RASCAR: Pocono

Hmm, No talk about this track at all? I like this one and have been doing a lot of practice as well as racing online, course on sierra it is a lot different. As one racer put it "There sure were a lot of chicanes out there tonite." :-) I came in sixth having missed all of the wrecks somehow. After watching DW's drive around Pocono on trackside tonite I tried adjusting my line to what he was saying and have now scrubbed the entire wall all the way around I think, :( I have had a lot of luck going off the gas early and then a late entry into one, floating into 2 while downshifting and riding 3rd into 3 with pretty heavy breaking into the entry, then accelerate hard onto the straight. Still not running anything lower than low 56.xx but that is probably because I am not running really smooth lines. This new equipment has helped a lot and I think I have the settings to where I am comfortable. I am now trying to find different lines and the best way around so that feels like a breakthrough as I have spent so much time just working on being able to get around the track. Can anyone give me a better line to run around the track or have I found a pretty decent way? My line seems to allow me to catch cars and pass on the outside of 2, then I lose time in 3 and generally end up fighting the same car I just passed into 1, so there must be something there?? -- McWhom -----------------------------------------------------------------

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> Hmm, No talk about this track at all? I like this one and have been doing a > lot of practice as well as racing online, course on sierra it is a lot > different. As one racer put it "There sure were a lot of chicanes out there > tonite." :-) I came in sixth having missed all of the wrecks somehow. > After watching DW's drive around Pocono on trackside tonite I tried > adjusting my line to what he was saying and have now scrubbed the entire > wall all the way around I think, :( > I have had a lot of luck going off the gas early and then a late entry into > one, floating into 2 while downshifting and riding 3rd into 3 with pretty > heavy breaking into the entry, then accelerate hard onto the straight. > Still not running anything lower than low 56.xx but that is probably because > I am not running really smooth lines. This new equipment has helped a lot > and I think I have the settings to where I am comfortable. I am now trying > to find different lines and the best way around so that feels like a > breakthrough as I have spent so much time just working on being able to get > around the track. > > Can anyone give me a better line to run around the track or have I found a > pretty decent way? My line seems to allow me to catch cars and pass on the > outside of 2, then I lose time in 3 and generally end up fighting the same > car I just passed into 1, so there must be something there?? > -- > McWhom

I've managed a couple of 54.2's, but the only way I've managed that is by downshifting for turns 1 and 3 (I don't downshift in 2 unless I come in too hot and need more control). The whole secret here is how well you come off the turns. You might get better times if you slow your entry into 3.

Although I wont be able to make the race today (working, I'm in construction) my problem is definately turn 3. What a tortuous turn. I always feel like I'm going in too slow and always, and I mean ALWAYS find myself going too fast. Harumph! Other than that, I concur with John on using third for turn one, although that seemed odd to me, as I seem to remember using fourth all the way from the exit of turn three to the entrance of turn two and now I seem to be using third gear as the primary racing gear. Seems like the Fast Setups gearing is just a little off. Oh well, with the new late start time, I hope to be participating on most Saturdays. Good luck to eveyone in todays race and I will be looking forward to the post-race remarks here in R.A.S... Mike

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:26:08 -0400, "mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have had a lot of luck going off the gas early and then a late entry into >one, floating into 2 while downshifting and riding 3rd into 3 with pretty >heavy breaking into the entry, then accelerate hard onto the straight. >Still not running anything lower than low 56.xx but that is probably because >I am not running really smooth lines. This new equipment has helped a lot >and I think I have the settings to where I am comfortable. I am now trying >to find different lines and the best way around so that feels like a >breakthrough as I have spent so much time just working on being able to get >around the track.

Haven't driven there lately, but as I remember the ideal line is something like... Brake when you see the groove for turn 1, downshift to 3rd, get off the brake as the turn starts and the groove darkens, and use one of the signs as a guide for getting on the throttle (or is there a "Pocono" label on the wall? I forget). Turn 2 you should be redlining in third, brake when the groove starts, off the brake and coast/turn in when it darkens, on the throttle hard when you see the 'nascar racing' logo on the wall. Turn 3 brake at the groove, off when it darkens and turn in really tight against the curbing, I believe the third sign is the signal to floor it and if you keep close to the inside you should drift out perfectly to the wall, just missing it. Then upshift after you pass the start/finish line and do it again. Good times in the fast setup in N2002 were 54.9 as I remember, I'm guessing N2003 would be mid to low 54's. Jason

On 07 Jun 2003 16:03:01 GMT, Race1530 wrote: > Although I wont be able to make the race today (working, I'm in construction) > my problem is definately turn 3. What a tortuous turn. I always feel like I'm > going in too slow and always, and I mean ALWAYS find myself going too fast. > Harumph! During practise today I found that the "fast" setup suffers from exit-corner oversteer, but only during the first couple of laps until lap 5 or so. After that, the power-on oversteer somehow magically disappears. It's a problem esp. in turn 3 leading onto the S/F straight, so I'll try to keep my patience there today ;-) BTW, has anyone done a cockpit paintjob for n2003 featuring the large "patience" sticker that was in earlier versions of Nascar Racing? Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race.

On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:08 GMT, John Simmons wrote: > Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > Still, it was the cleanest racing I have yet seen in N2003, although I dropped out with about 20 laps to go because of my own stupidity. After a long RASCAR absence please let me say that I am quite glad to be back with the lot, and thanks again for a) pushing back the start time b) allowing Marco to race this one, he enjoyed it! c) for being such a clean bunch of guys to race with. All the best, Uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Shame that John :( If there is a bright side, there were slightly more starters. Most of the latter part of the race was green and I had more fun racing Ian and Ginger (and getting beat) than I have had in any Nascar race for ages. Absolutely brilliant stuff. Grats to Ging and Ian - class acts. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > > >

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> Shame that John :( > > If there is a bright side, there were slightly more starters. Most of > the latter part of the race was green and I had more fun racing Ian > and Ginger (and getting beat) than I have had in any Nascar race for > ages. Absolutely brilliant stuff. > > Grats to Ging and Ian - class acts. >

Except for my lonesome spin in T2, Lap 1 :( (haven't checked the replay yet, hope I didn't cause anyone else to be involved) Otherwise I had a great race, congrats to Ginger for the win and to Neil for making my life really tough :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

"John Simmons" wrote... > Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in > turn 3, and instantly, four or five cars out of 15 > are eliminated from the race. Sorry to drop out, but I have a serious controller problem on my hands. The throttle of my MOMO now reads stuck wide open, the brake does nothing when pressed. I've tried uninstalling, removing calibration data via DXTweak and re-installing using latest Wingman Software, but no dice. I'll try it on my old system tomorrow and if it don't work there it looks like I'll be spending Monday tracking down a new Logitech MOMO Force... <sigh> Jan. =---

"Jan Verschueren" wrote... > <snip> Just to specify: I dropped out from practise. The problem became apparent then and not during the race. Cheers, Jan. =---

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and : instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. : : : Sorry to see that happen so early to you guys. I got bounced into the wall a few laps later, 20?, I wasn't having much luck cornering, and from there even though I got repaired my car really would not turn. Some of you guys did a pretty good job of getting around my loose ass! :) I sorry I took out our newcomer by missing a shift going into three and that was the end of my day....mostly caution laps. Would there be something that would make the car handle differently on the rascar server from the sierra servers?? Maybe I just had a bad day but it sure did seem to drive tighter yesterday in online races. Anyway, I still love being out there on the track with you guys, hope to see the end of another one soon :-) -- McWhom -----------------------------------------------------------------

Would have been nice to run with you all tonight. I fully intended to, logged on but was blocked from joining. I suspect that the powers that be never put me on the list. Wasn't much fun sitting in the chatroom, watching the time ticking down whilst practice was in full flow !! MS "mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > : Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > : instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > : > : > : > > Sorry to see that happen so early to you guys. I got bounced into the

wall > a few laps later, 20?, I wasn't having much luck cornering, and from there > even though I got repaired my car really would not turn. Some of you guys > did a pretty good job of getting around my loose ass! :) I sorry I tookout > our newcomer by missing a shift going into three and that was the end ofmy

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> day....mostly caution laps. > Would there be something that would make the car handle differently on the > rascar server from the sierra servers?? Maybe I just had a bad day but it > sure did seem to drive tighter yesterday in online races. Anyway, I still > love being out there on the track with you guys, hope to see the end of > another one soon :-) > > -- > McWhom > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:38:09 +0000 (UTC), "mark.seery" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Would have been nice to run with you all tonight. I fully intended to, >logged on but was blocked from joining. I suspect that the powers that be >never put me on the list. > >Wasn't much fun sitting in the chatroom, watching the time ticking down >whilst practice was in full flow !! > >MS

I had the same problem. It said I had the wrong password. I installed the game on a new PC and had my name set correctly. I'm kinda bummed, I wanted to test a new DSL connection. Maybe next week I'll have my main PC hooked up to the DSL line. Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

In article <[email hidden]>, ZZ <[email hidden]> writes: >I had the same problem. It said I had the wrong password. I installed >the game on a new PC and had my name set correctly. I'm kinda bummed, >I wanted to test a new DSL connection. There isn't a password, ZZ - you have to be on the invite list. You should have been able to leave the password field blank. If that didn't work, double-check that the ID you use is the one on the RASCAR roster page... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <bbtt11$23r$[email hidden]>, "mark.seery" <[email hidden]> writes: >Would have been nice to run with you all tonight. I fully intended to, >logged on but was blocked from joining. I suspect that the powers that be >never put me on the list. Sorry, Mark - I didn't see the request message until just now. You'll be on for next race. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On 08 Jun 2003 01:39:13 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >There isn't a password, ZZ - you have to be on the invite list. You should >have been able to leave the password field blank. If that didn't work, >double-check that the ID you use is the one on the RASCAR roster page... > >Eldred I did check the roster page to make sure I had the right nick. I wonder if it has to do with installing the game on another PC. You know, like the game can only be used on one PC. Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

"Jan Verschueren" wrote... > > <snip> > Sorry to drop out, but I have a serious controller problem > on my hands. The throttle of my MOMO now reads stuck wide > open, the brake does nothing when pressed. Update: it's a wiring fault... if I wiggle the wire at the wheel end the throttle and brake jump about. This can and will be easily fixed thanks to Jone Tytlandsvik and his very usefull MOMO page: http://www.tytlandsvik.no/momo/ Jan. =---

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> Neil Charlton wrote: >> Shame that John :( >> >> If there is a bright side, there were slightly more starters. Most of >> the latter part of the race was green and I had more fun racing Ian >> and Ginger (and getting beat) than I have had in any Nascar race for >> ages. Absolutely brilliant stuff. >> >> Grats to Ging and Ian - class acts. >> > > Except for my lonesome spin in T2, Lap 1 :( (haven't checked the > replay yet, hope I didn't cause anyone else to be involved) > Otherwise I had a great race, congrats to Ginger for the win and to > Neil for making my life really tough :)

Ok, just checked my replay and I owe John a big sorry for the nudge I gave him as I spun back up the track. Sorry John, hope it didn't cause too much of a problem for you. I think I may owe Uwe an apology too, I thought you were staying high to let me through but then you came back down while I was making a move (following Neil through). I didn't realise at the time we had made contact, but after seeing the replay it seems it put you in the wall, sorry. While I'm making my apologies, I'm going to offer some advice to some of the newer drivers. A: Don't swerve when someone is passing you. Try and hold a steady line when exiting corners (several times I had to slam the brakes on because someone moved across while I was about to pass) B: Keep up with the pace line / pace car. Someone dropped back about 8 secs on one of the restarts. C: Don't let Ginger win, now that Tim White isn't racing no one else has a chance :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

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> Ian P wrote: > > Neil Charlton wrote: > >> Shame that John :( > >> > >> If there is a bright side, there were slightly more starters. Most of > >> the latter part of the race was green and I had more fun racing Ian > >> and Ginger (and getting beat) than I have had in any Nascar race for > >> ages. Absolutely brilliant stuff. > >> > >> Grats to Ging and Ian - class acts. > >> > > > > Except for my lonesome spin in T2, Lap 1 :( (haven't checked the > > replay yet, hope I didn't cause anyone else to be involved) > > Otherwise I had a great race, congrats to Ginger for the win and to > > Neil for making my life really tough :) > > Ok, just checked my replay and I owe John a big sorry for the nudge I gave > him as I spun back up the track. Sorry John, hope it didn't cause too much > of a problem for you. >

Actually, I scraped the wall as I went by you - I don't think you touched me at all. No worries, but I did get damage, and pitted which placed me near the end of the pack. If I had just gone ahead and stayed out, I wouldn't have been caught up in the crap in turn 3 after the restart.

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > Thank you for restarting the race for me, John. (I tried to grab a quick break b4 the start & just missed it). My race was messed up from the early going... After pitting w/ Ian during the 2nd yellow (don't know what lap, my replay doesn't start 'til lap 14... gotta up that replay mem :o/ ), I restarted back in the pack. There was a free for all in turn 2, Ian made it through, I didn't. Got tagged from behind exiting 2, tho it may have been my fault (I might have drifted up into someone) Won't know for sure until I can dl the full replay. Anyway, I think I was the only 1 to get in trouble, hitting the wall & getting some damage, so I pitted to repair it b4 realising that there was no yellow (duh). Lost a lap, & w/ minor aero damage (could see a little bit of the hood sticking up) , lost ~5-10 mph top end. :o( After a few restarts, where I tried to stay w/ the leaders (hopeless) to get a lap back, I was just cruising when, on the last (or next to last) yellow at lap 51, The flying Brits (Ginger, Neil, & Ian), who were at least 10 seconds ahead of me,slowed enough (alot!) to let me get the lap back. Because of my job, I'm not able to make as many of these races as I would like, & the races I did get to have left a little to be desired (random breakdowns(2), my own silly goofs, & the occasional punt). Again, thx JS for the restart, & to Ginger, Neil, & Ian, some of the best guys you could ever hope to race with. I'm honored to race w/ you guys. -Brian

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 17:12:01 +0100, Ian P wrote: > I think I may owe Uwe an apology too, I thought you were staying high to let > me through but then you came back down while I was making a move (following > Neil through). I didn't realise at the time we had made contact, but after > seeing the replay it seems it put you in the wall, sorry. NP Ian, if I came back down it's totally my fault (too stupid to save the replay, so I cannot check "my" view of things, sorry ;-) Bye for now, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I was one of them :( I had the whole thing missed, then WHAMMO! A car came up out of the infield from nowhere and that was that. I tried to continue, but after getting caught up in a another similar second incident out of turn 1, I had to throw in the towel. My last 3 races have been disasters. Man, I hope Michican is better. It's a big wide track! -Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > > >

After getting caught up in someone elses spin for the second time, my rear end was hosed. After repairs (LOL!) I went into turn 1, the rear came around due to no down-force, and I corrected. Then the front end snapped around and man I hit the wall like head-on. That was the fastest snap-to and hit into the wall I think I've ever experienced in Nascar Racing. I was hurt too bad to continue after that. Pocono can really kill race cars. Them walls is hard! Speaking of which, am I the only one that was holding their breath until they saw Green get out of that #1 car? That almost ranks up there with Michael Waltrips instant-destructo wreck at Bristol several years back when he hit that gate entrance coming out of 4. I was very, very concerned over that #1 car wreck. -Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > > >

Was this when we touched while I was passing? If so, sorry about that. My car was Evil after the turn-3 incident, but it was still reasonably fast so I couldn't bring myself to quit. I thought there was plenty of room between us, but maybe not :( After getting caught up in the second incident exiting turn 1, and my insuing 'boink' into the turn 1 wall on my own, I finally had to throw in the towel... At that point, the car was Evil AND pissed off :) -Larry "mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > : Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > : instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > : > : > : > > Sorry to see that happen so early to you guys. I got bounced into the

wall > a few laps later, 20?, I wasn't having much luck cornering, and from there > even though I got repaired my car really would not turn. Some of you guys > did a pretty good job of getting around my loose ass! :) I sorry I tookout > our newcomer by missing a shift going into three and that was the end ofmy

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> day....mostly caution laps. > Would there be something that would make the car handle differently on the > rascar server from the sierra servers?? Maybe I just had a bad day but it > sure did seem to drive tighter yesterday in online races. Anyway, I still > love being out there on the track with you guys, hope to see the end of > another one soon :-) > > -- > McWhom > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >

>> Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and >> instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. Well I didn't make it. I ended up taking a friend's Saturday shift. Gotta work this Sat too so I'll miss next week. But...who lost it at Pocono seven laps in? Curiosity = dead cat :) Dan

"Bamadano" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >> Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > >> instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > > Well I didn't make it. I ended up taking a friend's Saturday shift. Gottawork > this Sat too so I'll miss next week. But...who lost it at Pocono sevenlaps in? > Curiosity = dead cat :) > Dan Me and I wasn't the first to spin. Outside pole looped it on the first lap and someone else spun in front of me on the way to the caution on lap 1. In my unfortunate incident, I got distracted watching David go through T3 practically sideways(nice save) and went in too hot. Car behind T-boned me and then I was flipping and spinning. 2 or 3 cars farther back joined in a little later. Won't be happening again since I'm not running anymore. Everyone that isn't a prick continue to have fun. Kyle

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OQbFa.10$8p2.9@lakeread04... : After getting caught up in someone elses spin for the second time, my rear : end was hosed. After repairs (LOL!) I went into turn 1, the rear came : around due to no down-force, and I corrected. Then the front end snapped : around and man I hit the wall like head-on. That was the fastest snap-to : and hit into the wall I think I've ever experienced in Nascar Racing. I was : hurt too bad to continue after that. : : Pocono can really kill race cars. Them walls is hard! : : Speaking of which, am I the only one that was holding their breath until : they saw Green get out of that #1 car? That almost ranks up there with : Michael Waltrips instant-destructo wreck at Bristol several years back when : he hit that gate entrance coming out of 4. : : I was very, very concerned over that #1 car wreck. : : -Larry : : "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:[email hidden]... : <snip> Yepper, I was definatly watching to see how he was, hard to believe he hit the one place that did not have the earthen wall behind it. After watching Kenny get out his barrel role and fire so non-chalantly, well I am starting to think they have these drivers pretty well protected. It's those damn sliding sideways into walls that seems to really be hurting drivers anymore. My replay of our contact is actually pretty kewl, I was slowing a good bit going into corners because I was so loose. I go into the corner and you can just see that my ass is hanging out, you had already been catching me and came in exactly the same *BUT FASTER* :-0 I was up a lane but you were hanging out too and we just touched, it was like a bomb went off between us or something, we just exploded apart and I into the wall. That really killed my handling and then I double downshifted into second (oops) going into three and I whipped around. That killed my engine and ended my race :-( -- McWhom -----------------------------------------------------------------

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> >Well I didn't make it. I ended up taking a friend's Saturday shift. Gotta >work >this Sat too so I'll miss next week. But...who lost it at Pocono seven laps >in? >Curiosity = dead cat :) >Dan

I can't knock *anyone* for that...I lost it on Lap 1 at California... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >Me and I wasn't the first to spin. Outside pole looped it on the first lap >and someone else spun in front of me on the way to the caution on lap 1. In >my unfortunate incident, I got distracted watching David go through T3 >practically sideways(nice save) and went in too hot. Car behind T-boned me >and then I was flipping and spinning. 2 or 3 cars farther back joined in a >little later. Won't be happening again since I'm not running anymore. >Everyone that isn't a prick continue to have fun.

Why are you calling anyone a prick? Just because someone spun, you start calling names...? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Why are you calling anyone a ***? Just because someone spun, you start calling names...? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well I definitely hope you continue to race. You're one of the best drivers, and I've never heard a bad word out of you in RASCAR. When I see your blue car nearby I know I'm in for some very challenging, clean racing. Ignore John's comment and keep racing. David G Fisher "Kyle Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5_fFa.41288$[email hidden]...

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> > "Bamadano" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >> Just seven laps into the race, someone looses it in turn 3, and > > >> instantly, four or five cars out of 15 are eliminated from the race. > > > > Well I didn't make it. I ended up taking a friend's Saturday shift.

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> work > > this Sat too so I'll miss next week. But...who lost it at Pocono seven > laps in? > > Curiosity = dead cat :) > > Dan > > Me and I wasn't the first to spin. Outside pole looped it on the first lap > and someone else spun in front of me on the way to the caution on lap 1.

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> my unfortunate incident, I got distracted watching David go through T3 > practically sideways(nice save) and went in too hot. Car behind T-boned me > and then I was flipping and spinning. 2 or 3 cars farther back joined in a > little later. Won't be happening again since I'm not running anymore. > Everyone that isn't a prick continue to have fun. > > Kyle > >

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > >Me and I wasn't the first to spin. Outside pole looped it on the firstlap > >and someone else spun in front of me on the way to the caution on lap 1.In > >my unfortunate incident, I got distracted watching David go through T3 > >practically sideways(nice save) and went in too hot. Car behind T-bonedme > >and then I was flipping and spinning. 2 or 3 cars farther back joined ina

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> >little later. Won't be happening again since I'm not running anymore. > >Everyone that isn't a prick continue to have fun. > > Why are you calling anyone a prick? Just because someone spun, you start > calling names...? > > Eldred

John made an unecessary comment after the yellow came out when Kyle spun. David G Fisher

David G Fisher wrote: > > John made an unecessary comment after the yellow came out when Kyle spun. What...who....John ? Never..... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > >Me and I wasn't the first to spin. Outside pole looped it on the first > lap > > >and someone else spun in front of me on the way to the caution on lap 1. > In > > >my unfortunate incident, I got distracted watching David go through T3 > > >practically sideways(nice save) and went in too hot. Car behind T-boned > me > > >and then I was flipping and spinning. 2 or 3 cars farther back joined in > a > > >little later. Won't be happening again since I'm not running anymore. > > >Everyone that isn't a prick continue to have fun. > > > > Why are you calling anyone a prick? Just because someone spun, you start > > calling names...? > > > > Eldred > > John made an unecessary comment after the yellow came out when Kyle spun. > > David G Fisher > > >

It was a statement made in the heat of the moment. Kyle's gotta understand that comments are always made after a big wreck. My comment was: "People need to deflate their egos and turn on driving aids if their having trouble with the setup." I was running with stability on simply because of the first five laps of wicked loose we were all seeing in the setup. *I* was the car that t-boned him after he wrecked (or got wrecked) in turn 3. That wreck elminated me from the race. I was mad. I said what I though and did not even review the replay. I don't want to see Paul quit over this, but he does need to grow some thicker skin.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> > > >Me and I wasn't the first to spin. Outside pole looped it on the first lap > >and someone else spun in front of me on the way to the caution on lap 1. In > >my unfortunate incident, I got distracted watching David go through T3 > >practically sideways(nice save) and went in too hot. Car behind T-boned me > >and then I was flipping and spinning. 2 or 3 cars farther back joined in a > >little later. Won't be happening again since I'm not running anymore. > >Everyone that isn't a prick continue to have fun. > > Why are you calling anyone a prick? Just because someone spun, you start > calling names...? > > Eldred >

He's calling me a prick, and I think it's appropriate (I'm certainly used to it). :)

He's calling me a ***, and I think it's appropriate (I'm certainly used to it). :)

That would be known as the infamous "collision physics", which can get rather comical at times. What happens is you touch very lightly, and at that exact instant there is a latency spike or something and the collision physics things the cars hit each other at mach-1 instead of barely touching. I've seen it send cars stories high into the air. Kind of like that golf ball at the end of Caddy Shack. "Just TAP it in"... BOOM! :) -Larry "mcwhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OQbFa.10$8p2.9@lakeread04... > : After getting caught up in someone elses spin for the second time, myrear > : end was hosed. After repairs (LOL!) I went into turn 1, the rear came > : around due to no down-force, and I corrected. Then the front endsnapped > : around and man I hit the wall like head-on. That was the fastestsnap-to

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> : and hit into the wall I think I've ever experienced in Nascar Racing. I > was > : hurt too bad to continue after that. > : > : Pocono can really kill race cars. Them walls is hard! > : > : Speaking of which, am I the only one that was holding their breath until > : they saw Green get out of that #1 car? That almost ranks up there with > : Michael Waltrips instant-destructo wreck at Bristol several years back > when > : he hit that gate entrance coming out of 4. > : > : I was very, very concerned over that #1 car wreck. > : > : -Larry > : > : "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > : news:[email hidden]... > : > <snip> > > Yepper, I was definatly watching to see how he was, hard to believe

he > hit the one place that did not have the earthen wall behind it. > After watching Kenny get out his barrel role and fire sonon-chalantly, > well I am starting to think they have these drivers pretty well protected. > It's those damn sliding sideways into walls that seems to really behurting > drivers anymore. > > My replay of our contact is actually pretty kewl, I was slowing agood > bit going into corners because I was so loose. I go into the corner andyou > can just see that my ass is hanging out, you had already been catching me > and came in exactly the same *BUT FASTER* :-0 I was up a lane but youwere > hanging out too and we just touched, it was like a bomb went off betweenus

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> or something, we just exploded apart and I into the wall. That really > killed my handling and then I double downshifted into second (oops) going > into three and I whipped around. That killed my engine and ended my race > :-( > -- > McWhom > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >