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How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

25 posts by 16 people · 30 May 2000 - 06 Jun 2000 16:50 UTC

Notable threadRepeated viewings of Grand Prix, with a GPL developer's note

Fans discussed how often they had watched the film Grand Prix and where to find the letterboxed version, and hoped for a DVD release. Papyrus's Rich Yasi revealed that the film, along with another, had been a valuable reference when the team was developing GPL, and that a laserdisc was used to see the racing scenes in widescreen.

With Rich Yasi (Papyrus)

real motorsportindustry/businessGrand Prix Legends

Automated summary.

EldredP 31 May 2000#266306
Quoted text (16 lines)> >WOULDN'T IT BE ****FAN-TAS-TIC***** if Speedvision were able to get the >rights to put out a special Collector's Edition DVD: >'Speedvision Presents the Lost Drive-In: > "Grand Prix"-- the Movie' >featuring the movie in letterbox format, all the interviews with >Frankenheimer & Garner, possibly some "lost" footage that never made it to >production, and clips such as the Garner/Villeneuve piece at Monza. Hey, >they could even team up with Sierra & plug our beloved Grand Prix Legends >computer sim-- or better still, include a free copy of GPL along with the >DVD. > >Hey, I wonder how many people might be interested in something like this-- >perhaps we could start a petition and get Speedvision to look into it?!! > >R. Hashana
Didn't someone here already suggest that? Not to take anything away from you - that's a great idea! Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Dan, If I remember correctly, my wife placed the order at our local Blockbuster video store. Didn't take long to receive it, either. Be sure to specify that you want the letterbox version. Michael Lowery Dan Belcher wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix. I can't find it anywhere around here and I > don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through a catalog to > see it. ::sigh:: > > ----------------------------------------- > Dan Belcher > Team Racing Unlimited > http://simcrash.00game.com
Dan Belcher 31 May 2000#266484
I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix. I can't find it anywhere around here and I don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through a catalog to see it. ::sigh:: ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com
The Black Cat =^..^= 31 May 2000 01:42 UTC#266532
On Tue, 30 May 2000 18:21:20 -0700, "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote: >hehe :) The non-racing stuff gets old pretty quick but I could watch the racing sequences over and over again and never get tired of it.
Matthew V. Jessick 31 May 2000 03:43 UTC#266391
Once between the beheadings of friends who borrow it ;) Kai Fuller wrote: > hehe :)
Ross Hashana 31 May 2000 05:27 UTC#266405
Hey, now here's a dandy of an idea: Every few months, Speedvision shows John Frankenheimer's "Grand Prix" (letterboxed version) on their "Lost Drive-In" movie feature (hosted by Bruce Dern). I watched it the first time it was on, I watched it a second time, and I watched it again on this past weekend (I also own the video -- but it isn't in letterbox format!). Anyhow, if you haven't seen it, the Speedvision presentation is interspersed with interviews with John Frankenheimer (the director of the movie) and James Garner (actor/driver). They talk about everything - from discussing Carol Shelby's help in making the mock-up Grand Prix cars, to the massive amount of footage that was left on the cutting room floor, to how they added the car's shifting sound effects post-production, to whether the outcome of the movie would be different if Frankenheimer could film it again... all the way to the question: "could a movie like this ever be made again?" (in short: "no".) Anyhow, I'm sure there's lots of interview questions that haven't yet made it to air, due to time constraints, and there is lots of additional footage, such as Garner & Jacques Villeneuve driving around the Monza banking last November -- Garner in an old F1 car, Villeneuve in his '99 Lucky Strike BAR F1 car. Great stuff! WOULDN'T IT BE ****FAN-TAS-TIC***** if Speedvision were able to get the rights to put out a special Collector's Edition DVD: 'Speedvision Presents the Lost Drive-In: "Grand Prix"-- the Movie' featuring the movie in letterbox format, all the interviews with Frankenheimer & Garner, possibly some "lost" footage that never made it to production, and clips such as the Garner/Villeneuve piece at Monza. Hey, they could even team up with Sierra & plug our beloved Grand Prix Legends computer sim-- or better still, include a free copy of GPL along with the DVD. Hey, I wonder how many people might be interested in something like this-- perhaps we could start a petition and get Speedvision to look into it?!! R. Hashana Dan Belcher <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix. I can't find it anywhere around here andI > don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through acatalog to > see it. ::sigh::
Gault 31 May 2000 06:21 UTC#266410
Ross Hashana wrote: (snipped)
Quoted text (13 lines)> WOULDN'T IT BE ****FAN-TAS-TIC***** if Speedvision were able to get the > rights to put out a special Collector's Edition DVD: > 'Speedvision Presents the Lost Drive-In: > "Grand Prix"-- the Movie' > featuring the movie in letterbox format, all the interviews with > Frankenheimer & Garner, possibly some "lost" footage that never made it to > production, and clips such as the Garner/Villeneuve piece at Monza. Hey, > they could even team up with Sierra & plug our beloved Grand Prix Legends > computer sim-- or better still, include a free copy of GPL along with the > DVD. > > Hey, I wonder how many people might be interested in something like this-- > perhaps we could start a petition and get Speedvision to look into it?!!
If they did, I'd place my order immediately. The wife had best not be in my path to the phone. :-)
Andrew Turner 31 May 2000 11:23 UTC#266362
Good idea. I've yet to see the original even once, but I love that kind of stuff. Andrew Ross Hashana wrote:
Quoted text (44 lines)> Hey, now here's a dandy of an idea: > Every few months, Speedvision shows John Frankenheimer's "Grand Prix" > (letterboxed version) on their "Lost Drive-In" movie feature (hosted by > Bruce Dern). I watched it the first time it was on, I watched it a second > time, and I watched it again on this past weekend (I also own the video -- > but it isn't in letterbox format!). Anyhow, if you haven't seen it, the > Speedvision presentation is interspersed with interviews with John > Frankenheimer (the director of the movie) and James Garner (actor/driver). > They talk about everything - from discussing Carol Shelby's help in making > the mock-up Grand Prix cars, to the massive amount of footage that was left > on the cutting room floor, to how they added the car's shifting sound > effects post-production, to whether the outcome of the movie would be > different if Frankenheimer could film it again... all the way to the > question: "could a movie like this ever be made again?" (in short: "no".) > > Anyhow, I'm sure there's lots of interview questions that haven't yet made > it to air, due to time constraints, and there is lots of additional footage, > such as Garner & Jacques Villeneuve driving around the Monza banking last > November -- Garner in an old F1 car, Villeneuve in his '99 Lucky Strike BAR > F1 car. Great stuff! > > WOULDN'T IT BE ****FAN-TAS-TIC***** if Speedvision were able to get the > rights to put out a special Collector's Edition DVD: > 'Speedvision Presents the Lost Drive-In: > "Grand Prix"-- the Movie' > featuring the movie in letterbox format, all the interviews with > Frankenheimer & Garner, possibly some "lost" footage that never made it to > production, and clips such as the Garner/Villeneuve piece at Monza. Hey, > they could even team up with Sierra & plug our beloved Grand Prix Legends > computer sim-- or better still, include a free copy of GPL along with the > DVD. > > Hey, I wonder how many people might be interested in something like this-- > perhaps we could start a petition and get Speedvision to look into it?!! > > R. Hashana > > Dan Belcher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix. I can't find it anywhere around here and > I > > don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through a > catalog to > > see it. ::sigh::
Gault 31 May 2000#525468
(snipped) If they did, I'd place my order immediately. The wife had best not be in my path to the phone. :-)
Dan Belcher 01 Jun 2000#266226
>Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what is the letterbox version? > >Marc The widescreen version that shows the entire screen as seen in the theaters. It has the black space at the top and bottom. ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com
Marc Goldstein 01 Jun 2000 04:22 UTC#266220
Be sure > to specify that you want the letterbox version. > Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what is the letterbox version? Marc
Be sure Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what is the letterbox version? Marc
Marc Goldstein 01 Jun 2000 18:06 UTC#266076
> The widescreen version that shows the entire screen as seen in thetheaters. > It has the black space at the top and bottom. > Thanks, I thought that was probably what it meant. Marc
Rich Yasi 05 Jun 2000 15:52 UTC#265155
OK, DVD and Grand Prix... I've gotta jump in on this one. This film (along with "9 Days") was an extremely valuable resource for us when we were developing GPL lo those many moons ago. Back then, there was no widescreen VHS version available, so the LD was the only way of viewing the racing scenes as Frankenheimer intended, i.e. in their original widescreen glory. MGM has a spotty track record when it comes to DVD. At times, they have done excellent work (the new SE's of the Bond films), and at other times they've done nothing but give us a barebones version taken from a tired old LD master. I just hope that when the time comes to do GP, they don't give us the latter. One encouraging sign is that the release of the film on widescreen VHS indicates that MGM does care about the film to at least some degree. In the Lost Drive In interview with Frankenheimer, he mentioned that a lot of footage wound up on the cutting room floor. Clearly, some footage was shot in Mexico (only several seconds of black and white footage of Garner in the Esses made it into the film) and in the opening credits, the producers "thanked" Watkins Glen - so it seems like footage was shot there as well. Unfortunately, it's highly unlikely that a lot of this stuff is still hanging around 34 years after the fact - but one never knows. Come on MGM! We want the film remastered... we want 5.1 sound... we want commentary tracks with Frankenheimer, Garner, and Phil Hill... we want all the Lost Drive In footage and interviews... we want in-car footage from Clermont-Ferrand (described as a "mini Nurburgring") so that Dave Noonan and/or the GPLEA can work their magic on it... we want the stuff from Mexico and the Glen... in short, we want it all. Since GP is such a long film, I hope that MGM follows Fox's lead with Patton and puts the film on 1 DVD and all the extra goodies on a second one (maybe even a DVD-18!) Probably won't happen, but hey - I can dream, can't I? - Rich "There are fewer than thirty men in the world qualified to drive Formula One. A mere half dozen, perhaps, to win. At this moment, I am inclined to think you are not one of them..."
Roger Walker 05 Jun 2000 16:48 UTC#265171
Rich Yasi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8hgic5$mf5$[email hidden]... <snip> > "There are fewer than thirty men in the world qualified to driveFormula > One. A mere half dozen, perhaps, to win. At this moment, I aminclined to > think you are not one of them..." ><snip> The best line of the movie! :o)
Rob 05 Jun 2000 17:11 UTC#265174
On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 16:48:56 GMT, "Roger Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> >Rich Yasi <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8hgic5$mf5$[email hidden]... ><snip> >> "There are fewer than thirty men in the world qualified to drive >Formula >> One. A mere half dozen, perhaps, to win. At this moment, I am >inclined to >> think you are not one of them..." >> ><snip> > >The best line of the movie! :o)
Nah, the best line is when Barlini and his girlfriend break up, and in his heavily-accented English he says, "I theenk you should go to the Greek Islands with your American boy-friend. I theenk you should go to hell" (with a big smile on his face). Classic! :-)
m.seery 05 Jun 2000 20:34 UTC#265097
> Nah, the best line is when Barlini and his girlfriend break up, and in > his heavily-accented English he says, "I theenk you should go to the > Greek Islands with your American boy-friend. I theenk you should go > to hell" (with a big smile on his face). Classic! :-) Hehe. That line cracks me up every time. He looks like He's really enjoying that ice cream as well <G> MS
Kirk Lane 06 Jun 2000#525588
LOL...Barlini is a pimp!!! =) -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 AIM: Kirker64 (IM me twice so I can reply...using a beta client) "The time has come for me to kill this game Now open wide and say my name" - "Space Lord", Monster Magnet
Kirk Lane 06 Jun 2000 16:50 UTC#264952
> Nah, the best line is when Barlini and his girlfriend break up, and in > his heavily-accented English he says, "I theenk you should go to the > Greek Islands with your American boy-friend. I theenk you should go > to hell" (with a big smile on his face). Classic! :-) LOL...Barlini is a pimp!!! =) -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 AIM: Kirker64 (IM me twice so I can reply...using a beta client) "The time has come for me to kill this game Now open wide and say my name" - "Space Lord", Monster Magnet

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