well he's back at it...

I thought his posting was stopped, but confused is back at it...sending more alldata crap via the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup. I email some of the receipiants, asking them to request confused move on...a couple responded positively but others have just said tuff.. Any net detectives out there that can track this booger down? dave henrie

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> > I thought his posting was stopped, but confused is back at it...sending > more alldata crap via the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup. I email > some of the receipiants, asking them to request confused move on...a couple > responded positively but others have just said tuff.. > > Any net detectives out there that can track this booger down? > dave henrie

He's probably using a proxy server....... That's an inside joke for the people in here that also frequents the "other" NG :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Dave, you're a man on a mission. I've got to admire your persistence. I bet you've never lost a pen :-) -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I thought his posting was stopped, but confused is back at it...sending > more alldata crap via the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup. I email > some of the receipiants, asking them to request confused move on...a couple > responded positively but others have just said tuff.. > > Any net detectives out there that can track this booger down? > dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003

GTX_SlotCar wrote: > > Dave, you're a man on a mission. I've got to admire your persistence. I bet > you've never lost a pen :-) Dave's an instigator, a Catalyst :-) I'm having a hard time making my posts look exactly like that Confused guy, still working on it though, hopefully I'm close enough that someone spends a lot of time DL some weird old music videos I had on a mostly unused partition of an old HD on an old server....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

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> > > GTX_SlotCar wrote: >> >> Dave, you're a man on a mission. I've got to admire your persistence. >> I bet you've never lost a pen :-) > > Dave's an instigator, a Catalyst :-) > > I'm having a hard time making my posts look exactly like that Confused > guy, still working on it though, hopefully I'm close enough that > someone spends a lot of time DL some weird old music videos I had on a > mostly unused partition of an old HD on an old server....:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx-- >

Well Goy's method would be the only way that might work. If somebody sat down and figured out just how big the files are he's sending and how many chunks to cut them up with...we could duplicate his format. But... I know when somebody can take a punch and Confused ain't gonna budge. I don't know the procedure, but I propose a radical solution. (the old 'What Would Captain Kirk do? plan) I guess I'm not too thrilled having sim racing equated with software theft, so does anyone know who to contact to disolve the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup? We can always start some other ng later...but I'm thinking the only way to move these guys is to turn off the newsgroup. Any thoughts? dave henrie

He looks as thouhh he is on Road Runner, can you contact his Road Runner provider and tell them he is posting software illegally? Just an idea Gary Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > > > > > GTX_SlotCar wrote: > >> > >> Dave, you're a man on a mission. I've got to admire your persistence. > >> I bet you've never lost a pen :-) > > > > Dave's an instigator, a Catalyst :-) > > > > I'm having a hard time making my posts look exactly like that Confused > > guy, still working on it though, hopefully I'm close enough that > > someone spends a lot of time DL some weird old music videos I had on a > > mostly unused partition of an old HD on an old server....:-) > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > > --Groucho Marx-- > > > > Well Goy's method would be the only way that might work. If somebody > sat down and figured out just how big the files are he's sending and how > many chunks to cut them up with...we could duplicate his format. But... > I know when somebody can take a punch and Confused ain't gonna budge. > I don't know the procedure, but I propose a radical solution. > (the old 'What Would Captain Kirk do? plan) > I guess I'm not too thrilled having sim racing equated with software > theft, so does anyone know who to contact to disolve the > alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup? We can always start some other ng > later...but I'm thinking the only way to move these guys is to turn off the > newsgroup. > Any thoughts? > dave henrie

I sent his message information to [email hidden]. We'll see what happens from there. If I hear back, I'll let you know. But, this doesn't mean that I'm actually getting involved :-) -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > > GTX_SlotCar wrote: >> >> Dave, you're a man on a mission. I've got to admire your persistence. >> I bet you've never lost a pen :-) > > Dave's an instigator, a Catalyst :-) > > I'm having a hard time making my posts look exactly like that Confused > guy, still working on it though, hopefully I'm close enough that > someone spends a lot of time DL some weird old music videos I had on a > mostly unused partition of an old HD on an old server....:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx-- > Well Goy's method would be the only way that might work. If somebody sat down and figured out just how big the files are he's sending and how many chunks to cut them up with...we could duplicate his format. But... I know when somebody can take a punch and Confused ain't gonna budge. I don't know the procedure, but I propose a radical solution. (the old 'What Would Captain Kirk do? plan) I guess I'm not too thrilled having sim racing equated with software theft, so does anyone know who to contact to disolve the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup? We can always start some other ng later...but I'm thinking the only way to move these guys is to turn off the newsgroup. Any thoughts? dave henrie

I just sent off an email to the same address. I also let the makers of the software know. Maybe they can be more aggressive and actually threaten with legal repercussions... I guess only time will tell. -- dklassen86 -------------- http://www10.brinkster.com/dklassen86 remove _nospam in replies "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b4me25$20c0cq$[email hidden]... > I sent his message information to [email hidden]. We'll see what happens from > there. If I hear back, I'll let you know. > > But, this doesn't mean that I'm actually getting involved :-) > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com

Great, bring the feds into it just cuz your to lazy to scroll a few extra lines. "dklassen86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b5zba.200621$[email hidden]... > I just sent off an email to the same address. I also let the makers of the > software know. Maybe they can be more aggressive and actually threatenwith

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> legal repercussions... I guess only time will tell. > > -- > dklassen86 > -------------- > http://www10.brinkster.com/dklassen86 > remove _nospam in replies > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b4me25$20c0cq$[email hidden]... > > I sent his message information to [email hidden]. We'll see what happens > from > > there. If I hear back, I'll let you know. > > > > But, this doesn't mean that I'm actually getting involved :-) > > > > > > -- > > Slot > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > www.slottweak.com > >

>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > He's probably using a proxy server....... > > > That's an inside joke for the people in here that also frequents the > "other" NG :-) Ad Aware can fix that, or so I've heard! ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Ya OK wrote: > > Great, bring the feds into it just cuz your to lazy to scroll a few extra > lines. Please don't feed the trolls Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

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> > >"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > > He's probably using a proxy server....... > > > > > > That's an inside joke for the people in here that also frequents the > > "other" NG :-) > > Ad Aware can fix that, or so I've heard! ;)

Nice comeback Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

You're right, Goy. So I don't feed the trolls, I'll put my post here instead (as if it'll make a difference). My normal news server doesn't carry the binaries group, so I hopped on the roadrunner one (only hold messages about 3 days) to check it out. I'm set up to d/l 900 post at a time. Needless to say, I was quite surprised when all 900 were from that same guy for downloading some pirated GM software or something. If there were any other posts mixed in with his, I didn't find them and nobody else would have either. I guess when Dave said it was getting a little out of hand, I had no idea he meant. That is waaaaay beyond getting out of hand. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Ya OK wrote: > > > > Great, bring the feds into it just cuz your to lazy to scroll a few extra > > lines. > > Please don't feed the trolls > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx-- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003

"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:b4nmn2$20qc5m$[email hidden]:

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> You're right, Goy. So I don't feed the trolls, I'll put my post here > instead (as if it'll make a difference). > My normal news server doesn't carry the binaries group, so I hopped on > the roadrunner one (only hold messages about 3 days) to check it out. > I'm set up to d/l 900 post at a time. Needless to say, I was quite > surprised when all 900 were from that same guy for downloading some > pirated GM software or something. If there were any other posts mixed > in with his, I didn't find them and nobody else would have either. > I guess when Dave said it was getting a little out of hand, I had no > idea he meant. That is waaaaay beyond getting out of hand. > > > -- > Slot >

And the newsgroup software they use has far more capacity. I uploaded a bout 800 small files and didn't make a dent in their efforts. Since they just filter out our counter-flood attempts, there is little we can do except try and match the file size and naming. That would only confuse the end users and force requests for reposts. Still not a 'strong defense.' I don't see them being 'reasonable' folks..they have been in possesion of the newsgroup for years and seen un-inclined to leave. That's why I suggested killing the newsgroup. That is the only real way I can think of that will impact them. dave henrie

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> > You're right, Goy. So I don't feed the trolls, I'll put my post here instead > (as if it'll make a difference). > My normal news server doesn't carry the binaries group, so I hopped on the > roadrunner one (only hold messages about 3 days) to check it out. I'm set up > to d/l 900 post at a time. Needless to say, I was quite surprised when all > 900 were from that same guy for downloading some pirated GM software or > something. If there were any other posts mixed in with his, I didn't find > them and nobody else would have either. > I guess when Dave said it was getting a little out of hand, I had no idea he > meant. That is waaaaay beyond getting out of hand.

Exactly, just remember that there's more than one person using the "confused" name :-), I'm currently using OE for posting there, but I'll prolly look into something else soon as it's a major resource hog when setting up a new post I'm currently using my 2nd shop computer to post stuff there and with a 1mbit upload I'm managing quite a few posts pr day :-), good thing Teranet doesn't have an UL cap as none of my ISP's carry this NG either, although the UL speeds are nowhere near 1 mbit so I guess they have some sort of cap on it With the kind of traffic that NG is seeing these days, I wonder how long ISP's are storing the posts as my posts alone should be a couple of GB's worth alone, the server admins needs to limit the amount of space a single NG can use somehow, I know HD space is cheap these days, but even ISP's doesn't have unlimited server space... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

> I don't see them being 'reasonable' folks..they have been in possesion >of the newsgroup for years and seen un-inclined to leave. That's why I >suggested killing the newsgroup. That is the only real way I can think of >that will impact them. >dave henrie How the hell do you 'kill' a newsgroup??? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

From what I could tell by getting on one of their web sites (gleaned from the poster's email address), it looks like there's a bunch of people posting all kinds of things from xxx rated movies to who knows what. They store these on several binary newsgroups (which have nothing to do with the newsgroup topic) and can then be downloaded from the website via a menu. In other words, they're using the newsgroups as free storage space. I could be wrong about this and I only spent a minute or so on the site (I have better things to do, like practice Goodwood for my next GPL race), but that's what it looked like at first glance. It might be a good idea to get started on the new binary newsgroup before killing the old one, just in case it takes a while. Oh, 1:31s so far at Goodwood, FV class (F3 engine+F2 chassis = great online racing) in the BRM no less. Goal is 1:30s by race time :-) -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:b4nmn2$20qc5m$[email hidden]: > > > You're right, Goy. So I don't feed the trolls, I'll put my post here > > instead (as if it'll make a difference). > > My normal news server doesn't carry the binaries group, so I hopped on > > the roadrunner one (only hold messages about 3 days) to check it out. > > I'm set up to d/l 900 post at a time. Needless to say, I was quite > > surprised when all 900 were from that same guy for downloading some > > pirated GM software or something. If there were any other posts mixed > > in with his, I didn't find them and nobody else would have either. > > I guess when Dave said it was getting a little out of hand, I had no > > idea he meant. That is waaaaay beyond getting out of hand. > > > > > > -- > > Slot > > > And the newsgroup software they use has far more capacity. I uploaded a > bout 800 small files and didn't make a dent in their efforts. Since they > just filter out our counter-flood attempts, there is little we can do > except try and match the file size and naming. That would only confuse the > end users and force requests for reposts. Still not a 'strong defense.' > I don't see them being 'reasonable' folks..they have been in possesion > of the newsgroup for years and seen un-inclined to leave. That's why I > suggested killing the newsgroup. That is the only real way I can think of > that will impact them. > dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003

[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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>> I don't see them being 'reasonable' folks..they have been in >> possesion >>of the newsgroup for years and seen un-inclined to leave. That's why >>I suggested killing the newsgroup. That is the only real way I can >>think of that will impact them. >>dave henrie > > How the hell do you 'kill' a newsgroup??? > > Eldred

I have NO idea...but since you can somehow create newsgroups...I'm assuming you can also delete them. Probably takes a petition to an organizing body or some such thing. Hopefully we've got somebody here who knows the process...otherwise it's google time for me... dave henrie

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>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > ymenard wrote: > > >"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > He's probably using a proxy server....... > > > > Ad Aware can fix that, or so I've heard! ;) > > Nice comeback

Hey watch it I think you're stalking me now :P -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Let me know what you think of (Alldata Asian Red CD10) :) I think I got most of my settings pretty close to his (file size/part size/yenc) heh, dklassen86 -------------- http://www10.brinkster.com/dklassen86 remove _nospam in replies "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I thought his posting was stopped, but confused is back at it...sending > more alldata crap via the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup. Iemail > some of the receipiants, asking them to request confused move on...acouple > responded positively but others have just said tuff.. > > Any net detectives out there that can track this booger down? > dave henrie

Why not just send the header information to ALLDATA and let them enforce it based on software piracy basis? Jeff "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I thought his posting was stopped, but confused is back at it...sending > more alldata crap via the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup. Iemail > some of the receipiants, asking them to request confused move on...acouple > responded positively but others have just said tuff.. > > Any net detectives out there that can track this booger down? > dave henrie

I am going to look into this over the weekend. I will message all parties involved, but it will take some time. AllData is the best shot of getting this guy shut down. Killing the group is a choice, but if we make a new group, they will take that as well I am sure. But it is better than the plain binaries.simulators group. That one has been taken over by NAMBLA or something equally as disgusting. Also I will use power post to send 10.822.MB files, in 33 pieces of every league replay I have. Should help to get the point across. "Jeff Hails" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dolca.19428$[email hidden]... > Why not just send the header information to ALLDATA and let them enforceit > based on software piracy basis? > > Jeff > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I thought his posting was stopped, but confused is back atit...sending

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> > more alldata crap via the alt.binaries.simulators.autos newsgroup. I > email > > some of the receipiants, asking them to request confused move on...a > couple > > responded positively but others have just said tuff.. > > > > Any net detectives out there that can track this booger down? > > dave henrie > >