LFS Controller Questions

Just downloaded the latest version of LFS, and am still deciding whether to activate the full sim. Had a heck of a time getting my controller calibrated properly within the sim (TSW pedals) until I noticed the Calibration Lock feature. Earlier version of LFS did not cause me any controller headaches. My brake pedal in particular had been going out of whack (always applied) right after its first application, so I put in a new pot, but the problem continued. Then I found Calibration Lock and that solved the problem. Now, why would a feature like Calibration Lock even be offered (and be off by default)? Why wouldn't you want to lock your calibration? And why would brake peda calibration "drift" that far almost immediately? It doesn't seem to happen in other sims. Finally, exactly what does "Thr/brk centre reduction" do? I had to slide this all the way to the right for my brake pedal to behave properly. BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel and TSW (original) peds. Thanks! Bert

Just downloaded the latest version of LFS, and am still deciding whether to activate the full sim. Had a heck of a time getting my controller calibrated properly within the sim (TSW pedals) until I noticed the Calibration Lock feature. Earlier version of LFS did not cause me any controller headaches. My brake pedal in particular had been going out of whack (always applied) right after its first application, so I put in a new pot, but the problem continued. Then I found Calibration Lock and that solved the problem. Now, why would a feature like Calibration Lock even be offered (and be off by default)? Why wouldn't you want to lock your calibration? And why would brake peda calibration "drift" that far almost immediately? It doesn't seem to happen in other sims. Finally, exactly what does "Thr/brk centre reduction" do? I had to slide this all the way to the right for my brake pedal to behave properly. BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel and TSW (original) peds. Thanks! Bert

In article <[email hidden]>, "bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com (BRH) wrote: > BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel I'm not sure I can help directly, but I've been having trouble with split axis in LFS with my Momo. That's probably down to me failing to understand the controller config properly, but I'm using single axis at the moment and it seems to work ok after a bit of experimentation. LFS's controller setup does seem to be very flexible, I just don't have a very flexible brain! Andrew McP

I think LFS's controller config screen is the most powerful config screen I've ever seen in a game. It is organized quite weird, but all the options are there. I think the LFS guys could really benefit from someone handling the whole User Interface thing, I volunteer :) Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com > (BRH) wrote: > > > BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel > > I'm not sure I can help directly, but I've been having trouble with > split axis in LFS with my Momo. That's probably down to me failing to > understand the controller config properly, but I'm using single axis at > the moment and it seems to work ok after a bit of experimentation. > > LFS's controller setup does seem to be very flexible, I just don't have > a very flexible brain! > > Andrew McP

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:23 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote: > In article <[email hidden]>, "bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com > (BRH) wrote: > >> BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel I had some problems using a TSW and pedals too, but they "went away" after playing a while, so I guess "calib lock" has taken care of them. The symtoms are that if I press the brake pedal slightly it will sometimes get "stuck" at being applied half way, even though I release the brake. A hefty stomp on the pedal usually cures the problem in-car, but well, now the problem has gone away all by itself it seems. Other sims (papy, f1c) work fine on the same setup, so it's not a pot / hw problem. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

There's an option to pick separate axis gas and brake, and then you might have to click invert on one or both

Thanks Uwe, Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the brake pedal is not being touched. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want to get LFS to work properly before buying it. Thanks! Bert Uwe hoover Schuerkamp wrote:

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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:23 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote: > > In article <[email hidden]>, "bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com > > (BRH) wrote: > > > >> BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel > > I had some problems using a TSW and pedals too, but they "went > away" after playing a while, so I guess "calib lock" has taken > care of them. > > The symtoms are that if I press the brake pedal slightly it > will sometimes get "stuck" at being applied half way, even > though I release the brake. > > A hefty stomp on the pedal usually cures the problem in-car, > but well, now the problem has gone away all by itself it seems. > > Other sims (papy, f1c) work fine on the same setup, so it's not > a pot / hw problem. > > Cheers, > > uwe > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Thanks Uwe, Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the brake pedal is not being touched. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want to get LFS to work properly before buying it. Thanks! Bert

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> >> BTW - I am running in split axis mode, using a MOMO wheel > I had some problems using a TSW and pedals too, but they "went > away" after playing a while, so I guess "calib lock" has taken > care of them. > The symtoms are that if I press the brake pedal slightly it > will sometimes get "stuck" at being applied half way, even > though I release the brake. > A hefty stomp on the pedal usually cures the problem in-car, > but well, now the problem has gone away all by itself it seems. > Other sims (papy, f1c) work fine on the same setup, so it's not > a pot / hw problem. > Cheers, > uwe > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Thanks Uwe, > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the

brake

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> pedal is not being touched. > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > Thanks! > > Bert

did you click the recalibrate button

Yes, I've clicked on recalibrate -- many times. I notice that the brake "drags" more, the further I drag the Brk/Throttle balance slider to the left. Dragging the slider all the way to the right minimizes the drag, but it's still definitely there. frederickson wrote:

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> "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks Uwe, > > > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the > brake > > pedal is not being touched. > > > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > did you click the recalibrate button

Yes, I've clicked on recalibrate -- many times. I notice that the brake "drags" more, the further I drag the Brk/Throttle balance slider to the left. Dragging the slider all the way to the right minimizes the drag, but it's still definitely there.

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> > Thanks Uwe, > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the > brake > > pedal is not being touched. > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > Thanks! > > Bert > did you click the recalibrate button

In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <"bertrh<no- spam>"@attbi.com> says...

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> Thanks Uwe, > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the brake > pedal is not being touched. > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > Thanks! > > Bert

Yes, I had the exact same problem with my TSW. Get DXTweak2 from www.wingmanteam.com and adjust your Y axis settings. I changed mine to: Min 100 Cen 128 Max 255 You can save custom settings and reload them when needed. LFS drives great now!! Good luck.

Thanks, Gary. DXTweak2 and your values did the trick! I still have one question though, that still hasn't been asnwered..... Exactly what does "Thr/brk centre reduction" do? Thanks again, Bert Gary Antel wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, BRH <"bertrh<no- > spam>"@attbi.com> says... > > Thanks Uwe, > > > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the brake > > pedal is not being touched. > > > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > > Yes, I had the exact same problem with my TSW. Get DXTweak2 from > www.wingmanteam.com and adjust your Y axis settings. I changed mine to: > Min 100 > Cen 128 > Max 255 > You can save custom settings and reload them when needed. > LFS drives great now!! Good luck.

Thanks, Gary. DXTweak2 and your values did the trick! I still have one question though, that still hasn't been asnwered..... Exactly what does "Thr/brk centre reduction" do? Thanks again, Bert

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> > Thanks Uwe, > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the brake > > pedal is not being touched. > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > Thanks! > > Bert > Yes, I had the exact same problem with my TSW. Get DXTweak2 from > www.wingmanteam.com and adjust your Y axis settings. I changed mine to: > Min 100 > Cen 128 > Max 255 > You can save custom settings and reload them when needed. > LFS drives great now!! Good luck.

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:59:28 -0400, BRH wrote:

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> Thanks Uwe, > > Yes, although the LFS controller screen has many options, it seems more > sensitive than most. I just replaced my brake pedal pot and followed the > TSW pot settings procedure to insure that the ranges between throttle and > brake do not overlap. (I set the raw values using GPL, and verified that > I'm not "riding" the brake when it's not pressed, using the NR2003 replay > screen.) However, as soon as I try LFS, no matter what I do, the brake > pedal is always at least slightly applied. This is verified in the > replays, as the brake lights are constantly flickering, even when the brake > pedal is not being touched. > > Does anyone else have this problem? If so, how did you solve it? I want > to get LFS to work properly before buying it. > > Thanks!

Hi Bert, have you tried the rewiring trick on my website? It's easily done (no soldering required) and no biggie (no soldering required). http://www.schuerkamp.de/zope/hoover/racing/ Best of luck, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61