RASCAR - Talladega

Today - Noon eastern. Server: RASCAR2003 100 laps(50% today) pace speed: 70mph pit speed: 55mph Let's be safe, and have fun! Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of time. Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at the SS races over these two seasons? I have better SS races in pickup races at Sierra. We should re-run that Talladega race until we get it right. F**king waste of a Saturday. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Today - Noon eastern. > Server: RASCAR2003 > 100 laps(50% today) > pace speed: 70mph > pit speed: 55mph > > Let's be safe, and have fun! > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Either that or run it with moderate damage :) I asked 3 times if we were running with bump drafting and got no answer, cept for Larry I think. You have to give so much room (unlike me :) when your on the outside to avoid the inside warps you simply cannot compete on the outside without bump drafting. It's boring enough to run restrictor plate tracks without having to protect the inside so much. btw, anyone else think 2nd gear was a bit much? -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of time. > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at the SS races over > these two seasons? I have better SS races in pickup races at Sierra. > > We should re-run that Talladega race until we get it right. > > F**king waste of a Saturday. > > David G Fisher > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Today - Noon eastern. > > Server: RASCAR2003 > > 100 laps(50% today) > > pace speed: 70mph > > pit speed: 55mph > > > > Let's be safe, and have fun! > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank:-1.680 > > MonsterRank: +334.169 > > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

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> Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of time. > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at the SS races over > these two seasons? I have better SS races in pickup races at Sierra. > > We should re-run that Talladega race until we get it right. > > F**king waste of a Saturday. >

Well, the wreck on lap 31 was my fault. My hands were a little sweaty, and the steering wheel just slipped, and I ended up wall glued, and when the wall let go, I had no control. Sorry to everyone behind me... :(

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> Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of > time. > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at > the SS races over these two seasons? I have better SS > races in pickup races at Sierra. > > We should re-run that Talladega race until we get it > right.

I'd like to get better at Superspeedway races, but I also like variety. I did make an important realisation earlier today, which I will post about once I've thought it through and tested some more. > F**king waste of a Saturday. Oh well, that's how it goes sometimes. I got caught up in "the big one" too. Dodged the wreck in the outside line, then dodged the wreck in the inside line. Finally, when dodging a car coming down off T2 I lost it and spun down towards the inside wall. Managed to stay out of it, but was collected by Richard Busch in the infield. Engine damage. Saw Richard's apology, but was too slow to respond. No problem, just one of those things Richard, don't worry about it. Jan. =---

Fist off...congratulations to Larry ! Great win and to Kyle for 2nd. Larry stayed on my butt, and Kyle on his for the last 35 laps or more. Larry never touched me once and he had many opportunities to. I feakin blew it going into turn 3 on the last lap giving Larry and Kyle the opening they were lookin for. Hell I crowded Larry so much anyway that I crashed but thankfully didn't take both of em out. Coulda, shoulda woulda dammit Dan

uhhhh....make that first off. fist off could be misconstrued

uhhhh....make that first off.***off could be misconstrued

Bamadano wrote: > > Larry stayed on my butt and never touched me once and he had many opportunities to. Are you complaining or appreciating ? :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

>Well, the wreck on lap 31 was my fault. My hands were a little >sweaty, and the steering wheel just slipped, and I ended up wall >glued, and when the wall let go, I had no control. > I hate that wall glue. It bit me on the second caution. I went high to let someone by and just touched it. I knew I was stuck and rode it until it let go. I hates it when it lets go sudden like and you have no control for about a second, and dart to the left. Sorry about that one. I think I nicked number 15 when I came off the wall. And a sorry to Jan. I went low to avoid the "big one" (I think it was JS stuck to the wall), I spun into the inside wall and slid into you. I didn't mean it buddy. ZZ Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

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> "David G Fisher" wrote... > > Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of > > time. > > > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at > > the SS races over these two seasons? I have better SS > > races in pickup races at Sierra.

It is "OK" to lift when you see trouble up ahead, but I don't think that many people do it. I got taken out from behind, while I had backed off because of trouble up ahead. After reviewing the replay from everyone's car (hindsight is 20-20), Kyle Roberts should have slowed instead of swerving to avoid John Simmons and the whole incident would have been avoided. Instead, Ian and I got put into the wall. It was just a "racing deal", but it sucks to be taken out after just a few laps because someone wants to try to win the race with 75 laps to go. Oh, and Larry, how the hell did you not have damage. I rode the replay in your car, and I swear you made contact with someone....I mean real hard contact. Oh well. I'm sure Martinsville will be real pleasant.

> Larry stayed on my butt and never touched me once and he had many >opportunities to. > >Are you complaining or appreciating ? :-) > OK Goy get yer mind outta the gutter. Or maybe just jealousy :)

I got caught up in both the big one's. Went round and round many times, blew tires, and came awfully close to hitting about 100 different things but it was just my lucky day. I escaped both without damage. Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SeGja.32264$[email hidden]...

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> "David G Fisher" wrote... > > Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of > > time. > > > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at > > the SS races over these two seasons? I have better SS > > races in pickup races at Sierra. > > > > We should re-run that Talladega race until we get it > > right. > > I'd like to get better at Superspeedway races, but I also like variety. I > did make an important realisation earlier today, which I will post about > once I've thought it through and tested some more. > > > F**king waste of a Saturday. > > Oh well, that's how it goes sometimes. > > I got caught up in "the big one" too. Dodged the wreck in the outside

line, > then dodged the wreck in the inside line. Finally, when dodging a carcoming > down off T2 I lost it and spun down towards the inside wall. Managed tostay > out of it, but was collected by Richard Busch in the infield. Enginedamage. > > Saw Richard's apology, but was too slow to respond. No problem, just oneof

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> those things Richard, don't worry about it. > > Jan. > =--- > > > >

Thanks :) That was quite a run we had there :) Larry "Bamadano" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fist off...congratulations to Larry ! Great win and to Kyle for 2nd. Larry > stayed on my butt, and Kyle on his for the last 35 laps or more. Larrynever > touched me once and he had many opportunities to. I feakin blew it goinginto > turn 3 on the last lap giving Larry and Kyle the opening they were lookinfor. > Hell I crowded Larry so much anyway that I crashed but thankfully didn'ttake > both of em out. Coulda, shoulda woulda dammit > Dan

It was one of those "Days of Thunder" experiences in both of the big one's :) I came so close to hitting so many things, spinning round and round, but somehow just managed to get by! Larry "Boyk7808" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "David G Fisher" wrote... > > > Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of > > > time. > > > > > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at > > > the SS races over these two seasons? I have better SS > > > races in pickup races at Sierra. > > > It is "OK" to lift when you see trouble up ahead, but I don't think > that many people do it. I got taken out from behind, while I had > backed off because of trouble up ahead. After reviewing the replay > from everyone's car (hindsight is 20-20), Kyle Roberts should have > slowed instead of swerving to avoid John Simmons and the whole > incident would have been avoided. Instead, Ian and I got put into the > wall. It was just a "racing deal", but it sucks to be taken out after > just a few laps because someone wants to try to win the race with 75 > laps to go. Oh, and Larry, how the hell did you not have damage. I > rode the replay in your car, and I swear you made contact with > someone....I mean real hard contact. Oh well. I'm sure Martinsville > will be real pleasant.

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> > It is "OK" to lift when you see trouble up ahead, but I don't think > that many people do it. I got taken out from behind, while I had > backed off because of trouble up ahead. After reviewing the replay > from everyone's car (hindsight is 20-20), Kyle Roberts should have > slowed instead of swerving to avoid John Simmons and the whole > incident would have been avoided. Instead, Ian and I got put into the > wall. It was just a "racing deal", but it sucks to be taken out after > just a few laps because someone wants to try to win the race with 75 > laps to go. Oh, and Larry, how the hell did you not have damage. I > rode the replay in your car, and I swear you made contact with > someone....I mean real hard contact. Oh well. I'm sure Martinsville > will be real pleasant.

I wasn't sure exactly why he dropped down the track, I thought he was going for a new "alternative" racing line ;) so I kept my foot planted. Imagine my shock when he came back up the track and *I* was already there ! Never mind, OOTRDs :) Anyway in that incident I made what I'd class as light contact with the wall, didn't seem to take long to fix in the pits anyway. So why the hell am I 10MPH slower ? I just couldn't keep up with the rest of the field on the restart, so I decided to just park it up and go do some GPL ;) Papy really needs to sort out the damage in this one. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

In article <SeGja.32264$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >I got caught up in "the big one" too. Dodged the wreck in the outside line, >then dodged the wreck in the inside line. Finally, when dodging a car coming >down off T2 I lost it and spun down towards the inside wall. Managed to stay >out of it, but was collected by Richard Busch in the infield. Engine damage. I almost had it missed - got through a bunch of cars. Ended up having Mitch spin down in front of me. It might have only been slight contact, but Joon plowed into both of us, sending me into Mitch, and Mitch barrel-rolling down the track. Joon, why did you feel the need to drive through the wreck at almost full speed?!? >:-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I was fortunate enought to get through that by lifting and dropping down onto the apron. Lifting doesn't really do alot to slow you down but it does give you better control. I would say that if you hit the brakes and were anywhere close to the action it would probably be harder to control. As always, I would suggest driving towards the spinning car, chances are it won't be there when you get there. If you try to avoid it without contol of the car you will most likely be involved. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <SeGja.32264$[email hidden]>, "JanVerschueren" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I got caught up in "the big one" too. Dodged the wreck in the outsideline, > >then dodged the wreck in the inside line. Finally, when dodging a carcoming > >down off T2 I lost it and spun down towards the inside wall. Managed tostay > >out of it, but was collected by Richard Busch in the infield. Enginedamage. > > I almost had it missed - got through a bunch of cars. Ended up havingMitch > spin down in front of me. It might have only been slight contact, butJoon > plowed into both of us, sending me into Mitch, and Mitch barrel-rollingdown

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> the track. Joon, why did you feel the need to drive through the wreck at > almost full speed?!? > >:-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I was completely off the throttle, and trying to avoid everyone. Didn't work out that way. Terribly sorry. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <SeGja.32264$[email hidden]>, "JanVerschueren" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I got caught up in "the big one" too. Dodged the wreck in the outsideline, > >then dodged the wreck in the inside line. Finally, when dodging a carcoming > >down off T2 I lost it and spun down towards the inside wall. Managed tostay > >out of it, but was collected by Richard Busch in the infield. Enginedamage. > > I almost had it missed - got through a bunch of cars. Ended up havingMitch > spin down in front of me. It might have only been slight contact, butJoon > plowed into both of us, sending me into Mitch, and Mitch barrel-rollingdown

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> the track. Joon, why did you feel the need to drive through the wreck at > almost full speed?!? > >:-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I'm still spinnin :) One thing I'd like to mention about the wall glue. If you get caught up in it then you need to let your speed bleed a lot before you start crankin the wheel to the left. If you dont you WILL take out a big part of the feild. Case in point :)) How the heck did you even get up into the glu at dega John?? "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > I almost had it missed - got through a bunch of cars. Ended up having Mitch > spin down in front of me. It might have only been slight contact, butJoon > plowed into both of us, sending me into Mitch, and Mitch barrel-rollingdown

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> the track. Joon, why did you feel the need to drive through the wreck at > almost full speed?!? > >:-( > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> I'm still spinnin :) > > One thing I'd like to mention about the wall glue. If you get caught up in > it then you need to let your speed bleed a lot before you start crankin the > wheel to the left. If you dont you WILL take out a big part of the feild. > Case in point :)) > > How the heck did you even get up into the glu at dega John?? >

Sweaty hands. The wheel just slipped out of my hands and i slowed to try to avoid the wall, but it reached out and snagged me. When it let go, I guess I was turning left trying to get off, and I got shot down to the inside. I think you were the first car I hit. :(

sweaty hands will do it alright :)) "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

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> Sweaty hands. The wheel just slipped out of my hands and i slowed to > try to avoid the wall, but it reached out and snagged me. When it > let go, I guess I was turning left trying to get off, and I got shot > down to the inside. I think you were the first car I hit. > > :( >

In article <ihWja.33000$[email hidden]>, "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I was fortunate enought to get through that by lifting and dropping down >onto the apron. Lifting doesn't really do alot to slow you down but it does >give you better control. I would say that if you hit the brakes and were >anywhere close to the action it would probably be harder to control. As >always, I would suggest driving towards the spinning car, chances are it >won't be there when you get there. If you try to avoid it without contol of >the car you will most likely be involved.

I had lifted, braked, and was in control. I just dodged into the same direction that Mitch spun... Like I said, I think we both would have been fine except for the fact that someone elso PLOWED into us. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Sweaty hands. The wheel just slipped out of my hands > and i slowed to try to avoid the wall, but it reached > out and snagged me. When it let go, I guess I was > turning left trying to get off, and I got shot down > to the inside. I think you were the first car I hit. > > :(

I wear stringback gloves to combat that situation. If you get the good stuff ($150 / pair) the more you sweat the better they grip. Looks a bit silly to someone watching you and does nothing for your keyboarding skills, but it works a treat. Jan. =---

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>> Larry stayed on my butt and never touched me once and he had many >>opportunities to. >> >>Are you complaining or appreciating ? :-) >> > > OK Goy get yer mind outta the gutter. Or maybe just jealousy :) >

You DID say something about a fist did you not? Rascar in the gutter? nawwwwww. dave henrie

You DID say something about a***did you not? Rascar in the gutter? nawwwwww. dave henrie

Jan, I'm glad you came of the closet. I must admit that I didn't quite pay $150.00 for my pair, but it wasn't exactly the cheap stuff either. Me an you got a lot in common heh. Hey, do you wear a two piece driving suit or just a one piece? I used to wear the cheap two piece stuff but switched to the one-piece. It was more comfortable and has a cute little zipper in the front. With the nomex / kevlar liner, there will be little chance that I will get burned in our races. Plus, its breathes so well, it keeps the sweat from accumulating in and around embarrasing areas. Also, what kind of helmet do you wear? After Dale died, i switched to a full face helment but have since gone back to the open face. My face shield was fogging up and I couldnt see the computer screen. I bought those tear-offs for my face shield, but I couldn't keep my pit crew around long enough to tear one off when I went in to pit. So far, the open face is the ticket. Its good that we have so much in common even though we be on either sides of the pond. Lets keep this to ourselves. "They" would never admit the stuff that we have. grubbat dodge p.s. ;) "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ir2ka.33996$[email hidden]...

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> "John Simmons" wrote... > > Sweaty hands. The wheel just slipped out of my hands > > and i slowed to try to avoid the wall, but it reached > > out and snagged me. When it let go, I guess I was > > turning left trying to get off, and I got shot down > > to the inside. I think you were the first car I hit. > > > > :( > > I wear stringback gloves to combat that situation. If you get the good

stuff > ($150 / pair) the more you sweat the better they grip. Looks a bit sillyto

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> someone watching you and does nothing for your keyboarding skills, but it > works a treat. > > Jan. > =--- > >

"Boyk7808" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "David G Fisher" wrote... > > > Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of > > > time. > > > > > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at > > > the SS races over these two seasons? I have better SS > > > races in pickup races at Sierra. > > > It is "OK" to lift when you see trouble up ahead, but I don't think > that many people do it. I got taken out from behind, while I had > backed off because of trouble up ahead. After reviewing the replay > from everyone's car (hindsight is 20-20), Kyle Roberts should have > slowed instead of swerving to avoid John Simmons and the whole > incident would have been avoided. Instead, Ian and I got put into the > wall. It was just a "racing deal", but it sucks to be taken out after > just a few laps because someone wants to try to win the race with 75 > laps to go. Oh, and Larry, how the hell did you not have damage. I > rode the replay in your car, and I swear you made contact with > someone....I mean real hard contact. Oh well. I'm sure Martinsville > will be real pleasant.

I was trying to win the race in sixth or seventh place? I did lift, but thought that wasn't enough and swerved to the left. Unfortunately, we don't have brake lights and turn signals. I was trying to avoid causing a wreck, far from trying to be a cowboy and win it on lap 20. Everything would have been fine, but I did over correct and just caught the front bumper of the car behind me. Watch the entire replay again from my POV and count how many times I lifted. You will get tired of counting. I will admit my portion of fault, but I won't be accused of trying to win the race with 75 laps to go. Kyle

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <fe_ja.1902$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I'm still spinnin :) > > > > One thing I'd like to mention about the wall glue. If you get caught upin > > it then you need to let your speed bleed a lot before you start crankinthe > > wheel to the left. If you dont you WILL take out a big part of thefeild.

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> > Case in point :)) > > > > How the heck did you even get up into the glu at dega John?? > > > > Sweaty hands. The wheel just slipped out of my hands and i slowed to > try to avoid the wall, but it reached out and snagged me. When it > let go, I guess I was turning left trying to get off, and I got shot > down to the inside. I think you were the first car I hit. > > :( >

I got really lucky on that one. I was right behind John and when you drifted high, I was mesemerized or something and followed you right to the wall, just brushing it. That saved me from getting hit when you came back off the wall. Kyle

People can say whatever that like - but bumpdrafting have no place in online-racing - it's simple too risky. Lan racing - maybe. Online racing - no way in hell.... Thats's just like asking for problems.. -- ed_ "Tim" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:DZFja.12934$[email hidden]... > Either that or run it with moderate damage :) > I asked 3 times if we were running with bump drafting and got no answer, cept for Larry I think. > You have to give so much room (unlike me :) when your on the outside to avoid the inside warps you simply cannot compete on the > outside without bump drafting. > It's boring enough to run restrictor plate tracks without having to protect the inside so much. > > btw, anyone else think 2nd gear was a bit much? > > -- > Tim White > www.intracmotorsports.com > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Well that was a thoroughly shitty race a total waste of time. > > > > Is there some reason why our group has been horrible at the SS races over > > these two seasons? I have better SS races in pickup races at Sierra. > > > > We should re-run that Talladega race until we get it right. > > > > F**king waste of a Saturday. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Today - Noon eastern. > > > Server: RASCAR2003 > > > 100 laps(50% today) > > > pace speed: 70mph > > > pit speed: 55mph > > > > > > Let's be safe, and have fun! > > > > > > Eldred > > > -- > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > GPLRank:-1.680 > > > MonsterRank: +334.169 > > > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > > you > > > with experience... > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > > > > >

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> Either that or run it with moderate damage :) > I asked 3 times if we were running with bump drafting and got no answer, cept for Larry I think. > You have to give so much room (unlike me :) when your on the outside to avoid the inside warps you simply cannot compete on the > outside without bump drafting. > It's boring enough to run restrictor plate tracks without having to protect the inside so much. > > btw, anyone else think 2nd gear was a bit much?

Bump drafting is fine as long as both you and the person you're bumping (or that's bumping you) have an absolutely solid connection. However, since you never know when the evil Mr. Latency is gonna reach out and grab someone, bump-drafting online is risky at best. If you do it, and it wrecks someone out, they have every right to flame you for doing it. :) That being said, I wasn't fast enough to catch you in order to bump you Tim, and my car lost a little more power each lap (I honestly thought I was gonna lose another motor). Eventually everyone walked away from after I did the wall-glue boogy.

I have never really seen bump drafting work on-line. Even if both people involved have a good connection it seems like the collision detection allways causes one of the cars to "dip" down into the track and gives a scraping sound. Which can slow the cars. I even had one case where I was trying to bump draft in a pickup game (the guy kept screaming for me to do it) and I swear it caused my front tires to wear out prematurly. More often than not, bump drafting ends in a yellow. Brian Oster On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 22:54:16 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <DZFja.12934$[email hidden]>, jwhite15 >@carolina.rr.com says... >> Either that or run it with moderate damage :) >> I asked 3 times if we were running with bump drafting and got no answer, cept for Larry I think. >> You have to give so much room (unlike me :) when your on the outside to avoid the inside warps you simply cannot compete on the >> outside without bump drafting. >> It's boring enough to run restrictor plate tracks without having to protect the inside so much. >> >> btw, anyone else think 2nd gear was a bit much? > > >Bump drafting is fine as long as both you and the person you're >bumping (or that's bumping you) have an absolutely solid connection. >However, since you never know when the evil Mr. Latency is gonna >reach out and grab someone, bump-drafting online is risky at best. > >If you do it, and it wrecks someone out, they have every right to >flame you for doing it. :) > >That being said, I wasn't fast enough to catch you in order to bump >you Tim, and my car lost a little more power each lap (I honestly >thought I was gonna lose another motor). Eventually everyone walked >away from after I did the wall-glue boogy. > >

Yeah I saw that John, when we traded positions. No biggie/. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com

It works Brian. It definitely works. The car dipping down like that is a result of minor warps. It doesn't always do that. But your right, you need stable connections. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have never really seen bump drafting work on-line. Even if both > people involved have a good connection it seems like the collision > detection allways causes one of the cars to "dip" down into the track > and gives a scraping sound. Which can slow the cars. I even had one > case where I was trying to bump draft in a pickup game (the guy kept > screaming for me to do it) and I swear it caused my front tires to > wear out prematurly. More often than not, bump drafting ends in a > yellow. > > Brian Oster > > On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 22:54:16 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In article <DZFja.12934$[email hidden]>, jwhite15 > >@carolina.rr.com says... > >> Either that or run it with moderate damage :) > >> I asked 3 times if we were running with bump drafting and got no answer, cept for Larry I think. > >> You have to give so much room (unlike me :) when your on the outside to avoid the inside warps you simply cannot compete on the > >> outside without bump drafting. > >> It's boring enough to run restrictor plate tracks without having to protect the inside so much. > >> > >> btw, anyone else think 2nd gear was a bit much? > > > > > >Bump drafting is fine as long as both you and the person you're > >bumping (or that's bumping you) have an absolutely solid connection. > >However, since you never know when the evil Mr. Latency is gonna > >reach out and grab someone, bump-drafting online is risky at best. > > > >If you do it, and it wrecks someone out, they have every right to > >flame you for doing it. :) > > > >That being said, I wasn't fast enough to catch you in order to bump > >you Tim, and my car lost a little more power each lap (I honestly > >thought I was gonna lose another motor). Eventually everyone walked > >away from after I did the wall-glue boogy. > > > > >

Works fine for me. You need to be perfectly square on the bumper of the car you are bumping and 99% of the time you will be ok. You don't need to get a run and bump, just ease up off the corner and tap the car. Do not bump in the corner or entering a corner.

Well, I guess I'll have to take your word for then. Too be fair I haven't done it in N2003, only N2002 so maybe they have improved it over N2002. I've just never really seen any great benefit to it in the game. 99% of any restrictor plate race is just making it to the end. Brian Oster On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:41:05 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It works Brian. It definitely works. The car dipping down like that is a result of minor warps. It doesn't always do that. But >your right, you need stable connections.