OT: ATI Radeon 9700/9500 Series Secondary display error/question

Hi guys, I just finished building my first computer. It has the following specs -- AMD Athlon XP 2100+ Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory ATI Radeon 9500 Pro Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW Windows XP Home Edition I have a question regarding the ATI Radeon 9500 Pro video card. When I first log-on, I get an ATI Desktop Help dialog box that says "Using TV Display ... If you are not using a TV for your computer's display, it is recommended that you disable TV display for optimal performance ...". There is a check box that is checked for "Show window at start up when TV display is enabled". Now I obviously am not using a TV for the display, so I click on the "Enable or Disable TV Display" button and it shows you how to turn off the TV display: Go to Display Properties->Advanced->Displays Tab. Here it shows my monitor along with three other items -- Monitor, YpbPr and TV. The latter three are all grayed out. The help tells me to click a green enable/disable button on the TV choice, but this is not possible since it is grayed out. Note: In Display Properties it shows icons for your displays and lists them in a drop down list box. I see a large "1" representing my computer monitor with the corresponding "Dell D1025TM on Radeon 9700/9500 Series" in the list box. But there is also a small fuzzy "2" icon with "(Default Monitor) on Radeon 9700/9500 Series Secondary" in the list. If I select "2. (Default Monitor) on Radeon ... Secondary" and then click Advanced, I do not get the custom ATI tabbed interface, so I can't get to an active green button that way. Note: the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" check box is NOT checked. Under Device Manager->Display Adapters, I see both Radeon 9700/9500 Series and Radeon 9700/9500 Series Secondary. I right clicked on the latter and chose "disable" and rebooted. I still get the "Using TV Display" message which is disturbing. Now I no longer see the "1" and "2" in Display Properties and only the Dell monitor on the normal adapter is shown (no Secondary), which sounds right. However, now I get an error dialog "ATIX10.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." If I re-enable the Secondary adapter, this error message does not go away. Is all this normal? Things seem to be working fine. Do any of you other Radeon 9500/9700 owners experience anything like this? Should I just uncheck the "Show window at start up when TV display is enabled" and forget about it? What about that new error dialog regarding ATIX10.exe? My ATI driver is dated 10/12/2002, version 6.13.10.6200. Thanks in advance, Dave Ewing -- **************************************** David A. Ewing [email hidden] ****************************************

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> Hi guys, > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the following specs -- > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > Windows XP Home Edition

Can't help ya Dave, but your specs are almost exactly what I was shooting for...do you have any benchmark #'s available? Like 3dmarkse and the 3dconfig for the ISI F1 2k2 sim & mods??? dave henrie

Hi Dave, Sorry, I don't have any of those benchmark programs, but I've been thinking of picking up 3DMarkSE. Once I get everything sorted out and tweaked I'll also post some frame rate results for you. Dave Ewing "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mh9S9.578793$WL3.170832@rwcrnsc54... > > "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:avb43j$eed$[email hidden]... > > Hi guys, > > > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the followingspecs --

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> > > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > > Windows XP Home Edition > > Can't help ya Dave, but your specs are almost exactly what I was > shooting for...do you have any benchmark #'s available? Like 3dmarkse and > the 3dconfig for the ISI F1 2k2 sim & mods??? > dave henrie > >

Thanks, Ken. Dave "Ken MacKay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You can ignore that message. If the TV-out is greyed out then its off.With my > ATI card (don't ask it old ;-( ) you have to have a TV connected at bootto get > the TV-out option. Don't know about the error message though. HTH > > Ken >

Ok, for the EA F1 benchmark, you can download the demo of F1 2k2 or Nascar thunder. thanks.. dh "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avdokc$se9$[email hidden]... > Hi Dave, > > Sorry, I don't have any of those benchmark programs, but I've beenthinking

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> of picking up 3DMarkSE. Once I get everything sorted out and tweaked I'll > also post some frame rate results for you. > > Dave Ewing > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mh9S9.578793$WL3.170832@rwcrnsc54... > > > > "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:avb43j$eed$[email hidden]... > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the following > specs -- > > > > > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > > > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > > > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > > > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > > > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > > > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > > > Windows XP Home Edition > > > > Can't help ya Dave, but your specs are almost exactly what I

was > > shooting for...do you have any benchmark #'s available? Like 3dmarkseand > > the 3dconfig for the ISI F1 2k2 sim & mods??? > > dave henrie > > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

David, first off, congrats on your new pc and welcome to the world of building your own. It is the only way to go. First off, the ATI desktop help window that appears is normal. It will always show up after you install your card or a new driver. The wording ATI uses has always been confusing and I don't know why they don't change it. Just uncheck it the box in the lower left and it won't show up again. In your display properties, it again is normal to show display 1 as your current monitor and display 2 as a default monitor on the secondary channel. Keep this on 1 and that is normal not to show any ATI tabs in the advanced section when you have 2 selected. In the Device Manager, it should show both the Radeon 9500/9700 and the R9500/9700 secondary however don't disable #2. They should both be enabled and that is normal. Remember, the "Show window at startup when TV display is enabled" has nothing to do with any of these other issues. After making all of these corrections and re-enabling both display devices, if you still get the error dialog about ATIX10.exe, first thing I would try is updating your driver. That version you have installed is very old now. Go to ATI.com and download and install the Catalyst 3.0 driver and if you haven't already done so, update to DX9 from Microsoft's website first. The 9500 is a DX9 card so you'll definately benefit from this. If doing this driver update doesn't solve the error dialog, give system restore a try. If that fixed it, then repeat the driver update and dx9 install. Another option is to completely unistall the driver in add/remove programs and then reinstall it. Good luck. -Tim "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avb43j$eed$[email hidden]...

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> Hi guys, > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the following specs -- > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > Windows XP Home Edition > > I have a question regarding the ATI Radeon 9500 Pro video card. > > When I first log-on, I get an ATI Desktop Help dialog box that says "Using > TV Display ... If you are not using a TV for your computer's display, it

is > recommended that you disable TV display for optimal performance ...".There > is a check box that is checked for "Show window at start up when TVdisplay > is enabled". > > Now I obviously am not using a TV for the display, so I click on the"Enable > or Disable TV Display" button and it shows you how to turn off the TV > display: Go to Display Properties->Advanced->Displays Tab. Here it showsmy > monitor along with three other items -- Monitor, YpbPr and TV. The latter > three are all grayed out. The help tells me to click a greenenable/disable > button on the TV choice, but this is not possible since it is grayed out. > > Note: In Display Properties it shows icons for your displays and liststhem > in a drop down list box. I see a large "1" representing my computermonitor > with the corresponding "Dell D1025TM on Radeon 9700/9500 Series" in thelist > box. But there is also a small fuzzy "2" icon with "(Default Monitor) on > Radeon 9700/9500 Series Secondary" in the list. > > If I select "2. (Default Monitor) on Radeon ... Secondary" and then click > Advanced, I do not get the custom ATI tabbed interface, so I can't get toan

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> active green button that way. Note: the "Extend my Windows desktop onto > this monitor" check box is NOT checked. > > Under Device Manager->Display Adapters, I see both Radeon 9700/9500 Series > and Radeon 9700/9500 Series Secondary. I right clicked on the latter and > chose "disable" and rebooted. I still get the "Using TV Display" message > which is disturbing. Now I no longer see the "1" and "2" in Display > Properties and only the Dell monitor on the normal adapter is shown (no > Secondary), which sounds right. > > However, now I get an error dialog "ATIX10.exe has encountered a problem

and > needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." If I re-enable the > Secondary adapter, this error message does not go away. > > Is all this normal? Things seem to be working fine. Do any of you other > Radeon 9500/9700 owners experience anything like this? Should I justuncheck

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> the "Show window at start up when TV display is enabled" and forget about > it? What about that new error dialog regarding ATIX10.exe? > > My ATI driver is dated 10/12/2002, version 6.13.10.6200. > > Thanks in advance, > > Dave Ewing > > -- > **************************************** > David A. Ewing > [email hidden] > **************************************** > >

Hi Dave, Actually, I do have F1 2002 and thus the 3D setup benchmark. I bought the game in anticipation of my new computer. Here are some scores -- 1024x768, 16 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 45.2 M/tri, Full, Full Turning on 2x or 4x AA does not affect the scores at 16 bit. 1024x768, 32 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 44.9 M/tri, Full, Full 2x AA = 39.3 M/tri 4x AA = 34.1 M/tri 1280x1024, 16 bit, 75 Hz, No AA, 40.5 M/tri, Full, Full 32 bit = 39.3 M/tri 32 bit, 2x AA = 33.0 M/tri 32 bit, 4x AA = 28.2 M/tri -- High, Full 1600x1200, 16 bit, 60Hz, No AA, No VSync, 36.3 M/tri, Full, Full 32 bit = 34.9 M/tri 32 bit, 2x AA = 28.5 M/tri, High, Full 32 bit, 4x AA = 24.5 M/tri, High, Full Dave Ewing "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r5vS9.467437$pN3.50787@sccrnsc03...

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> Ok, for the EA F1 benchmark, you can download the demo of F1 2k2 or > Nascar thunder. > thanks.. > dh > > > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the following > > specs -- > > > > > > > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > > > > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > > > > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > > > > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > > > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > > > > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > > > > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > > > > Windows XP Home Edition

"David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avg9a4$9lg$[email hidden]... > Hi Dave, > > Actually, I do have F1 2002 and thus the 3D setup benchmark. I bought the > game in anticipation of my new computer. Here are some scores -- > > 1024x768, 16 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 45.2 M/tri, Full, Full Great, thats near double my current numbers. The reason AA doesn't effect the 16bit scores is that the new Radeons haven't had drivers that work with 16bit FSAA. But somebody said that will be fixed soon. Great info...thanks for the report. dh.

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> > Turning on 2x or 4x AA does not affect the scores at 16 bit. > > 1024x768, 32 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 44.9 M/tri, Full, Full > > 2x AA = 39.3 M/tri > 4x AA = 34.1 M/tri > > 1280x1024, 16 bit, 75 Hz, No AA, 40.5 M/tri, Full, Full > > 32 bit = 39.3 M/tri > 32 bit, 2x AA = 33.0 M/tri > 32 bit, 4x AA = 28.2 M/tri -- High, Full > > 1600x1200, 16 bit, 60Hz, No AA, No VSync, 36.3 M/tri, Full, Full > > 32 bit = 34.9 M/tri > 32 bit, 2x AA = 28.5 M/tri, High, Full > 32 bit, 4x AA = 24.5 M/tri, High, Full > > Dave Ewing > >

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Hmm, your scores just don't seem high enough. I was considering the 9500 Pro (and an AMD 2100) as an upgrade after seeing the stellar FSAA performance (considering the price) in anandtech's updated review with the final retail board but now I'm not so sure. For comparison here's my rig: AMD 1600+/512MB Ram/GF4 Ti4400 (30.82 & DX9) My config score at 1280x1024x32-bit, 85Hz, No AA, No VSync is 37M/tri, Full, Full (compared to your 39M/tri). My score is far too close to your score considering you have a substantially faster cpu and a slightly faster video card (especially at higher res and/or with FSAA/anis). Would you mind trying an in-game test? Pick a track and run at the back of the pack at 1280x1024x32-bit with no FSAA, 2xFSAA, 4xFSAA and 6xFSAA/8-anis and note your fps (I usually get 20-30 start of race depending on the track and then 40-60 while racing). This would be very helpful to someone like me who is considering a card mainly for FSAA and more consistent fps (I anticipate the 9700 Pro will be the only meaningful upgrade for me based on your 3D config numbers). TIA. -- Joe M. "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avg9a4$9lg$[email hidden]... > Hi Dave, > > Actually, I do have F1 2002 and thus the 3D setup benchmark. I bought the > game in anticipation of my new computer. Here are some scores -- > > 1024x768, 16 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 45.2 M/tri, Full, Full > > Turning on 2x or 4x AA does not affect the scores at 16 bit. > > 1024x768, 32 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 44.9 M/tri, Full, Full > > 2x AA = 39.3 M/tri > 4x AA = 34.1 M/tri > > 1280x1024, 16 bit, 75 Hz, No AA, 40.5 M/tri, Full, Full > > 32 bit = 39.3 M/tri > 32 bit, 2x AA = 33.0 M/tri > 32 bit, 4x AA = 28.2 M/tri -- High, Full > > 1600x1200, 16 bit, 60Hz, No AA, No VSync, 36.3 M/tri, Full, Full > > 32 bit = 34.9 M/tri > 32 bit, 2x AA = 28.5 M/tri, High, Full > 32 bit, 4x AA = 24.5 M/tri, High, Full > > Dave Ewing > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:r5vS9.467437$pN3.50787@sccrnsc03... > > Ok, for the EA F1 benchmark, you can download the demo of F1 2k2 or > > Nascar thunder. > > thanks.. > > dh > > > > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the following > > > specs -- > > > > > > > > > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > > > > > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > > > > > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > > > > > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > > > > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > > > > > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > > > > > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > > > > > Windows XP Home Edition > > >

Hi again Dave, Here's some more data for you, Dave. I got 3DMark 2001 SE. The score at the default settings -- 1024x768, 32 bits, No AA was 11,022. Dave "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XfOS9.476843$pN3.52201@sccrnsc03... > > "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:avg9a4$9lg$[email hidden]... > > Hi Dave, > > > > Actually, I do have F1 2002 and thus the 3D setup benchmark. I boughtthe

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> > game in anticipation of my new computer. Here are some scores -- > > > > 1024x768, 16 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 45.2 M/tri, Full, Full > > Great, thats near double my current numbers. The reason AA doesn't > effect the 16bit scores is that the new Radeons haven't had drivers that > work with 16bit FSAA. But somebody said that will be fixed soon. Great > info...thanks for the report. > dh.

Hi Joe, I'll do this test for you this weekend when I have a bit more time to play with it. I did run the 3DMark 2001 SE benchmark. See my post above. Dave Ewing "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Would you mind trying an in-game test? Pick a track and run at the backof > the pack at 1280x1024x32-bit with no FSAA, 2xFSAA, 4xFSAA and6xFSAA/8-anis > and note your fps (I usually get 20-30 start of race depending on thetrack > and then 40-60 while racing). This would be very helpful to someone likeme > who is considering a card mainly for FSAA and more consistent fps (I > anticipate the 9700 Pro will be the only meaningful upgrade for me basedon > your 3D config numbers).

Thanks Dave, I look forward to it. Much appreciated. -- Joe M. "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avivsm$leu$[email hidden]... > Hi Joe, > > I'll do this test for you this weekend when I have a bit more time to play > with it. I did run the 3DMark 2001 SE benchmark. See my post above. > > Dave Ewing >

Thanks David. Hopefully I'll be able to scam some poor credit card company into thinking I can repay my debts.. heheheh Oh btw...have you installed the 3.0 drivers?(whatever those ATI drivers are called?) dave henrie "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avivoi$486$[email hidden]... > Hi again Dave, > > Here's some more data for you, Dave. I got 3DMark 2001 SE. The score atthe > default settings -- 1024x768, 32 bits, No AA was 11,022. > > Dave

Joe at first guess, I don't think the 9500pro would be that much better than your present card. I do understand they have found a way to overclock them, but from your point of view, I would suggest either the 9700 or the 9700pro. The plain 9700 is quite a-bit cheaper and should be able to be pushed harder than the 9500 pro, espeicially at higher screen resolutions. dave henrie "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hmm, your scores just don't seem high enough. I was considering the 9500 > Pro (and an AMD 2100) as an upgrade after seeing the stellar FSAA > performance (considering the price) in anandtech's updated review with the > final retail board but now I'm not so sure. > > For comparison here's my rig: > > AMD 1600+/512MB Ram/GF4 Ti4400 (30.82 & DX9) > > My config score at 1280x1024x32-bit, 85Hz, No AA, No VSync is 37M/tri,

Full, > Full (compared to your 39M/tri). > > My score is far too close to your score considering you have asubstantially > faster cpu and a slightly faster video card (especially at higher resand/or > with FSAA/anis). > > Would you mind trying an in-game test? Pick a track and run at the backof > the pack at 1280x1024x32-bit with no FSAA, 2xFSAA, 4xFSAA and6xFSAA/8-anis > and note your fps (I usually get 20-30 start of race depending on thetrack > and then 40-60 while racing). This would be very helpful to someone likeme > who is considering a card mainly for FSAA and more consistent fps (I > anticipate the 9700 Pro will be the only meaningful upgrade for me basedon

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> your 3D config numbers). > > TIA. > > -- > Joe M. > > > "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:avg9a4$9lg$[email hidden]... > > Hi Dave, > > > > Actually, I do have F1 2002 and thus the 3D setup benchmark. I bought

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> > game in anticipation of my new computer. Here are some scores -- > > > > 1024x768, 16 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 45.2 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > Turning on 2x or 4x AA does not affect the scores at 16 bit. > > > > 1024x768, 32 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 44.9 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > 2x AA = 39.3 M/tri > > 4x AA = 34.1 M/tri > > > > 1280x1024, 16 bit, 75 Hz, No AA, 40.5 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > 32 bit = 39.3 M/tri > > 32 bit, 2x AA = 33.0 M/tri > > 32 bit, 4x AA = 28.2 M/tri -- High, Full > > > > 1600x1200, 16 bit, 60Hz, No AA, No VSync, 36.3 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > 32 bit = 34.9 M/tri > > 32 bit, 2x AA = 28.5 M/tri, High, Full > > 32 bit, 4x AA = 24.5 M/tri, High, Full > > > > Dave Ewing > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:r5vS9.467437$pN3.50787@sccrnsc03... > > > Ok, for the EA F1 benchmark, you can download the demo of F1 2k2 or > > > Nascar thunder. > > > thanks.. > > > dh > > > > > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the

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> > > > specs -- > > > > > > > > > > > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > > > > > > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > > > > > > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > > > > > > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > > > > > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > > > > > > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > > > > > > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > > > > > > Windows XP Home Edition > > > > > > > >

Thanks Dave. I was thinking the same thing myself, although wishfully thinking the 9500 Pro would fit the bill. I'm leaning towards the 9700 Pro just for the extra push but I'll have to wait until it hits $240's (not too long, probably a few weeks after Geforce FX). BTW, there was a post in the fight-sim group about the NON-ATI 9500 (non-Pro) that performed at 9700 PRO levels with a small soldering modification (and nothing more). A Russian gaming site used a Sapphire 9500 and changed the solder points on the underside of the board (a capacitor was moved I believe). It only works on the non-Pro and non-ATI because those are the only 9500's that used the same PCB as the 9700 Pro. Not a bid trick for only $150 US and a soldering iron. -- Joe M. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CX7T9.293294$qF3.30669@sccrnsc04... > Joe at first guess, I don't think the 9500pro would be that much better > than your present card. I do understand they have found a way to overclock > them, but from your point of view, I would suggest either the 9700 or the > 9700pro. > The plain 9700 is quite a-bit cheaper and should be able to be pushed > harder than the 9500 pro, espeicially at higher screen resolutions. > dave henrie > > "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hmm, your scores just don't seem high enough. I was considering the 9500 > > Pro (and an AMD 2100) as an upgrade after seeing the stellar FSAA > > performance (considering the price) in anandtech's updated review with the > > final retail board but now I'm not so sure. > > > > For comparison here's my rig: > > > > AMD 1600+/512MB Ram/GF4 Ti4400 (30.82 & DX9) > > > > My config score at 1280x1024x32-bit, 85Hz, No AA, No VSync is 37M/tri, > Full, > > Full (compared to your 39M/tri). > > > > My score is far too close to your score considering you have a > substantially > > faster cpu and a slightly faster video card (especially at higher res > and/or > > with FSAA/anis). > > > > Would you mind trying an in-game test? Pick a track and run at the back > of > > the pack at 1280x1024x32-bit with no FSAA, 2xFSAA, 4xFSAA and > 6xFSAA/8-anis > > and note your fps (I usually get 20-30 start of race depending on the > track > > and then 40-60 while racing). This would be very helpful to someone like > me > > who is considering a card mainly for FSAA and more consistent fps (I > > anticipate the 9700 Pro will be the only meaningful upgrade for me based > on > > your 3D config numbers). > > > > TIA. > > > > -- > > Joe M. > > > > > > "David A. Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:avg9a4$9lg$[email hidden]... > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > Actually, I do have F1 2002 and thus the 3D setup benchmark. I bought > the > > > game in anticipation of my new computer. Here are some scores -- > > > > > > 1024x768, 16 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 45.2 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > > > Turning on 2x or 4x AA does not affect the scores at 16 bit. > > > > > > 1024x768, 32 bit, 100Hz, No AA, No VSync, 44.9 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > > > 2x AA = 39.3 M/tri > > > 4x AA = 34.1 M/tri > > > > > > 1280x1024, 16 bit, 75 Hz, No AA, 40.5 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > > > 32 bit = 39.3 M/tri > > > 32 bit, 2x AA = 33.0 M/tri > > > 32 bit, 4x AA = 28.2 M/tri -- High, Full > > > > > > 1600x1200, 16 bit, 60Hz, No AA, No VSync, 36.3 M/tri, Full, Full > > > > > > 32 bit = 34.9 M/tri > > > 32 bit, 2x AA = 28.5 M/tri, High, Full > > > 32 bit, 4x AA = 24.5 M/tri, High, Full > > > > > > Dave Ewing > > > > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:r5vS9.467437$pN3.50787@sccrnsc03... > > > > Ok, for the EA F1 benchmark, you can download the demo of F1 2k2 or > > > > Nascar thunder. > > > > thanks.. > > > > dh > > > > > > > I just finished building my first computer. It has the > following > > > > > specs -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AMD Athlon XP 2100+ > > > > > > > Asus A7N8x motherboard (non-deluxe) > > > > > > > Two 256 Meg sticks of Corsair XPS PC2700 memory > > > > > > > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro > > > > > > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card > > > > > > > Western Digital 80 Gig Special Edition hard drive > > > > > > > Plextor PlexWriter 4/24/48 Atapi CD-RW > > > > > > > Windows XP Home Edition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >