Logitech G25 Questions...

I've been simming for years and currently have 2 x BRD F1 Sim style wheel and pedal set-ups, one on my desk, and one on my Race Frame pro cockpit. However, I'm thinking of finally getting a FF wheel, and the G25 looks good. I'd appreciate if anyone can answer a few questions about it.... Can you adjust the pedal angle? Can you adjust the pedal resistance? How do you attach the wheel to a desk? Is the build quality good? Does it come with software to set up profiles for different games? If you have any other comments on the G25 they would be welcomed... Thanx

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> > I've been simming for years and currently have 2 x BRD F1 Sim style wheel > and pedal set-ups, one on my desk, and one on my Race Frame pro cockpit. > > However, I'm thinking of finally getting a FF wheel, and the G25 looks > good. > > I'd appreciate if anyone can answer a few questions about it.... > > Can you adjust the pedal angle?

No, but the angle seems much better than previous Logitech pedals. > Can you adjust the pedal resistance?No again. > How do you attach the wheel to a desk?The wheel has two clamps and the shifter two clamps and a center screw. The clamps will fit just about any desk thickness from 4-5" down to 1". > Is the build quality good?Very good. Probably the best in the price range and very close the the quality of much more expensive wheels. > Does it come with software to set up profiles for different games?Yes. It has basically the same profiler software that past Logitech wheels had. > > If you have any other comments on the G25 they would be welcomed... I like mine. The FF can be a little strong but can be adjusted down within the Control Panel/Game Controller area or within the sim itself. Pedal resistance is pretty good, much better than the Momo (which I went through 6 of over 2yrs because of pedal failure). The main downside of the system is that I would like to have more than just the two buttons on the wheel. There are plenty on the shifter. I like all the steel parts. Pedals, wheel and internals are of very good quality. The wheel is also a bit larger than previous Logitech wheels and I like the feel of that. Overall, I like the unit a lot. To get better quality you would have to go to a wheel costing probably twice the G25 price. Ed > > Thanx >

Ed answered your other questions, but bear this in mind... Currently, the G25 is a big $300 paperweight under Vista, so if you are moving to Vista you will have to do without it for a while. How long no one knows. -Larry "pg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I've been simming for years and currently have 2 x BRD F1 Sim style wheel > and pedal set-ups, one on my desk, and one on my Race Frame pro cockpit. > > However, I'm thinking of finally getting a FF wheel, and the G25 looks > good. > > I'd appreciate if anyone can answer a few questions about it.... > > Can you adjust the pedal angle? > Can you adjust the pedal resistance? > How do you attach the wheel to a desk? > Is the build quality good? > Does it come with software to set up profiles for different games? > > If you have any other comments on the G25 they would be welcomed... > > Thanx >

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> Ed answered your other questions, but bear this in mind... > > Currently, the G25 is a big $300 paperweight under Vista, so if you are > moving to Vista you will have to do without it for a while. How long no > one knows. > > -Larry

I didn't know that Larry. I tested Vista and the black Momo worked fine, albeit most sims that would run at all ran slower than in XP. Is it a driver issue or something more? Ed

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4khDh.169305$[email hidden]... >> Ed answered your other questions, but bear this in mind... >> >> Currently, the G25 is a big $300 paperweight under Vista, so if you are >> moving to Vista you will have to do without it for a while. How long no >> one knows. >> > I didn't know that Larry. I tested Vista and the black Momo worked fine, > albeit most sims that would run at all ran slower than in XP. Is it a > driver issue or something more?

Yep. There is no Vista specific driver. The basic functions of the wheel wil work under Vista, but only with 270 degrees of lock. I've been without my sim racing for a month now, waiting for logitech to come up with the drivers...

Damnit, you guys didnt say anyting about this earlier!?!?!?... lol. I know/knew Vista wasnt going to be good for my MS sidewinder, so I ordered the g25... can you say shee--iiitt! Tim Epstein wrote:

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> "ED" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:muGDh.524$[email hidden]... >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:4khDh.169305$[email hidden]... >>> Ed answered your other questions, but bear this in mind... >>> >>> Currently, the G25 is a big $300 paperweight under Vista, so if you >>> are moving to Vista you will have to do without it for a while. How long >>> no one knows. >>> >> I didn't know that Larry. I tested Vista and the black Momo worked >> fine, albeit most sims that would run at all ran slower than in XP. >> Is it a driver issue or something more? > > Yep. There is no Vista specific driver. The basic functions of the > wheel wil work under Vista, but only with 270 degrees of lock. I've > been without my sim racing for a month now, waiting for logitech to > come up with the drivers...

It's the whole package. Both the profiler and drivers are dead. -Larry "ED" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:muGDh.524$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4khDh.169305$[email hidden]... >> Ed answered your other questions, but bear this in mind... >> >> Currently, the G25 is a big $300 paperweight under Vista, so if you are >> moving to Vista you will have to do without it for a while. How long no >> one knows. >> >> -Larry > > I didn't know that Larry. I tested Vista and the black Momo worked fine, > albeit most sims that would run at all ran slower than in XP. Is it a > driver issue or something more? > > Ed >

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:38:43 GMT, Plowboy wrote: > Damnit, you guys didnt say anyting about this earlier!?!?!?... > lol. > > I know/knew Vista wasnt going to be good for my MS sidewinder, so I ordered > the g25... can you say shee--iiitt! > Just stay with XP then, Why change when everything works fine? Cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Thanx for the info. But I'm still using XP here and have no current plans to change And, I've still got my BRD wheel and pedal set-ups to fall back on if I have to... BTW, I've received and installed my G25 now and it is working great. 8-)

DIdnt see your reply, because I have been busy at all after work hours, lately... and at work LOL. Uwe, My problem is I am IT during the day, and Super Tech at night... I have quite a few people (I live in a small town of roughtly 1200-1600 people, one Highschool etc.) Everyone knows to ask me when they have a PC problem, and I mean enough to make a few "tips" here and there. SO I have saved my tips, to get Vista, and I dont want to give up my gaming. Since after all Gaming made me become a computer support guy in the 1st place... LOL. So in short form, I need to get Vista before everyone else does, because even at work I need to order about 4 PC's and it is hard to get XP on anything nowdays. so I call it a career investment. Right now Vista, I call it Job security, what a cluster f**k I see it what little I have tried to do with it... BTW, say you buy a new PC and wanna move stuff from old Xp box (instead of in place upgrade like I am doing with My box...) Window Easy Transfer bullshit doesnt seem to transfer your Outlook Express messages nor address book, not by default NOR even by trying to figure it out in "custom"... now of course this person was the 1st machine I have had to do this for, and I am already frustrated spent 4 hours last night working on this problem. BTW, Who do you know doesnt want to keep emails, you know, that they have kept them THIS LONG? Cryin out loud MS!! I see a lot more tips in my future, especially since about August last year I was suggesting to many, (partially because I had been too busy) "wait until we see what vista is," you know.... yeah I have posted in some forums, see if those smarter than me have figured this out... PS file simple type "shareing" on Vista is not simple anymore AFAI Can Tell, and I mean on a simple network behind or even ot connected to the internet... damn... Uwe Sch�rkamp enlightened us with:

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> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:38:43 GMT, Plowboy wrote: >> Damnit, you guys didnt say anyting about this earlier!?!?!?... >> lol. >> >> I know/knew Vista wasnt going to be good for my MS sidewinder, so I >> ordered the g25... can you say shee--iiitt! >> > > Just stay with XP then, Why change when everything works fine? > > Cheers, uwe > > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

This is why I never use OE for email. Only newsgroups. The way it stores data is insane. I only use Outlook. One PST file is all it takes. OE in Vista (Renamed the "Mail" application) is supposed to store data differently but I've not got much desire to look into it further. And the Plonk menu choice is gone. Damn! It now uses the junk mail filter for this. -Larry "Plowboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OPiFh.308$[email hidden]...

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> DIdnt see your reply, because I have been busy at all after work hours, > lately... and at work LOL. > > Uwe, My problem is I am IT during the day, and Super Tech at night... I > have quite a few people (I live in a small town of roughtly 1200-1600 > people, one Highschool etc.) Everyone knows to ask me when they have a PC > problem, and I mean enough to make a few "tips" here and there. SO I have > saved my tips, to get Vista, and I dont want to give up my gaming. Since > after all Gaming made me become a computer support guy in the 1st place... > LOL. > > So in short form, I need to get Vista before everyone else does, because > even at work I need to order about 4 PC's and it is hard to get XP on > anything nowdays. so I call it a career investment. > > Right now Vista, I call it Job security, what a cluster f**k I see it what > little I have tried to do with it... BTW, say you buy a new PC and wanna > move stuff from old Xp box (instead of in place upgrade like I am doing > with My box...) Window Easy Transfer bullshit doesnt seem to transfer > your Outlook Express messages nor address book, not by default NOR even by > trying to figure it out in "custom"... now of course this person was the > 1st machine I have had to do this for, and I am already frustrated spent 4 > hours last night working on this problem. > > BTW, Who do you know doesnt want to keep emails, you know, that they have > kept them THIS LONG? Cryin out loud MS!! I see a lot more tips in my > future, especially since about August last year I was suggesting to many, > (partially because I had been too busy) "wait until we see what vista is," > you know.... > > yeah I have posted in some forums, see if those smarter than me have > figured this out... > > PS file simple type "shareing" on Vista is not simple anymore AFAI Can > Tell, and I mean on a simple network behind or even ot connected to the > internet... damn... > > > > > Uwe Sch�rkamp enlightened us with: >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:38:43 GMT, Plowboy wrote: >>> Damnit, you guys didnt say anyting about this earlier!?!?!?... >>> lol. >>> >>> I know/knew Vista wasnt going to be good for my MS sidewinder, so I >>> ordered the g25... can you say shee--iiitt! >>> >> >> Just stay with XP then, Why change when everything works fine? >> >> Cheers, uwe >> >> >> -- >> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > >

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:18:37 -0600, Plowboy wrote: > So in short form, I need to get Vista before everyone else does, because > even at work I need to order about 4 PC's and it is hard to get XP on > anything nowdays. so I call it a career investment. > I can follow your reasoning there if your career path is in Windows administration. I hope you'll be able to get your hands on a separate gaming machine then which won't be pestered by Vista compat issues ;-) All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:13:07 -0500, Larry wrote: > This is why I never use OE for email. Only newsgroups. The way it stores > data is insane. > I've been a die-hard console email client mail user (elm, pine, mutt, heck even mail on Ultrix ;-) for nearly 20 years now, but now I do most of my private mailing using google mail. It's taken a lot to get me to like any sort or form of graphical email client, but gmail did just that. Loads of storage, good spam filtering, usable from anywhere and compatible with all sorts of local mail clients (should you still prefer those) + google groups to top it all off, so I'm very satisfied with the setup. I still use mutt for work email though (when at work or logged into my work machine over ssh), but apart from that google mail's the way to go (if you don't have issues with a 3rd party storing your email for you, but that's basically the same with any ms proprietary format that isn't properly documented and open). All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Right now, I plan to dual boot with removable hard drive trays. wont be the same, you know doing everything twice, lol. but XP wil be the gaming boot disk, and I can clean a lot of other crap off that install, hehehe. Uwe Sch�rkamp enlightened us with:

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> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:18:37 -0600, Plowboy wrote: > >> So in short form, I need to get Vista before everyone else does, >> because even at work I need to order about 4 PC's and it is hard to >> get XP on anything nowdays. so I call it a career investment. >> > > I can follow your reasoning there if your career path is in Windows > administration. I hope you'll be able to get your hands on a separate > gaming machine then which won't be pestered by Vista compat issues ;-) > > All the best, uwe > > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61