Logitech G25: is it easily removable?

Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results in 80% throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be looking for an upgrade soon. The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to remove the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my Logitech Momo, the screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the top? Since I do not have a dedicated simracing box, this is important to me. I really don't wanna type emails with the wheel attached in front of me... and I'm pretty sure my wife is even more opposed to doing so... ;) Thanks for any help, Hans

Have a look at this video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_kWmbmX6I Some good shots of the clamp in there. Hans de Heer wrote:

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> Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results in 80% > throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be looking for > an upgrade soon. > The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to remove > the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my Logitech Momo, the > screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the top? Since I do not have a > dedicated simracing box, this is important to me. I really don't wanna type > emails with the wheel attached in front of me... and I'm pretty sure my wife > is even more opposed to doing so... ;) > > Thanks for any help, Hans

Steven Foster wrote: > Have a look at this video review: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_kWmbmX6I > > Some good shots of the clamp in there. Thanks. Looks like it is indeed quite easy to uninstall. Although there is of course the extra unit with the gearshifter, and the cable hub might be somewhat more of a hassle than the cabling of my current Momo. Cheers, Hans

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:59:17 +0100, "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results in 80% >throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be looking for >an upgrade soon. >The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to remove >the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my Logitech Momo, the >screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the top? Since I do not have a >dedicated simracing box, this is important to me. I really don't wanna type >emails with the wheel attached in front of me... and I'm pretty sure my wife >is even more opposed to doing so... ;)

Very easy and painless. 2 thumbscrews at the top of each device and the clamping mechanism is surprisingly good. Cheers, Rod.

> Is it like my Logitech Momo, the screw on the bottom and the two clamps > from the top? I have a momo racing wheel and pedals, but because of the setup time, I almost always use twin joysticks, the left one for throttle/brake, and the right for steering (like the old rc transmitter for cars, although I only use rc for aircraft). The sticks just sit on a clipboard, which I wedge into a partially opened center drawer. I set them to the left when not in use. http://jeffareid.net/game/cr04.jpg

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:59:17 +0100, "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results in 80% >throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be looking for >an upgrade soon. >The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to remove >the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my Logitech Momo, the >screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the top? Since I do not have a >dedicated simracing box, this is important to me. I really don't wanna type >emails with the wheel attached in front of me... and I'm pretty sure my wife >is even more opposed to doing so... ;)

It's not, and for me it's the biggest flaw of the G25. There are 4 cables coming out of the G25. If you want to remove the unit, you have to pick up the pedals, the steer and the shifter unit all at once. This isn't really an option if you want to handle the units a bit carefully. So you have to remove the cables from the wheel so that you can remove the units one by one. Thing is, the cables are connected to the bottom and inside of the wheel. There is very little space there to connect the cables, and if you remove and reconnect the cables each time, you will surely damage the cables in no-time. Luckily I have a long desk, so I simply loosen the clamps of the wheel and shifter, and I shift the whole unit to the left. But thanks to the 4 cables and the cable to the pedals which is WAY too short, I have to do that carefully too. It would have been a lot better if you could plug in the cables on the outside of the wheel, just like with the Momo. For the rest the wheel is totally fantastic though :) Cheers Andre

Andre Warringa wrote: > It's not, and for me it's the biggest flaw of the G25. There are 4 > cables coming out of the G25. If you want to remove the unit, you have > to pick up the pedals, the steer and the shifter unit all at once. > This isn't really an option if you want to handle the units a bit > carefully. Hmm, okay.. I was kinda worried about that too. > Luckily I have a long desk, so I simply loosen the clamps of the wheel > and shifter, and I shift the whole unit to the left. But thanks to the > 4 cables and the cable to the pedals which is WAY too short, I have to > do that carefully too. My desk is long enough to do that too. So is it possible to shift wheel and gearshifter units 50cm to (in my case) the right without removing the cabling? Cheers, Hans

Rod wrote: > Very easy and painless. 2 thumbscrews at the top of each device and > the clamping mechanism is surprisingly good. Okay, so the problem might be the cabling, see Andre's reply. Thanks for your input! Cheers, Hans

> The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to remove the thing from my desktop when not in use. If I left a wheel clamped onto my desk and my wife wanted to use the computer, I'm sure she'd find the G25 easily removable, but I'd never be able to use it again.

Jeff Reid wrote: >> Is it like my Logitech Momo, the screw on the bottom and the two >> clamps from the top? > > I have a momo racing wheel and pedals, but because of the setup time, > I almost always use twin joysticks I have a Momo Racing and I don't find the setup time a problem. The cables are easily plugged into and out of the back of the wheel unit. Loosen the two clamps and center screw in the bottom of the unit and I can put the wheel aside. Cheers, Hans

Jeff Reid wrote: >> The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to >> remove the thing from my desktop when not in use. > > If I left a wheel clamped onto my desk and my wife wanted to use the > computer, I'm sure she'd find the G25 easily removable, but I'd never > be able to use it again. That's exactly why I want to remove the wheel myself after use.. ;) Cheers, Hans

Andre Warringa wrote:

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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:59:17 +0100, "Hans de Heer" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results in 80% >>throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be looking for >>an upgrade soon. >>The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to remove >>the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my Logitech Momo, the >>screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the top? Since I do not have a >>dedicated simracing box, this is important to me. I really don't wanna type >>emails with the wheel attached in front of me... and I'm pretty sure my wife >>is even more opposed to doing so... ;) > > > It's not, and for me it's the biggest flaw of the G25. There are 4 > cables coming out of the G25. If you want to remove the unit, you have > to pick up the pedals, the steer and the shifter unit all at once. > This isn't really an option if you want to handle the units a bit > carefully.

I don't understand... First I remove the shifter unit and put it on the floor next to the desk, then I remove the wheel and put it next to the shifter unit (the cables are long enough for that, no need to remove them). The pedal unit stays where it was. If you're putting the whole unit away, you're either too worried about a clean looking computer room, or you're not racing often enough... ;) l8er ronny Damn, I really have to get off my ass to build that cockpit sometime. It would put an end to "unclamping" the unit for good...

Ronald Stoehr wrote: > I don't understand... First I remove the shifter unit and put it on > the floor next to the desk, then I remove the wheel and put it next to the > shifter unit (the cables are long enough for that, no need to remove > them). The pedal unit stays where it was. That sounds like a good solution too. Thanks. First of all I'm gonna try to fix my Momo Racing, the problem seems to be quite generic: http://web.axelero.hu/mozso/momo_e5.html Cheers, Hans

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:03:39 +0100, "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Rod wrote: >> Very easy and painless. 2 thumbscrews at the top of each device and >> the clamping mechanism is surprisingly good. > >Okay, so the problem might be the cabling, see Andre's reply. Thanks for >your input! Cabling isn't so much of an issue for me so that's probably why it completely slipped my mind. It's just an extra few cables in my already cable nightmare that are my PC's. :P Cheers, Rod.

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:03:05 +0100, "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >My desk is long enough to do that too. So is it possible to shift wheel and >gearshifter units 50cm to (in my case) the right without removing the >cabling? > >Cheers, Hans That's no problem, I simply unplug the usb cable and shift the units allmost a meter to the left. Power cable is long enough to keep it plugged in. By the way, I'm sure you read some negative reviews about the shifter unit being a bit loose and short. I really had to get used to it too, but after a couple of weeks playing it becomes second nature. The only thing I still don't like about the wheel is the loud noise of the shifter unit when you shift gears. Cheers Andre

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:27:17 +0100, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I don't understand... First I remove the shifter unit and put it on the >floor next to the desk, then I remove the wheel and put it next to the >shifter unit (the cables are long enough for that, no need to remove them). >The pedal unit stays where it was. If you're putting the whole unit away, >you're either too worried about a clean looking computer room, or you're not >racing often enough... ;) > >l8er >ronny > >Damn, I really have to get off my ass to build that cockpit sometime. It would >put an end to "unclamping" the unit for good...

No you have a point, the way you do it is also an option. I was indeed talking about totally removing the wheel. I don't want to have it lying on the floor, I have 3 dogs and a cat who eat ANYTHING that's lying on the floor.. Cheers Andre

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:30:51 +0100, "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >http://web.axelero.hu/mozso/momo_e5.html > >Cheers, Hans Great guide.. but forget fixing that wheel and buy a G25 :) Seriously, you won't regret it, especially not if you have the Racing version of the Momo :) Cheers Andre

I'd be for finding a MS sidewinder FF wheel, that is what I have and still love it... Long live red version 2, knock on wood. I know, has a quirk, i fyou have xp pre service pack 2 release it works fine, if ya dont there is a hiccup with the "profiles" but afaik you can get around it. Hans de Heer enlightened us with:

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> Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results > in 80% throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be > looking for an upgrade soon. > The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to > remove the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my > Logitech Momo, the screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the > top? Since I do not have a dedicated simracing box, this is important > to me. I really don't wanna type emails with the wheel attached in > front of me... and I'm pretty sure my wife is even more opposed to > doing so... ;) > Thanks for any help, Hans

Andre Warringa wrote: > That's no problem, I simply unplug the usb cable and shift the units > allmost a meter to the left. Power cable is long enough to keep it > plugged in. While I love my G25, it is a PITA to setup and put away. Moving it to one side isn't possible for me as the pedal cables are just too short (I can't believe Logitech didn't get any feedback on this before release). I've found I do less racing now than I did with the old red Momo because of this. :( Of course, once it IS set up it's brilliant and it tends to stay setup for days at a time while I struggle to type around it. :) -- Mr Q -------------------

The G25 is really easy to remove if you have a rounded edge desk. Just attach, tighten, and take your eyes off it. It will fall off all by itself :) Actually, to be honest, it's not as bad as the DFP (the DFP for me really WAS as described above). Both wheels are sans middle clamp, which is pure stupidity in design and the only real thing I can gripe about hardware wise with the G25 wheel. Now, getting a bit more serious, the G25 setup is time consuming to set up and take down. First, there are 3 parts. The wheel, pedals and shifter. And you have to plug everything into a recess on the bottom of the wheel BEFORE you attach the wheel. It would have been far better if the would have left the connectors on the edges of teh wheen where you could get to them mounted. Would I still buy it? Sure. Is it a pain in the ass to set up and take down? Yep :) -Larry "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:45a95636$0$327$[email hidden]...

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> Since my Logitech Momo has gone bad (gas pedal floored only results in 80% > throttle or so.. have to see if cleaning will help) I might be looking for > an upgrade soon. > The G25 sounds really good, but I would like to know if it's easy to > remove the thing from my desktop when not in use. Is it like my Logitech > Momo, the screw on the bottom and the two clamps from the top? Since I do > not have a dedicated simracing box, this is important to me. I really > don't wanna type emails with the wheel attached in front of me... and I'm > pretty sure my wife is even more opposed to doing so... ;) > > Thanks for any help, Hans >

As long as the pedal cable still reaches. It is VERY short. -Larry "Hans de Heer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:45aa1bf8$0$339$[email hidden]... > My desk is long enough to do that too. So is it possible to shift wheel > and gearshifter units 50cm to (in my case) the right without removing the > cabling? > > Cheers, Hans >

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:05:25 +1100, Mr Q <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>While I love my G25, it is a PITA to setup and put away. Moving it to >one side isn't possible for me as the pedal cables are just too short (I >can't believe Logitech didn't get any feedback on this before release). >I've found I do less racing now than I did with the old red Momo because >of this. :( > >Of course, once it IS set up it's brilliant and it tends to stay setup >for days at a time while I struggle to type around it. :)

Just unplug the usb and power cable, move the pedal unit to the left, then you can move the wheel and shifter to the left.. Cheers Andre

Andre Warringa wrote: > Just unplug the usb and power cable, move the pedal unit to the left, > then you can move the wheel and shifter to the left.. I can't ... there's a wall to my left. :) More seriously, it's the whole unplug everything to move it/replug it all in to play it that's the PITA. I can't leave the pedals plugged in as the cable goes through a hole at the back of the desk and only just reaches (how much more expensive would another 50cm of cable have been?). The old Momo wheel I'd just unclamp and stick under the desk - no unplugging required. I can't do that with the G25 because of the number of connections - I'd HAVE to unplug the pedals and the other three cables would end up in a tangled mess all over the desk. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't swap it. It's just hard to believe there was any real world product testing given the awkwardness of the setup. Oh, and I'll second Larry's comments on the rounded desk edges. The shifter is fine but the wheel doesn't clamp firmly on a rounded edge - the clamps just don't go far enough back. I guess it must be mod time ... or is the G26 due out soon? :) -- Mr Q -------------------

Ah, someone who isn't surrounted by a desktop, two lcd's and three laptops at the same time :) -Larry "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just unplug the usb and power cable, move the pedal unit to the left, > then you can move the wheel and shifter to the left.. > > Cheers > Andre

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:51:24 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ah, someone who isn't surrounted by a desktop, two lcd's and three laptops >at the same time :) > >-Larry 3 monitors and a tv actually, that's why I don't want any more mess on my desk ;) Cheers Andre