NR2003 Server requirements

Will this PC be fast enough to run as a dedicated server with 20->25 racers on a solid cable connection with the following specs: Celeron 1.4 GHz 256K cache (BX chipset) 512 MB SDRAM CL2 Geforce 2 GTS 32MB 30 GB 7200 RPM 2MB cache Promise Ultra ATA 100 Controller SBLive 5.1 Thanks in advance

The PC will make a super server the problem may be your cable connection. Each person connected to your server will use 21k of bandwidth, so to host 10 racers would require 210k of upload bandwidth or 420k of upload for 20 racers. If your cable connection is capped at 256k upstream you would be limited to about 12 solid racers. GL, Dave "extractor @lycos.com" <=removespam=> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Will this PC be fast enough to run as a dedicated server with 20->25 > racers on a solid cable connection with the following specs: > > Celeron 1.4 GHz 256K cache (BX chipset) > 512 MB SDRAM CL2 > Geforce 2 GTS 32MB > 30 GB 7200 RPM 2MB cache > Promise Ultra ATA 100 Controller > SBLive 5.1 > > Thanks in advance

I have a cable connection that gets over 600-700k and it still gags at over 5-6 connections for some reason. Only way to know for sure is to test it and see what it can handle. You will start getting high pings and packet loss when you hit the limit. "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The PC will make a super server the problem may be your cable connection. > > Each person connected to your server will use 21k of bandwidth, so to host > 10 racers would > require 210k of upload bandwidth or 420k of upload for 20 racers. If your > cable connection is > capped at 256k upstream you would be limited to about 12 solid racers. > > GL, Dave > > > "extractor @lycos.com" <=removespam=> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Will this PC be fast enough to run as a dedicated server with 20->25 > > racers on a solid cable connection with the following specs: > > > > Celeron 1.4 GHz 256K cache (BX chipset) > > 512 MB SDRAM CL2 > > Geforce 2 GTS 32MB > > 30 GB 7200 RPM 2MB cache > > Promise Ultra ATA 100 Controller > > SBLive 5.1 > > > > Thanks in advance > >

In article <l2hga.35333$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I have a cable connection that gets over 600-700k and it still gags at over > 5-6 connections for some reason. Only way to know for sure is to test it > and see what it can handle. You will start getting high pings and packet > loss when you hit the limit. > Check your upstream speed. I'm willing to bet that you're capped at 128k. That will allow only about 5 or 6 cars.

I'm willing to bet I'm not. Checked it. Not sure what the issue is unless it's an issue with my router perhaps but my upstream is actually capped at 1MB but I normally get slightly less in real world use. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <l2hga.35333$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I have a cable connection that gets over 600-700k and it still gags atover > > 5-6 connections for some reason. Only way to know for sure is to testit > > and see what it can handle. You will start getting high pings andpacket > > loss when you hit the limit. > > > > Check your upstream speed. I'm willing to bet that you're capped at > 128k. That will allow only about 5 or 6 cars.

The computer isn't a problem. Your cable connection probably is. I believe the rule-of-thumb is 22K per car. I doubt your cable system is symetrical, and that the uplink speed is limited to something like 192k or 256k. THERE is your issue. Larry "extractor @lycos.com" <=removespam=> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Will this PC be fast enough to run as a dedicated server with 20->25 > racers on a solid cable connection with the following specs: > > Celeron 1.4 GHz 256K cache (BX chipset) > 512 MB SDRAM CL2 > Geforce 2 GTS 32MB > 30 GB 7200 RPM 2MB cache > Promise Ultra ATA 100 Controller > SBLive 5.1 > > Thanks in advance

If you have 1mbit UPLINK on your cable you are incredibly lucky. I have a friend in a sleeply little town that just got wireless broadband. The first of any sort of broadband in the whole town. Get this, his connection speeds are in excess of 4mbit/sec download and 2mbit/sec upload. All for $50 a month. Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rfhga.35346$[email hidden]... > I'm willing to bet I'm not. Checked it. Not sure what the issue isunless

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> it's an issue with my router perhaps but my upstream is actually capped at > 1MB but I normally get slightly less in real world use. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <l2hga.35333$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > I have a cable connection that gets over 600-700k and it still gags at > over > > > 5-6 connections for some reason. Only way to know for sure is to test > it > > > and see what it can handle. You will start getting high pings and > packet > > > loss when you hit the limit. > > > > > > > Check your upstream speed. I'm willing to bet that you're capped at > > 128k. That will allow only about 5 or 6 cars. > >

Mine are 5 down/1 up but the issue usually on cable is consistency. If you cannot maintain a constant upload speed then it will be an issue for hosting. Cable can be very "bursty". "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rSjga.16042$[email hidden]... > If you have 1mbit UPLINK on your cable you are incredibly lucky. > > I have a friend in a sleeply little town that just got wireless broadband. > The first of any sort of broadband in the whole town. Get this, his > connection speeds are in excess of 4mbit/sec download and 2mbit/secupload.

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> All for $50 a month. > > Larry > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Rfhga.35346$[email hidden]... > > I'm willing to bet I'm not. Checked it. Not sure what the issue is > unless > > it's an issue with my router perhaps but my upstream is actually capped

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> > 1MB but I normally get slightly less in real world use. > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <l2hga.35333$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > I have a cable connection that gets over 600-700k and it still gags

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> > it > > > > and see what it can handle. You will start getting high pings and > > packet > > > > loss when you hit the limit. > > > > > > > > > > Check your upstream speed. I'm willing to bet that you're capped at > > > 128k. That will allow only about 5 or 6 cars. > > > > > >

I guess I'll just do some tests and see where it goes. Thanks On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:25:26 -0800, "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>The PC will make a super server the problem may be your cable connection. > >Each person connected to your server will use 21k of bandwidth, so to host >10 racers would >require 210k of upload bandwidth or 420k of upload for 20 racers. If your >cable connection is >capped at 256k upstream you would be limited to about 12 solid racers. > >GL, Dave

Did some speed tests linked from dslreports Download not an issue getting nearly 2MB Upload looks like its capped at 475K (maxed at 472K on 5 out of 8 test). With an average of 22K per car, barely skimp buy hosting 20 cars. Realistically I think its about 15. Oh well, there is a local ADSL offering 2.5 GB down and 640K up but they have a cap on download/upload per month. Hopefully my cable company will offer a "enhanced" cable connection soon.

The problem with cable is your impacted more by local users on your node. If a few people start some big downloads you will see a performance/bandwidth hit. This is less likely with DSL but it seems most DSL caps the upload levels lower than cable typically. You may want to look at renting a server if your trying to get some regular racing events going, much more consistent and stable way to go IMHO. "extractor @lycos.com" <=removespam=> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Did some speed tests linked from dslreports > > Download not an issue getting nearly 2MB > Upload looks like its capped at 475K (maxed at 472K on 5 out of 8 > test). > > With an average of 22K per car, barely skimp buy hosting 20 cars. > Realistically I think its about 15. Oh well, there is a local ADSL > offering 2.5 GB down and 640K up but they have a cap on > download/upload per month. Hopefully my cable company will offer a > "enhanced" cable connection soon.

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>Will this PC be fast enough to run as a dedicated server with 20->25 >racers on a solid cable connection with the following specs: > >Celeron 1.4 GHz 256K cache (BX chipset) >512 MB SDRAM CL2 >Geforce 2 GTS 32MB >30 GB 7200 RPM 2MB cache >Promise Ultra ATA 100 Controller >SBLive 5.1 > >Thanks in advance

My RASCAR server is a Dell Optiplex GX150 w/ 256MB ram, 10GB drive, and TNT2 card. I *think* it's a 900mhz system, but it might not even be THAT fast. Your PC is plenty fast. Your drawback will be the cable connection. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:MUjga.35407$[email hidden]: > Mine are 5 down/1 up but the issue usually on cable is consistency. > If you cannot maintain a constant upload speed then it will be an > issue for hosting. Cable can be very "bursty". > KeeeRAP! my fast cable is 1.5Kbs down..and capped on upload. It was 128kbs but I think they relaxed that some to about 225ish. dave henrie

That's one hell of a Cable connection there :) Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MUjga.35407$[email hidden]... > Mine are 5 down/1 up but the issue usually on cable is consistency. > If you cannot maintain a constant upload speed then it will be an issuefor

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> hosting. Cable can be very "bursty". > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rSjga.16042$[email hidden]... > > If you have 1mbit UPLINK on your cable you are incredibly lucky. > > > > I have a friend in a sleeply little town that just got wireless

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> > The first of any sort of broadband in the whole town. Get this, his > > connection speeds are in excess of 4mbit/sec download and 2mbit/sec > upload. > > All for $50 a month. > > > > Larry > > > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Rfhga.35346$[email hidden]... > > > I'm willing to bet I'm not. Checked it. Not sure what the issue is > > unless > > > it's an issue with my router perhaps but my upstream is actually

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> at > > > 1MB but I normally get slightly less in real world use. > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > In article <l2hga.35333$[email hidden]>, > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > I have a cable connection that gets over 600-700k and it still

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> at > > > over > > > > > 5-6 connections for some reason. Only way to know for sure is to > test > > > it > > > > > and see what it can handle. You will start getting high pings and > > > packet > > > > > loss when you hit the limit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check your upstream speed. I'm willing to bet that you're capped at > > > > 128k. That will allow only about 5 or 6 cars. > > > > > > > > > > > >

This widely advertised 'failing' of Cable has never been an issue on our system. The DSL companies used to use this 'shared bandwidth of cable' as a selling point of DSL, but it faded out after a while when it was determined that it wasn't that big of a deal. EVERYONE shares somewhere. Whether it's at the Gateway, backbone, segment, etc... There's no escaping it, no matter what kind of connection you have. Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rLkga.35434$[email hidden]... > The problem with cable is your impacted more by local users on your node. > If a few people start some big downloads you will see a > performance/bandwidth hit. This is less likely with DSL but it seems most > DSL caps the upload levels lower than cable typically. > You may want to look at renting a server if your trying to get someregular

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> racing events going, much more consistent and stable way to go IMHO. > > "extractor @lycos.com" <=removespam=> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Did some speed tests linked from dslreports > > > > Download not an issue getting nearly 2MB > > Upload looks like its capped at 475K (maxed at 472K on 5 out of 8 > > test). > > > > With an average of 22K per car, barely skimp buy hosting 20 cars. > > Realistically I think its about 15. Oh well, there is a local ADSL > > offering 2.5 GB down and 640K up but they have a cap on > > download/upload per month. Hopefully my cable company will offer a > > "enhanced" cable connection soon. > >

I agree but on a heavily loaded cable node you will feel the impact more than if it were on other areas. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:023ha.385$[email hidden]... > This widely advertised 'failing' of Cable has never been an issue on our > system. > > The DSL companies used to use this 'shared bandwidth of cable' as aselling > point of DSL, but it faded out after a while when it was determined thatit > wasn't that big of a deal. > > EVERYONE shares somewhere. Whether it's at the Gateway, backbone,segment, > etc... There's no escaping it, no matter what kind of connection youhave. > > Larry > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rLkga.35434$[email hidden]... > > The problem with cable is your impacted more by local users on yournode. > > If a few people start some big downloads you will see a > > performance/bandwidth hit. This is less likely with DSL but it seemsmost

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> > DSL caps the upload levels lower than cable typically. > > You may want to look at renting a server if your trying to get some > regular > > racing events going, much more consistent and stable way to go IMHO. > > > > "extractor @lycos.com" <=removespam=> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Did some speed tests linked from dslreports > > > > > > Download not an issue getting nearly 2MB > > > Upload looks like its capped at 475K (maxed at 472K on 5 out of 8 > > > test). > > > > > > With an average of 22K per car, barely skimp buy hosting 20 cars. > > > Realistically I think its about 15. Oh well, there is a local ADSL > > > offering 2.5 GB down and 640K up but they have a cap on > > > download/upload per month. Hopefully my cable company will offer a > > > "enhanced" cable connection soon. > > > > > >