RASCAR: How 'bout we all chip in an buy Eldred a new Videocard?

Guys, St. Eldred needs our help! How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an upgrade for NR2003. The card I have in mind is a Shappire Radeon 9500 with 64 or better yet - 128mb of memory. Why this particulare card? Well the Radeon 9500 can very easyli be modded (using software) to convert it into a Radeon 9700 card! The 9500 (*non* pro) rage of Radeon card are mostly based on the 9700 core.. it's just not using all 8 pipelines... and with the software modification you can open the last 4 pipelines, making it essentially into a fullygrown Radeon 9700 card :-) A card like this cost around $200 *over here* - so it's not too expensive (9700 Pro runs at around $500 up here - the 9700 slightly less..) We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere securely.. I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. Anyone care to follow up on that? -- ed_ ---------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC.

"Ed Solheim" wrote... > Guys, > > St. Eldred needs our help! > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > <snip> Like I was about to say in another post, if we get someone in the US to collect the money and buy the card, I think it's a very good idea. A sponsored driver in RASCAR!! ;-)) > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? I'll match it. > ---------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. I wouldn't bet against that one. Jan. =---

I'm in! Larry "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]...

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> Guys, > > St. Eldred needs our help! > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > > Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an

upgrade > for NR2003. > > The card I have in mind is a Shappire Radeon 9500 with 64 or better yet - > 128mb of memory. > Why this particulare card? Well the Radeon 9500 can very easyli be modded > (using software) to convert it into a Radeon 9700 card! The 9500 (*non*pro) > rage of Radeon card are mostly based on the 9700 core.. it's just notusing > all 8 pipelines... and with the software modification you can open thelast

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> 4 pipelines, making it essentially into a fullygrown Radeon 9700 card :-) > > A card like this cost around $200 *over here* - so it's not too expensive > (9700 Pro runs at around $500 up here - the 9700 slightly less..) > > We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere > securely.. > > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > >

"Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]...

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> > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > -- > ed_ >

Yep! Info on how to use Paypal would be appreciated though. Elrikk

I'm in too. David G Fisher "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]...

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> Guys, > > St. Eldred needs our help! > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > > Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an

upgrade > for NR2003. > > The card I have in mind is a Shappire Radeon 9500 with 64 or better yet - > 128mb of memory. > Why this particulare card? Well the Radeon 9500 can very easyli be modded > (using software) to convert it into a Radeon 9700 card! The 9500 (*non*pro) > rage of Radeon card are mostly based on the 9700 core.. it's just notusing > all 8 pipelines... and with the software modification you can open thelast

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> 4 pipelines, making it essentially into a fullygrown Radeon 9700 card :-) > > A card like this cost around $200 *over here* - so it's not too expensive > (9700 Pro runs at around $500 up here - the 9700 slightly less..) > > We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere > securely.. > > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > >

In article <AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> says...

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> Guys, > > St. Eldred needs our help! > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > > Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an upgrade > for NR2003. > > The card I have in mind is a Shappire Radeon 9500 with 64 or better yet - > 128mb of memory. > Why this particulare card? Well the Radeon 9500 can very easyli be modded > (using software) to convert it into a Radeon 9700 card! The 9500 (*non* pro) > rage of Radeon card are mostly based on the 9700 core.. it's just not using > all 8 pipelines... and with the software modification you can open the last > 4 pipelines, making it essentially into a fullygrown Radeon 9700 card :-) > > A card like this cost around $200 *over here* - so it's not too expensive > (9700 Pro runs at around $500 up here - the 9700 slightly less..) > > We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere > securely.. > > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? >

Well, I'm gonna say I did my part by sending Eldred money for the game itself (the check really is in the mail Eldred, so go out and buy the game now, and you can be sure you will be reimbursed in the next couple of days). :)

"John Simmons" wrote:

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> > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > > > Well, I'm gonna say I did my part by sending Eldred money for the > game itself (the check really is in the mail Eldred, so go out and > buy the game now, and you can be sure you will be reimbursed in the > next couple of days). :)

You most certainly did John. Great work - Sir! I'm working on setting up a donation account for Eldred so he can get a new graphics card too.. As far as I can tell we got over $100 "donated" now - so things are looking good :o)

OTW "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]...

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> Guys, > > St. Eldred needs our help! > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > > Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an

upgrade > for NR2003. > > The card I have in mind is a Shappire Radeon 9500 with 64 or better yet - > 128mb of memory. > Why this particulare card? Well the Radeon 9500 can very easyli be modded > (using software) to convert it into a Radeon 9700 card! The 9500 (*non*pro) > rage of Radeon card are mostly based on the 9700 core.. it's just notusing > all 8 pipelines... and with the software modification you can open thelast

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> 4 pipelines, making it essentially into a fullygrown Radeon 9700 card :-) > > A card like this cost around $200 *over here* - so it's not too expensive > (9700 Pro runs at around $500 up here - the 9700 slightly less..) > > We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere > securely.. > > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > >

In article <UtW0a.20180$[email hidden]>, edwins[_REMOVE_]@ [ says...

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> > "John Simmons" wrote: > > > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > > > > > > Well, I'm gonna say I did my part by sending Eldred money for the > > game itself (the check really is in the mail Eldred, so go out and > > buy the game now, and you can be sure you will be reimbursed in the > > next couple of days). :) > > You most certainly did John. Great work - Sir! > > I'm working on setting up a donation account for Eldred so he can get a new > graphics card too.. > As far as I can tell we got over $100 "donated" now - so things are looking > good :o) > > >

What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or better, a Ti4600.

Point taken. -- ed_ "John Simmons" said: > > What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > better, a Ti4600.

Just to follow up on this... I did a quick search on Pricewatch and it seems to me that a Ti4400 start at close to $190, while a Ti4600 cost about $210+ A Radeon 9500 128mb card starts at around $160 while the new Radeon 9100 128mb card cost around $85.. Keep those donations coming! Account details and such to follow as soon as I've worked this out with Eldred.

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> "John Simmons" said: > > > > > What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > > mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > > radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > > better, a Ti4600.

-- ed_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC.

In article <m1Z0a.25542$[email hidden]>, edwins[_REMOVE_]@ [ says...

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> Just to follow up on this... I did a quick search on Pricewatch and it seems > to me that a Ti4400 start at close to $190, while a Ti4600 cost about $210+ > A Radeon 9500 128mb card starts at around $160 while the new Radeon 9100 > 128mb card cost around $85.. > > Keep those donations coming! > > Account details and such to follow as soon as I've worked this out with > Eldred. > > > "John Simmons" said: > > > > > > > > What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > > > mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > > > radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > > > better, a Ti4600. > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > > >

The 9100 is the same as an 8500. The nVidias are almost all faster than an 8500...

[ says... The 9100 is the same as an 8500. The nVidias are almost all faster than an 8500...

>St. Eldred needs our help! >> How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics >> card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? As I mentioned in an earlier thread...I think it's the least we can do. I'm in for the card. Give me final details I.E. paypal..direct mail..etc. (I may be out of Rascar this year though :( Dan

In article <AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> writes: >Guys, > >St. Eldred needs our help! >How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics >card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? What?!? I didn't expect anyone to take my joke *seriously*... Thanks, guys! >We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere >securely. I have a PayPal account, but as I told you in e-mail, I've never used it since I created it. In other words, I don't even know HOW to use it... It's linked to my AOL address... Eldredp@... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I prefer to send a check. I'll never use PayPal for anything... Larry "elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QSV0a.22090$[email hidden]...

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> > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > news:AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]... > > > > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > > Yep! > > Info on how to use Paypal would be appreciated though. > > Elrikk > >

I'd prefer to send a check directly. I don't, and won't, use PayPal. Eldred, you can email me your address at "RacerLarry AT cox DOT net" Thanks :) Larry "Ed Solheim" <edwins[_REMOVE_]@[ _THIS_]online.no> wrote in message news:m1Z0a.25542$[email hidden]... > Just to follow up on this... I did a quick search on Pricewatch and itseems > to me that a Ti4400 start at close to $190, while a Ti4600 cost about$210+

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> A Radeon 9500 128mb card starts at around $160 while the new Radeon 9100 > 128mb card cost around $85.. > > Keep those donations coming! > > Account details and such to follow as soon as I've worked this out with > Eldred. > > > "John Simmons" said: > > > > > > > > What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > > > mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > > > radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > > > better, a Ti4600. > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > >

>I have a PayPal account Check your account Eldred. Hope you figure out how to get it <g> Dan

Count me in also, Eldred has been a great help to the racing sim community. Eddie

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> I'm in too. > > David G Fisher > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message > news:AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]... > > Guys, > > > > St. Eldred needs our help! > > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > > > > Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an > upgrade > > for NR2003. >

But we have to have Eldred sign a "barrichello austrian contract" and he has to let all of us pass in the last lap of each race... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> a �crit dans le message de news: AXU0a.20146$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > St. Eldred needs our help! > How about we all chip in and buy our good samaritan (sp?) a new graphics > card so he can join us in RASCAR this season? > > Eldred is stuck with some acient V5 card so he clearly could need an upgrade > for NR2003. > > The card I have in mind is a Shappire Radeon 9500 with 64 or better yet - > 128mb of memory. > Why this particulare card? Well the Radeon 9500 can very easyli be modded > (using software) to convert it into a Radeon 9700 card! The 9500 (*non* pro) > rage of Radeon card are mostly based on the 9700 core.. it's just not using > all 8 pipelines... and with the software modification you can open the last > 4 pipelines, making it essentially into a fullygrown Radeon 9700 card :-) > > A card like this cost around $200 *over here* - so it's not too expensive > (9700 Pro runs at around $500 up here - the 9700 slightly less..) > > We could set up a account for Eldred using PAYPAL to do the transfere > securely.. > > I'll start the pot by donating $20 for the card.. > > Anyone care to follow up on that? > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > >

Ed Solheim wrote: > I'm in for 20, let us know when and where to send the money Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" said: > I'm in for 20, let us know when and where to send the money >Will do... I am still working out the details with Eldred... Btw Goy, any status on our copies of NR2003 yet? :o) ed_

Ed Solheim wrote: > > Btw Goy, any status on our copies of NR2003 yet? :o) Nope....looks like 21st or something is the date, the guy I deal with at BJ's has been home sick most of this week and I haven't been able to get hold of him, they flat out refused to give out his home number....... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Bamadano) writes: >>I have a PayPal account > >Check your account Eldred. Hope you figure out how to get it <g> >Dan > Yeah, I saw the notification - thanks! Since I only have a personal PayPal account, it says I can't process credit card payments without upgrading to a premium account. Of course, the premium account charges fees - 2.9% + $.30 to recieve payments... Otherwise, peeople have to use their PayPal balance or a bank account to transfer money. Guess I'll have to upgrade... <g> For those who don't like PayPal, here's a mailing address: Eldred Pickett PO box 48021 Oak Park, MI 48237 Thanks guys, I *really* appreciate this... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Bamadano" wrote... > >I have a PayPal account > > Check your account Eldred. Hope you figure out how to get it <g> Did you check on whether he can actually receive money? -There are different levels of PayPal accounts... Jan. =---

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Ed Solheim wrote: > > > > Btw Goy, any status on our copies of NR2003 yet? :o) > > Nope....looks like 21st or something is the date, the guy I deal with at > BJ's has been home sick most of this week and I haven't been able to get > hold of him, they flat out refused to give out his home number....... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no"

. . . but . . . even in an emergency like this ??? It's inhuman ! Elrikk ;o)

elrikk wrote:

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Ed Solheim wrote: > > > > > > Btw Goy, any status on our copies of NR2003 yet? :o) > > > > Nope....looks like 21st or something is the date, the guy I deal with at > > BJ's has been home sick most of this week and I haven't been able to get > > hold of him, they flat out refused to give out his home number....... > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > . . . but . . . even in an emergency like this ??? It's inhuman !

That was my argument as well, didn't go down very well....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

>Did you check on whether he can actually receive money? -There are different >levels of PayPal accounts... No I didn't. Very sorry Eldred. Let me know the extra cost to upgrade and I will take care of my end for the extra. Thanks for pointing that out Jan. Still may be for nothing Dan

He shows up as verified unclaimed on my end. "Bamadano" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Did you check on whether he can actually receive money? -There aredifferent > >levels of PayPal accounts... > > No I didn't. Very sorry Eldred. Let me know the extra cost to upgrade andI > will take care of my end for the extra. Thanks for pointing that out Jan.Still > may be for nothing > Dan

In article <Nxg1a.1789$[email hidden]>, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> writes: >He shows up as verified unclaimed on my end. > I upgraded my account. Your transaction(and Dan's) went through fine. Thanks guys! Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Nxg1a.1789$[email hidden]>,"Mitch_A" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >He shows up as verified unclaimed on my end. > > > > I upgraded my account. Your transaction(and Dan's) went through fine.Thanks > guys! There should be a little more in your account now. :) Kyle

In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: >What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his >mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the >radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or >better, a Ti4600. I have an Athlon 1.2G, A Ti4600 will work with that? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > >mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > >radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > >better, a Ti4600. > > I have an Athlon 1.2G, A Ti4600 will work with that? > > Eldred >

Most definitely. *However*, they are pricier than the 9500's, but not by much (only $10 when comparing price between reatil Radeon and Asus Ti4600). There's no need to get an AGP8x card if your motherboard doesn't support it, so that'll save you some bucks (again not much). Expect to pay about $200 if you get either card. How much money is in your card fund so far?

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > In article <[email hidden]>, JohnSimmons

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> > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > > >mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > > >radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > > >better, a Ti4600. > > > > I have an Athlon 1.2G, A Ti4600 will work with that? > > > > Eldred > > >

<snip> > > How much money is in your card fund so far? > Eldred. How do I get money to you through Paypal ? Never used it before. Elrikk

Got it! The checks in the mail :) Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Sa%0a.10826$[email hidden]...

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> I'd prefer to send a check directly. I don't, and won't, use PayPal. > > Eldred, you can email me your address at "RacerLarry AT cox DOT net" > > Thanks :) > > Larry > > "Ed Solheim" <edwins[_REMOVE_]@[ _THIS_]online.no> wrote in message > news:m1Z0a.25542$[email hidden]... > > Just to follow up on this... I did a quick search on Pricewatch and it > seems > > to me that a Ti4400 start at close to $190, while a Ti4600 cost about > $210+ > > A Radeon 9500 128mb card starts at around $160 while the new Radeon 9100 > > 128mb card cost around $85.. > > > > Keep those donations coming! > > > > Account details and such to follow as soon as I've worked this out with > > Eldred. > > > > > "John Simmons" said: > > > > > > > > > > > What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > > > > mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > > > > radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > > > > better, a Ti4600. > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > > > > > >

elrikk wrote: > > Eldred. How do I get money to you through Paypal ? Never used it before. Do you have a PayPal account ? If not you need to sign up for one, once you've done that you can can "send money" to anyone by using the e-mail they used to sign up for an account with, Eldred uses his AOL addy for it eldredp@....etc Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > elrikk wrote: > > > > Eldred. How do I get money to you through Paypal ? Never used itbefore.

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> > Do you have a PayPal account ? > > If not you need to sign up for one, once you've done that you can can > "send money" to anyone by using the e-mail they used to sign up for an > account with, Eldred uses his AOL addy for it eldredp@....etc > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" >

Thanks Goy. Worked like a charm. Elrikk

It will work, but sorta overkill. A TI 4200 128 would do just as good as job with your processor. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, JohnSimmons

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > >mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > >radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > >better, a Ti4600. > > I have an Athlon 1.2G, A Ti4600 will work with that? > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-0.381 > MonsterRank: +339.873 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <LXy1a.11870$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > It will work, but sorta overkill. A TI 4200 128 would do just as good as job > with your processor. > Overkill is always better than "just enough"... :)

First of all, I am sorry for the delay with setting this thing up - we had a little water-problem at our workshop and I had to take care of a leaking roof first :o) Anyway... here goes; Those who want to help out and donate some money to Eldred - please head over to RASCAR's new home on the web at http://rascar.racesimcentral.com and follow the instructions. An update on the proceedings are sure to follow shortly... Now, if you excuse me - I have some money to be sent :o) Best regards, Ed Solheim

Tom's hardware got a decent VGA-chat that consider both fast and slow PC's.... Charts show preformance on both a Athlon 1000 mhz setup aswell as a Athlon XP 2700+ setup. This should give you a good idea on what to get IMO. http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030120/index.html -- ed_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC.

In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Most definitely. > >*However*, they are pricier than the 9500's, but not by much (only >$10 when comparing price between reatil Radeon and Asus Ti4600). > >There's no need to get an AGP8x card if your motherboard doesn't >support it, so that'll save you some bucks (again not much). > >Expect to pay about $200 if you get either card. > >How much money is in your card fund so far?

$115 at last count. Thanks to all who have helped so far! Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Eldred, you may even consider a mobo/cpu upgrade instead of a vid upgrade at the moment. I was just a Fry's and saw a combo XP2000 cpu ECS mobo for $89. I know not the best mobo but it does support both sdr and ddr so you can re-use existing memory. Use that and the GF2 in the meantime may give a greater bang for the buck at the moment than a 4600 with your athlon 1.2. CPU rules.. In a few months we can have another E drive and then get a video card to go with the mobo/cpu upgrade and you'll be set... Just throwing out ideas. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, JohnSimmons

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Most definitely. > > > >*However*, they are pricier than the 9500's, but not by much (only > >$10 when comparing price between reatil Radeon and Asus Ti4600). > > > >There's no need to get an AGP8x card if your motherboard doesn't > >support it, so that'll save you some bucks (again not much). > > > >Expect to pay about $200 if you get either card. > > > >How much money is in your card fund so far? > > $115 at last count. Thanks to all who have helped so far! > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-0.381 > MonsterRank: +339.873 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <SbJ1a.1619$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Eldred, you may even consider a mobo/cpu upgrade instead of a vid upgrade at > the moment. I was just a Fry's and saw a combo XP2000 cpu ECS mobo for $89. > I know not the best mobo but it does support both sdr and ddr so you can > re-use existing memory. Use that and the GF2 in the meantime may give a > greater bang for the buck at the moment than a 4600 with your athlon 1.2. > CPU rules.. > > In a few months we can have another E drive and then get a video card to go > with the mobo/cpu upgrade and you'll be set... > > Just throwing out ideas. > >

He's currently using a VERY outdated (and unsupported) video card. I figured since he's got an amd 1.2, he'd be better off with a video card that is a known performer.

GF2 isn't that outdated. It will work ok with N6 and a good CPU. The Voodoo5 on the other hand is ancient ;) ... The 4600 will work fine in his rig, just thinkin a little farther down the road is all. Mitch "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <SbJ1a.1619$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Eldred, you may even consider a mobo/cpu upgrade instead of a vidupgrade at > > the moment. I was just a Fry's and saw a combo XP2000 cpu ECS mobo for$89. > > I know not the best mobo but it does support both sdr and ddr so you can > > re-use existing memory. Use that and the GF2 in the meantime may give a > > greater bang for the buck at the moment than a 4600 with your athlon1.2. > > CPU rules.. > > > > In a few months we can have another E drive and then get a video card togo

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> > with the mobo/cpu upgrade and you'll be set... > > > > Just throwing out ideas. > > > > > > He's currently using a VERY outdated (and unsupported) video card. I > figured since he's got an amd 1.2, he'd be better off with a video > card that is a known performer. >

In article <SbJ1a.1619$[email hidden]>, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> writes: >In a few months we can have another E drive and then get a video card to go >with the mobo/cpu upgrade and you'll be set... People have been *very* generous so far(I'm about halfway there). I wouldn't expect them to do it again in a few months...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

We're buying, so let the man purchase for the future, dammit :) Larry "RHinNC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LXy1a.11870$[email hidden]... > It will work, but sorta overkill. A TI 4200 128 would do just as good asjob

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> with your processor. > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, John > Simmons > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >What he gets should a) be up to him, and b) dependant on his > > >mboard/cpu. If he's got anything less than a 1.6ghz machine, the > > >radeon won't do much for him. He'd be better off with a Ti4400, or > > >better, a Ti4600. > > > > I have an Athlon 1.2G, A Ti4600 will work with that? > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank:-0.381 > > MonsterRank: +339.873 > > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, JohnSimmons

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Most definitely. > > > >*However*, they are pricier than the 9500's, but not by much (only > >$10 when comparing price between reatil Radeon and Asus Ti4600). > > > >There's no need to get an AGP8x card if your motherboard doesn't > >support it, so that'll save you some bucks (again not much). > > > >Expect to pay about $200 if you get either card. > > > >How much money is in your card fund so far? > > $115 at last count. Thanks to all who have helped so far! > > Eldred

There should be another $20 in there now. :-) David G Fisher