IndyCar Series any good?

Is the game a big step up from the demo? I thought the demo sucked! I couldn't get my Logitech wheel to work at all and it works with about 6 or 7 other driving games perfectly fine! And the mirrors thing! no mirrors?? duh! The graphics looked dated too.... Anyway I seriously doubt if I'll part with my money for this thing but I was wondering about the your views of the game if you've already picked it up. JZach

Well, anyone's views of the game are going to seem immaterial when you are already biased and also state that you would hardly be likely to buy it. So in that case, why would anyone bother to take the time to give you >their< opinion? Bruce. "J. Zach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uIDcb.3506$[email hidden]... > but I was wondering about the your views of the game if you've already > picked it up. >

OK, then. Let me chime in here. I was going to ask basically the same question, but I didn't try the demo, so I'm not biased (yet) 8-). What do people think of this game? I still have IRL Heat on my hard drive (shh.....). Can anyone offer a comparison between the two? Thanks! Bruce Kennewell wrote:

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> Well, anyone's views of the game are going to seem immaterial when you are > already biased and also state that you would hardly be likely to buy it. > > So in that case, why would anyone bother to take the time to give you > >their< opinion? > > Bruce. > > "J. Zach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:uIDcb.3506$[email hidden]... > > but I was wondering about the your views of the game if you've already > > picked it up. > >

OK, then. Let me chime in here. I was going to ask basically the same question, but I didn't try the demo, so I'm not biased (yet) 8-). What do people think of this game? I still have IRL Heat on my hard drive (shh.....). Can anyone offer a comparison between the two? Thanks!

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> Well, anyone's views of the game are going to seem immaterial when you are > already biased and also state that you would hardly be likely to buy it. > So in that case, why would anyone bother to take the time to give you > >their< opinion? > Bruce. > > but I was wondering about the your views of the game if you've already > > picked it up.

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> Well, anyone's views of the game are going to seem immaterial when you are > already biased and also state that you would hardly be likely to buy it. > > So in that case, why would anyone bother to take the time to give you > >>their< opinion? >

Geeeeez dude! I posted so I could get some opinions of people who have the game. If you have the game you could have given me an answer instead of this reply...... JZach

Hey, JZach.... I haven't found the game yet (live in Des Moines, IA), but, here's a link that might give you some help... http://www.nlgaming.com/nl/asp/id_683/nl/reviewDisp.htm I'll let you know how I think the game is when I get it... Bob "J. Zach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sJXcb.571$[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > Well, anyone's views of the game are going to seem immaterial when youare

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> > already biased and also state that you would hardly be likely to buy it. > > > > So in that case, why would anyone bother to take the time to give you > > > >>their< opinion? > > > > Geeeeez dude! I posted so I could get some opinions of people who have > the game. > > If you have the game you could have given me an answer instead of this > reply...... > > JZach >

Hey, JZach.... I haven't found the game yet (live in Des Moines, IA), but, here's a link that might give you some help... http://www.nlgaming.com/nl/asp/id_683/nl/reviewDisp.htm I'll let you know how I think the game is when I get it... Bob > > Well, anyone's views of the game are going to seem immaterial when you are

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> > already biased and also state that you would hardly be likely to buy it. > > So in that case, why would anyone bother to take the time to give you > >>their< opinion? > Geeeeez dude! I posted so I could get some opinions of people who have > the game. > If you have the game you could have given me an answer instead of this > reply...... > JZach

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:11:05 -0500, "Bob Nielsen \(\"KnightRyder\"\)" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hey, JZach.... > >I haven't found the game yet (live in Des Moines, IA), but, here's a link >that might give you some help... > >http://www.nlgaming.com/nl/asp/id_683/nl/reviewDisp.htm > >I'll let you know how I think the game is when I get it...

I respect other peoples opinions, but this review was cleary -not- written by a simracer. Just download the demo and try it for yourself before spending money on another desillusion. Andre

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>>I haven't found the game yet (live in Des Moines, IA), but, here's a link >>that might give you some help... >> >>http://www.nlgaming.com/nl/asp/id_683/nl/reviewDisp.htm >> >>I'll let you know how I think the game is when I get it... > >I respect other peoples opinions, but this review was cleary -not- >written by a simracer. Just download the demo and try it for yourself >before spending money on another desillusion.

Well, the OP already said that he thought the demo sucked, so I guess his decision is easy...<g> Eldred -- .sig file is at the cleaners... Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> OK, then. Let me chime in here. I was going to ask > basically the same question, but I didn't try the demo, > so I'm not biased (yet) 8-). > > What do people think of this game? I still have IRL > Heat on my hard drive (shh.....). Can anyone offer a > comparison between the two?

IndyCar Series is one of those games.... one the one hand there is a very real sense of speed/danger and it really requires one to be smooth and precise to get around the track quickly. On the other hand if the full game is like the demo it doesn't do itself any favours with the absense of mirrors (confirmed as not included in the full game), the canned pitstops, the fairly unpredictable AI and limited setup options. The only real gripe I have with it on the driving front is, for the precision and consistency in driving this game requires, I was not able to dial in the kind of immediacity in control and feedback such precision and consistency requires. Jan. =---

The most important question here is "Does it have a clockwise/anticlockwise mode ie one lap clockwise then the next lap anticlockwise. Otherwise you just get too giddy DAMN IT! "J. Zach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uIDcb.3506$[email hidden]...

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> Is the game a big step up from the demo? I thought the demo sucked! > > I couldn't get my Logitech wheel to work at all and it works with > about 6 or 7 other driving games perfectly fine! > > And the mirrors thing! no mirrors?? duh! The graphics looked dated too.... > > Anyway I seriously doubt if I'll part with my money for this thing > but I was wondering about the your views of the game if you've already > picked it up. > > JZach >

On 26 Sep 2003 19:01:39 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Well, the OP already said that he thought the demo sucked, so I guess his >decision is easy...<g> > >Eldred Actually I missed the OP :) Andre

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:19:54 GMT, "J. Zach" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Is the game a big step up from the demo? I thought the demo sucked! > >I couldn't get my Logitech wheel to work at all and it works with >about 6 or 7 other driving games perfectly fine! > >And the mirrors thing! no mirrors?? duh! The graphics looked dated too.... > >Anyway I seriously doubt if I'll part with my money for this thing >but I was wondering about the your views of the game if you've already >picked it up. > >JZach

Pretty accurate review over at GCM http://www.gamechronicles.com/reviews/pc/indycar/series.htm Seems the reviewer has some experience racing real cars and has played a LOT of games so I'll take his word on this.

On 29 Sep 2003 11:31:53 GMT, Angry Gamer <[email hidden]> wrote: >Pretty accurate review over at GCM > >http://www.gamechronicles.com/reviews/pc/indycar/series.htm > >Seems the reviewer has some experience racing real cars and has played >a LOT of games so I'll take his word on this. "IndyCar Series does a remarkable job of simulating just about every aspect of the IndyCar season and the world famous Indianapolis 500 right up to the point where you get behind the wheel. The car setup, the schedules, the teams, the racers, everything is perfect and you won�t find a more authentic presentation of IndyCar racing - just don't drive this out of pit row." - Yup, very accurate review. Andre

Apart from the facts that (a) adjusting the car balance from within the cockpit has negligible effect and (b) the car has the most astounding grip I've ever come across (it's impossible to spin the car anywhere other than the pit entrance and exit lanes), I like the game.m It is, in a word, 'fun' and as the game-state saves when you pit under caution then it's nice to be able to run a full-length race for once; the first time since NASCAR Racing #3 (or NASCAR Legends). So as all reviews are subjective, my opinions have the same value as those of any reviewer. :) Bruce. "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 29 Sep 2003 11:31:53 GMT, Angry Gamer <[email hidden]> wrote: > - Yup, very accurate review.

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> Apart from the facts that (a) adjusting the car balance from within the > cockpit has negligible effect and (b) the car has the most astounding grip > I've ever come across (it's impossible to spin the car anywhere other than > the pit entrance and exit lanes), I like the game.m It is, in a word, 'fun' > and as the game-state saves when you pit under caution then it's nice to be > able to run a full-length race for once; the first time since NASCAR Racing > #3 (or NASCAR Legends). > > So as all reviews are subjective, my opinions have the same value as those > of any reviewer. :) > > Bruce. > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On 29 Sep 2003 11:31:53 GMT, Angry Gamer <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > - Yup, very accurate review. > > > > Bruce,

Huh?? Impossible to spin the car?? I must be doing something wrong, then, because I can't complete a lap anywhere WITHOUT spinning the car! Bob

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > Apart from the facts that (a) adjusting the car balance from within the > > cockpit has negligible effect and (b) the car has the most astounding grip > > I've ever come across (it's impossible to spin the car anywhere other than > > the pit entrance and exit lanes), I like the game.m It is, in a word, 'fun' > > and as the game-state saves when you pit under caution then it's nice to be > > able to run a full-length race for once; the first time since NASCAR Racing > > #3 (or NASCAR Legends). > > > > So as all reviews are subjective, my opinions have the same value as those > > of any reviewer. :) > > > > Bruce. > > > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On 29 Sep 2003 11:31:53 GMT, Angry Gamer <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > - Yup, very accurate review. > > > > > > > > Bruce, > > Huh?? Impossible to spin the car?? I must be doing something wrong, > then, because I can't complete a lap anywhere WITHOUT spinning the car! > > Bob

Well, it appears I may have been a little hasty with the above message - I can complete laps without spinning the car, but what I can't do is complete a lap without drifting up into the wall! (Is that understeer, or oversteer)? And, how do I correct it? Bob >

That's "understeer", or to use the USA vernacular, the car is "pushing", Robert. In this game, it's indicative of insufficient downforce on the front so if you add a few degrees to the front wing - a degree at a time - and test it, then you should be okay. Also, try adjusting the in-car balance (S and X keys) - they may help too. Bruce. "Robert Nielsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > Apart from the facts that (a) adjusting the car balance from withinthe > > > cockpit has negligible effect and (b) the car has the most astoundinggrip > > > I've ever come across (it's impossible to spin the car anywhere otherthan > > > the pit entrance and exit lanes), I like the game.m It is, in a word,'fun' > > > and as the game-state saves when you pit under caution then it's niceto be > > > able to run a full-length race for once; the first time since NASCARRacing > > > #3 (or NASCAR Legends). > > > > > > So as all reviews are subjective, my opinions have the same value asthose

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> > > of any reviewer. :) > > > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On 29 Sep 2003 11:31:53 GMT, Angry Gamer <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > - Yup, very accurate review. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce, > > > > Huh?? Impossible to spin the car?? I must be doing something wrong, > > then, because I can't complete a lap anywhere WITHOUT spinning the car! > > > > Bob > > > Well, it appears I may have been a little hasty with the above message - > I can complete laps without spinning the car, but what I can't do is > complete a lap without drifting up into the wall! (Is that understeer, > or oversteer)? And, how do I correct it? > > Bob > >

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> That's "understeer", or to use the USA vernacular, the car is "pushing", > Robert. > In this game, it's indicative of insufficient downforce on the front so if > you add a few degrees to the front wing - a degree at a time - and test it, > then you should be okay. > Also, try adjusting the in-car balance (S and X keys) - they may help too. > > Bruce. >

Hey, Bruce... Any suggestions for Indy? I've gotten Michigan and California down pretty well, but I can't get the understeer figured out at the Brickyard.... Bob

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> In article <3f7ce341$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > That's "understeer", or to use the USA vernacular, the car is "pushing", > > Robert. > > In this game, it's indicative of insufficient downforce on the front so if > > you add a few degrees to the front wing - a degree at a time - and test it, > > then you should be okay. > > Also, try adjusting the in-car balance (S and X keys) - they may help too. > > > > Bruce. > > > > > Hey, Bruce... > > Any suggestions for Indy? I've gotten Michigan and California down > pretty well, but I can't get the understeer figured out at the > Brickyard.... > > Bob

Uninstall its face.

Hmmm. Well, I can only tell you that I use 1 degree of front wing and minus 1 degree on the rear. Apart from that, the front-rear balance is biased about 4 clicks to the front (S key) from the mid-point. And I use a mixture setting of 5 for the race, irrespective of the AI performance. But apart from the above settings, I have found that getting the tyre patch correct is very important. Adjust your pressures and camber so that those readings are even right across the tread. Hope this is helpful. Bruce. "Robert Nielsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Any suggestions for Indy? I've gotten Michigan and California down > pretty well, but I can't get the understeer figured out at the > Brickyard....