > > > game itself is the final version. > > > > Andre > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc..

Now what were you saying about it being the Final version? Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The > game itself is the final version. > > Andre > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > > >

Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also missing the final product. Hahaha Go play with your pirated version Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to > > patch files to do so. Final version or not > > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The > > > game itself is the final version. > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > > > > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > > > > > > > >

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:05:20 GMT, DjFIL <[email hidden]> wrote: >demo? sorry.. none yet. how about a full riped copy for now. Take a test >drive. > >http://www.vis-per.com/downloads.asp?cat=newgames now it's dead :0(

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>as with all warez "if you like\respect it, buy it." > >DjFIL > >GTX_SlotCar wrote: > >> Is there a URL where the demo can be downloaded? >> >> Did the cars drive like MGPRS2? >> >> Slot >> >> Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > A friend of mine downloaded it from the internet to test it. >> > He is evil, I know. >> > But, I played it, and DAMN WHAT A SIM !!!! >> > I never expected it to be this good! >> > I only played it for about ten minutes, but with all the help >> > functions off, I couldn't drive one lap around Monza without >> > completely crashing my car, reminding me of my first days with GPL :) >> > >> > Graphically superb and very smooth, sound is a little less impressive >> > but I'm sure people will make beter engine sounds for it, and my first >> > impression of the physics are simply amazing. Again, that's the first >> > impression, I didn't have time to do all sorts of stunts to test the >> > physics. >> > >> > The only thing that was a little dissappointing was the force >> > feedback, I only could feel the curbes, but maybe that can be adjusted >> > somewhere. As I said, I couldn't check out all the features in those >> > ten minutes. >> > >> > Oh, and it does support more than one controller at the same time :) >> > >> > I can't wait until this game is in the stores! To hell with GP3, I >> > want F1 2000 !!! >> > >> > >> > Andre, >> > >> > EA Sports propaganda department, >> > www.easports.com >> > >> > (nah, just kidding, it's really that good!)

Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into a dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you? Cliff Roman wrote:

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> Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also > missing the final product. Hahaha > > Go play with your pirated version > > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > > > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to > > > patch files to do so. Final version or not > > > > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. The > > > > game itself is the final version. > > > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > > > > > > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > > > > > > > > > > >

Test driving a car is not illegal is it? I am not going to keep going into this with you. Pirating software is illegal. If your morals allow you to do that, then it is up to you. I personally think it is wrong and will not "steal" software. Go do what you need to do Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into a > dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you? > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also > > missing the final product. Hahaha > > > > Go play with your pirated version > > > > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > > > > > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > > > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to > > > > patch files to do so. Final version or not > > > > > > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music.

The > > > > > game itself is the final version. > > > > > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman"<[email hidden]>

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> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > > > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > > > > > > > > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Guys who whine about Warez and say they won't ever download it because they have morals are just wussies, plain and simple, you're the guys we real men walk all over in life. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:07:36 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Test driving a car is not illegal is it? > >I am not going to keep going into this with you. > >Pirating software is illegal. If your morals allow you to do >that, then it is up to you. > >I personally think it is wrong and will not "steal" software. > >Go do what you need to do > >Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into a >> dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you? >> >> Cliff Roman wrote: >> >> > Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also >> > missing the final product. Hahaha >> > >> > Go play with your pirated version >> > >> > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:[email hidden]... >> > > The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! >> > > >> > > Cliff Roman wrote: >> > > >> > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to >> > > > patch files to do so. Final version or not >> > > > >> > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > > > news:[email hidden]... >> > > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. >The >> > > > > game itself is the final version. >> > > > > >> > > > > Andre >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman" ><[email hidden]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to >> > > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> >

Trust me on this one I ain't feeling guilty!!! Cliff Roman wrote:

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> Test driving a car is not illegal is it? > > I am not going to keep going into this with you. > > Pirating software is illegal. If your morals allow you to do > that, then it is up to you. > > I personally think it is wrong and will not "steal" software. > > Go do what you need to do > > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into a > > dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you? > > > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > > > Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also > > > missing the final product. Hahaha > > > > > > Go play with your pirated version > > > > > > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > > > > > > > > Cliff Roman wrote: > > > > > > > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to > > > > > patch files to do so. Final version or not > > > > > > > > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and music. > The > > > > > > game itself is the final version. > > > > > > > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman" > <[email hidden]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > > > > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You consider yourself a real man cause you download warez? Haha benh <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:38d5e3be.6041697@news...

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> Guys who whine about Warez and say they won't ever download it because > they have morals are just wussies, plain and simple, you're the guys > we real men walk all over in life. > > On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:07:36 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Test driving a car is not illegal is it? > > > >I am not going to keep going into this with you. > > > >Pirating software is illegal. If your morals allow you to do > >that, then it is up to you. > > > >I personally think it is wrong and will not "steal" software. > > > >Go do what you need to do > > > >Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into

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> >> dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you? > >> > >> Cliff Roman wrote: > >> > >> > Hehe, looks like in addition to the Intro, you are also > >> > missing the final product. Hahaha > >> > > >> > Go play with your pirated version > >> > > >> > Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:[email hidden]... > >> > > The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > >> > > > >> > > Cliff Roman wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > If they had to take out the movies and music, they had to > >> > > > patch files to do so. Final version or not > >> > > > > >> > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > > > news:[email hidden]... > >> > > > > Complete nonsense, only files missing are mostly movies and

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> >The > >> > > > > game itself is the final version. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Andre > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:17:25 GMT, "Cliff Roman" > ><[email hidden]> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Anyone who tries to use a pirated version of a game to > >> > > > > >"analyse" and "test" it is asking for inconsistant results. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >Things are missing, files have been patched, etc etc.. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >

Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Works fine for me. I like to try before I buy. You wouldn't go into a > dealership and buy a new car without test driving it would you? Certainly not! But then...that's called a "demo" and is provided by the dealer.....not by someone who's sneaked into his showroom one night and pinched a car. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. ---------------------------

Thx for the review Jens On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:02:11 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >As I said, only played the game for about ten minutes, so some short >answers.... > >>interesting, could you be a bit more specific about the details ? w >>hat aspect of the physics do you like especially ?<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

Thx for the review Jens <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

Thx for the review Jens On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:02:11 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >As I said, only played the game for about ten minutes, so some short >answers.... > >>interesting, could you be a bit more specific about the details ? w >>hat aspect of the physics do you like especially ?<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:16:45 GMT, Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote: >The only thing missing is the Intro. Who the hell cares!!! > I always take that kind of crap out anyway.