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N2003: some questions because I am a lazy lazy man

13 posts by 9 people · 08 Feb 2003 04:40 UTC - 09 Feb 2003 02:41 UTC

Brian Oster 08 Feb 2003 04:40 UTC#78038
I am sure I could spend all day surfing the net and find the answers but: 1. Has anyone tried their N2002 setups with N2003? How do they compare? Can you easily convert them with a few minor tweaks? 2. Is it just me or does D3D look way better than OpenGL? For the best eye candy should I run D3D? 3. I have an Athlon 2100, 512mb, Geforce II Ultra. I am not getting very good frame rates. Do you think a Geforce 4 Ti will increase frame rates? Or do you think my cpu is the bottleneck? (Loaded question I know) 3a. Any good tips to squeeze out a few extra frame rates for those of us with aging systems? I am looking for the best frame rate/eye candy ratio here. In other words what graphic options should I give up in the quest for frame rates. 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? 5. Does it seem like the fixed fast setups for the plate tracks are better suited for a top fuel dragster? (We may have problems in RASCAR)
you should get some decent framerates. I have a athlon 2100 o/c to 2.5ghz and a radeon8500...got everything on but bldg shadows......1024x768x32...looks very good "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (33 lines)> I am sure I could spend all day surfing the net and find the answers > but: > > 1. Has anyone tried their N2002 setups with N2003? How do they > compare? Can you easily convert them with a few minor tweaks? > > 2. Is it just me or does D3D look way better than OpenGL? For the > best eye candy should I run D3D? > > 3. I have an Athlon 2100, 512mb, Geforce II Ultra. I am not getting > very good frame rates. Do you think a Geforce 4 Ti will increase > frame rates? Or do you think my cpu is the bottleneck? (Loaded > question I know) > > 3a. Any good tips to squeeze out a few extra frame rates for those of > us with aging systems? I am looking for the best frame rate/eye candy > ratio here. In other words what graphic options should I give up in > the quest for frame rates. > > 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root > canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. > > 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? > > 5. Does it seem like the fixed fast setups for the plate tracks are > better suited for a top fuel dragster? (We may have problems in > RASCAR) > > > > > >
Yeah "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (34 lines)> I am sure I could spend all day surfing the net and find the answers > but: > > 1. Has anyone tried their N2002 setups with N2003? How do they > compare? Can you easily convert them with a few minor tweaks? > > 2. Is it just me or does D3D look way better than OpenGL? For the > best eye candy should I run D3D? > > 3. I have an Athlon 2100, 512mb, Geforce II Ultra. I am not getting > very good frame rates. Do you think a Geforce 4 Ti will increase > frame rates? Or do you think my cpu is the bottleneck? (Loaded > question I know) > > 3a. Any good tips to squeeze out a few extra frame rates for those of > us with aging systems? I am looking for the best frame rate/eye candy > ratio here. In other words what graphic options should I give up in > the quest for frame rates. > > 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root > canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. > > 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? > > 5. Does it seem like the fixed fast setups for the plate tracks are > better suited for a top fuel dragster? (We may have problems in > RASCAR) > > > > > > >
"Jerry Hunnicutt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7H01a.25787$SD6.1714@sccrnsc03... > you should get some decent framerates. I have a athlon 2100 o/c to 2.5ghz > and a radeon8500...got everything on but bldg > shadows......1024x768x32...looks very good I'll bet you don't have "Track Specular Highlights checked! That one brings my system to a crawl. -Tim
jon 08 Feb 2003 07:59 UTC↳ reply to Brian Oster#77865
I got a gf ti 4200, amd 1900 xp, and get around 40 fps (with an occasional hiccup) with all the graphics options except the second set of shadows. Thats with 2x aa in 1152x864 32bit. "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (33 lines)> I am sure I could spend all day surfing the net and find the answers > but: > > 1. Has anyone tried their N2002 setups with N2003? How do they > compare? Can you easily convert them with a few minor tweaks? > > 2. Is it just me or does D3D look way better than OpenGL? For the > best eye candy should I run D3D? > > 3. I have an Athlon 2100, 512mb, Geforce II Ultra. I am not getting > very good frame rates. Do you think a Geforce 4 Ti will increase > frame rates? Or do you think my cpu is the bottleneck? (Loaded > question I know) > > 3a. Any good tips to squeeze out a few extra frame rates for those of > us with aging systems? I am looking for the best frame rate/eye candy > ratio here. In other words what graphic options should I give up in > the quest for frame rates. > > 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root > canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. > > 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? > > 5. Does it seem like the fixed fast setups for the plate tracks are > better suited for a top fuel dragster? (We may have problems in > RASCAR) > > > > > >
jon 08 Feb 2003 08:01 UTC↳ reply to Tim Miser#77866
I had to give up a few fps to run that option, but the way the Daytona daytime track looks so doggone good..... "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Hy21a.33298$[email hidden]... > "Jerry Hunnicutt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7H01a.25787$SD6.1714@sccrnsc03... > > you should get some decent framerates. I have a athlon 2100 o/c to2.5ghz > > and a radeon8500...got everything on but bldg > > shadows......1024x768x32...looks very good > > I'll bet you don't have "Track Specular Highlights checked! That onebrings > my system to a crawl. > > -Tim > >
In article <[email hidden]>, bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com says... > I am sure I could spend all day surfing the net and find the answers > but: > > 1. Has anyone tried their N2002 setups with N2003? How do they > compare? Can you easily convert them with a few minor tweaks? What setups? I'm probably the last person thatshould go into "Garage" for anything other than picking a setup from the list. > 2. Is it just me or does D3D look way better than OpenGL? For the > best eye candy should I run D3D? D3D has always looked better than OpenGL, but (until now) OpenGL has always performed better. Now that their performance is pretty much the same, D3D is the easy choice. > 3. I have an Athlon 2100, 512mb, Geforce II Ultra. I am not getting > very good frame rates. Do you think a Geforce 4 Ti will increase > frame rates? Or do you think my cpu is the bottleneck? (Loaded > question I know) You should get a 9700 Pro or a Ti4600 (my choice would be the 9700). > 3a. Any good tips to squeeze out a few extra frame rates for those of > us with aging systems? I am looking for the best frame rate/eye candy > ratio here. In other words what graphic options should I give up in > the quest for frame rates. The shadows and the sun glare provide the absolute best improvement in frame rates. > 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root > canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. I think it's just you. > 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? I heard that a renowned setup guy has released a full set of setups for NR2K3, but I can't for the life of me remember his name. You can find it (his name) on the sierra forums though. > > 5. Does it seem like the fixed fast setups for the plate tracks are > better suited for a top fuel dragster? (We may have problems in > RASCAR) I haven't tried a fast setup, yet, just the jasper stuff. Jasper seems a bit pushy to me, but some folks complain that the fast setup is looser than my ex-wife after a military payday.
"Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... <snip> > > 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root > canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. > <snip> I would rather play with ascii graphics the go to the dentist for root canal! But that's probably just me. Elrikk ;o)
Thanks John. I probably will shell out the bucks to upgrade the graphics card. I just hate to do it and find out my cpu was the bottleneck. BTW, in the limited testing I have done I get better frame rates with OpenGL than with D3D... but that may be because of my card. If I remember correctly some of the most significant improvements over the geforce2 in the later cards was in D3D. Brian On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 11:56:43 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (52 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, >bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com says... >> I am sure I could spend all day surfing the net and find the answers >> but: >> >> 1. Has anyone tried their N2002 setups with N2003? How do they >> compare? Can you easily convert them with a few minor tweaks? > >What setups? I'm probably the last person thatshould go into >"Garage" for anything other than picking a setup from the list. > >> 2. Is it just me or does D3D look way better than OpenGL? For the >> best eye candy should I run D3D? > >D3D has always looked better than OpenGL, but (until now) OpenGL has >always performed better. Now that their performance is pretty much >the same, D3D is the easy choice. > >> 3. I have an Athlon 2100, 512mb, Geforce II Ultra. I am not getting >> very good frame rates. Do you think a Geforce 4 Ti will increase >> frame rates? Or do you think my cpu is the bottleneck? (Loaded >> question I know) > >You should get a 9700 Pro or a Ti4600 (my choice would be the 9700). > >> 3a. Any good tips to squeeze out a few extra frame rates for those of >> us with aging systems? I am looking for the best frame rate/eye candy >> ratio here. In other words what graphic options should I give up in >> the quest for frame rates. > >The shadows and the sun glare provide the absolute best improvement >in frame rates. > >> 3b. Is it just me, but I rather go to the dentist and get a root >> canal than uncheck a graphics option... it is such a hard compromise. > >I think it's just you. > >> 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? > >I heard that a renowned setup guy has released a full set of setups >for NR2K3, but I can't for the life of me remember his name. You can >find it (his name) on the sierra forums though. > >> >> 5. Does it seem like the fixed fast setups for the plate tracks are >> better suited for a top fuel dragster? (We may have problems in >> RASCAR) > >I haven't tried a fast setup, yet, just the jasper stuff. Jasper >seems a bit pushy to me, but some folks complain that the fast setup >is looser than my ex-wife after a military payday.
In article <[email hidden]>, bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com says...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Thanks John. I probably will shell out the bucks to upgrade the > graphics card. I just hate to do it and find out my cpu was the > bottleneck. BTW, in the limited testing I have done I get better > frame rates with OpenGL than with D3D... but that may be because of my > card. If I remember correctly some of the most significant > improvements over the geforce2 in the later cards was in D3D. > > >> 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? > > > >I heard that a renowned setup guy has released a full set of setups > >for NR2K3, but I can't for the life of me remember his name. You can > >find it (his name) on the sierra forums though.
The setup guy's name is Bob Stanley. I've used his setups in the past and they are damn quick.
Oh ya, almost all of my N2002 setups are derivatives of his. Usually they are posted on Light-speed, but they have not put them up yet. Brian Oster On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:08:54 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, >bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com says... >> Thanks John. I probably will shell out the bucks to upgrade the >> graphics card. I just hate to do it and find out my cpu was the >> bottleneck. BTW, in the limited testing I have done I get better >> frame rates with OpenGL than with D3D... but that may be because of my >> card. If I remember correctly some of the most significant >> improvements over the geforce2 in the later cards was in D3D. >> >> >> 4. Any good sites yet for setups/paint jobs? >> > >> >I heard that a renowned setup guy has released a full set of setups >> >for NR2K3, but I can't for the life of me remember his name. You can >> >find it (his name) on the sierra forums though. > >The setup guy's name is Bob Stanley. I've used his setups in the >past and they are damn quick.
I'm not sure if they are uploaded to their Setup Exchange on the main page yet, but Bob's setups are posted in a thread in the NR2003 Setups Forum http://www.sportplanet.com/team-lightspeed/board/ db "Brian Oster" <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Oh ya, almost all of my N2002 setups are derivatives of his. Usually > they are posted on Light-speed, but they have not put them up yet. > > > On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:08:54 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote: > >The setup guy's name is Bob Stanley. I've used his setups in the > >past and they are damn quick. >
John Simmons sierra forums though. > > The setup guy's name is Bob Stanley. I've used his setups in the > past and they are damn quick. > John SIMMONS, Bob STANLEY...Is this the rebirth of KISS? dave henrie

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