Should the Schumachers have raced after their mother died?
An anonymous poster said Michael and Ralf Schumacher were wrong to race at the 2003 San Marino Grand Prix hours after their mother's death. Most replied that it was a personal choice, that racing could be their way of coping, and that Michael's win was a fitting tribute.
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"Glass Bowl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Fair comment, and in their position i'd find it difficult to perform any
type of rudimentary task, let alone my job. But no-one forced them to race,
they chose to. And no-one, be it the FIA or their own team management,
subjected them to the usual administrative rigmarole that goes with race
presentation. My deepest sympathies go to Michael, Ralf and all of their
families at this difficult time.
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Si.
You might think it is - but it is VERY much a matter of opinion.
Some people would agree - and wouldnt even think about racing.
Some people would disagree and consider the very best tribute to carry on
and deal with it.
Either way - their efforts were superb and Michael's result - especially in
his middle stint - quite stunning
Doug
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> You might think it is - but it is VERY much a matter of opinion. > > Some people would agree - and wouldnt even think about racing. > > Some people would disagree and consider the very best tribute to carry on > and deal with it. > > Either way - their efforts were superb and Michael's result - especially
"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > You might think it is - but it is VERY much a matter of opinion.
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> > Some people would agree - and wouldnt even think about racing.
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> > Some people would disagree and consider the very best tribute to carryon
Somehow - I think they were hoping for a result their mum would be proud
of - and they certainly got that.
Good sign off for the F12002 as well.
Doug
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> > and deal with it. > > > > Either way - their efforts were superb and Michael's result - especially > in > > his middle stint - quite stunning > > > Agreed. > Personally, I think it's harder to do nothing at a time like that.I pull my hat to Michael and Ralf for their dedication to their job, their
team, and their fans.
Good job, well done.
Achim
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...and if you feel obliged and dedicated to your team, your fans and your
job, then you'll do what the Schumachers did today.
Achim
"W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It depends where your priorities are. Family or money? If you value your
> family more than your money, then yes it would be wrong. But if thatmoney
> is more important, go for it!
Would it have been so wrong if he didn't run away with it...
Give the guys a break... Its called professionalism... everyone deals with
these things in their own way... who the hell are you to judge?
Or if the opposite were true they wouldn't race.
"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > family more than your money, then yes it would be wrong. But if that
> money
> > is more important, go for it!
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> ...and if you feel obliged and dedicated to your team, your fans and your > job, then you'll do what the Schumachers did today. > > Achim > > > "W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b7uvk5$fvs$[email hidden]... > > It depends where your priorities are. Family or money? If you value>"Glass Bowl" <[email hidden]> wrote
You wrote after. After what? You mean what, a minute, a day, a week, a
month? Where do you draw the line. _YOUR_ line is different then what
other people draw their own line.
Thus, is life.
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That's what I meant, Kevin.
Achim
Kevin King wrote:
> Or if the opposite were true they wouldn't race.
That's what I meant, Kevin.
Achim
> Or if the opposite were true they wouldn't race.
That's what's wrong with this world everyone wants to tell everyone else
what they should be doing and what's right and wrong. People should mind
their own fucking business and the world would be a better place.
Joe
"Glass Bowl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 04:27:11 -0400, "W"
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>It depends where your priorities are. Family or money? If you value your
>family more than your money, then yes it would be wrong. But if that money
>is more important, go for it!
I would imagine both Schumi's have guaranteed salaries, so it's not
like they'd be losing a huge chunk of change for not racing.
I also assume the starting money and the prize money goes to the teams
rather than the drivers, just based on stuff I've read about the old
financial wars in F1.
Jason
[email hidden] (Jason Moyer) wrote in
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I would also imagine that individual members of the teams have
performance clauses in their contracts. Engine builders get XX ammount
more Lira if the team score XX ammount of points...same for designers,
enineers, even team managers. Alot of a squad's payroll might be
determined by the performance of the drivers..
Also you have to ask how much exposure Marlboro and Vodafone and Shell
are expecting for their sponsorship. How many advertising managers in
those companies have their very careers tied to how often the Red Cars get
TV exposure? The scope of a modern F1 racing team is vast.
dave henrie
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> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 04:27:11 -0400, "W" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>It depends where your priorities are. Family or money? If you value >>your family more than your money, then yes it would be wrong. But if >>that money is more important, go for it! > > I would imagine both Schumi's have guaranteed salaries, so it's not > like they'd be losing a huge chunk of change for not racing. > > I also assume the starting money and the prize money goes to the teams > rather than the drivers, just based on stuff I've read about the old > financial wars in F1. > > Jason > am sure that she would have wanted me to race on Sunday," Schumacher said
in a statement. "She liked to see us in karting and she came to all the
races. My parents always encouraged us and everything was done to make sure
we could race. Everyone in the Ferrari team - the president, engineers, my
teammate (Rubens Barrichello), mechanics - wished me the best."
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"hours after"
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> > > You wrote after. After what? You mean what, a minute, a day, a week, a > month? Where do you draw the line. _YOUR_ line is different then what > other people draw their own line. > > > Thus, is life. > > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >It depends where your priorities are. Family or money? If you value your
family more than your money, then yes it would be wrong. But if that money
is more important, go for it!
W
Most racing drivers feel more comfortable and at home in the cockpit of their
car than anywhere else. I can't blame Michael and Ralf for racing--that's
probably the *only* time they have felt at all happy since their mother died.
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It is equally wrong to make a public statement/opinion about someone else's
personal life, personal choice in a personal family matter. What the "f"
business is this of yours?
Tom Pabst
"Glass Bowl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Tom Pabst" wrote:
> It is equally wrong to make a public statement/opinion about someoneelse's
> personal life, personal choice in a personal family matter. What the "f"
> business is this of yours?
Yep. Remarkably succint Tom :)
Tony Rickard wrote:
Uh huh, surely not the same Tom Pabst....:-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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> > "Tom Pabst" wrote: > > It is equally wrong to make a public statement/opinion about someone > else's > > personal life, personal choice in a personal family matter. What the "f" > > business is this of yours? > > Yep. Remarkably succint Tom :)AMEN !!!
Mikkel
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> It is equally wrong to make a public statement/opinion about someoneelse's
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> personal life, personal choice in a personal family matter. What the "f" > business is this of yours? > > Tom Pabst > > > "Glass Bowl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > >"Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message
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<applause>
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Joe M.
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> That's what's wrong with this world everyone wants to tell everyone else > what they should be doing and what's right and wrong. People should mind > their own fucking business and the world would be a better place. > > Joe > >I can only imagine that according to you anything less than public wailing
is "wrong". How do you manage to judge the love, commitment, and deeply
private thoughts of people you don't even know?
Do you simply draw conclusions from appearances and slap your values on
them? These are the big clown shoes that folks like you trip over all of
the time. You are more concerned with how things "look" versus how things
really ARE!!! Stop wearing blinders and walking with you nose so high in
the air and you won't stumble over those clown shoes.
Here's a random thought: What if they are truly loving children who know
their mom would have wanted them to race? Or perhaps they simply found
peace and consolation behind the wheel knowing they were racing for her?
Should they substitute HER wishes or THEIR beliefs for your narrow concept
of how grieving sons MUST behave to be viewed as "right"?
PS-Imagine yourself for a moment if you had the benefit of a broad
perspective on life by simply removing the blinders and scanning the
horizon. You just might find more depth as a result of adding some breadth.
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Joe M.
errrrr.... huh??
Cool Hand Luke
"Dan Belcher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Most racing drivers feel more comfortable and at home in the cockpit oftheir
> car than anywhere else. I can't blame Michael and Ralf for racing--that's
> probably the *only* time they have felt at all happy since their motherdied.
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> Dan Belcher
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Funny post. You were being funny, right?
"Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message
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