Thurstmaster Ferrari F1 Wheel - Any good?

Hi everyone, I've seen this wheel at my local stores. It's not cheap, but it does look good, and reasonably made as well. What's the verdict on it? http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 Many thanks, James

No, no, please don't do that! I had it for maybe six weeks -> it's just bad for that money. Now i have the ne momo racing wheel, and this one is just amazing good and near half the price of the thrustmaster. Dinou "James Pickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:av357g$cm6$[email hidden]...

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> Hi everyone, > > I've seen this wheel at my local stores. It's not cheap, but it does look > good, and reasonably made as well. What's the verdict on it? > > http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > Many thanks, > > James > >

"James Pickard" wrote... > Hi everyone, > > I've seen this wheel at my local stores. It's not > cheap, but it does look good, and reasonably made > as well. What's the verdict on it? It's a reasonably good Force Feedback wheel, but the apparent build-quality is deceiving. A lot of reliability issues have been reported with it. If purchasing either a MSFF, a Logitech MOMO or a MOMO Racing wheel is an option, I'm more confident recommending those. Jan. =---

"Curdin" <[email hidden]> writes: > No, no, please don't do that! > > I had it for maybe six weeks -> it's just bad for that money. Now i have the > ne momo racing wheel, and this one is just amazing good and near half the > price of the thrustmaster. I have both. the Momo's been sitting in the closet since I got the F1. -- Gunnar Cougar#02748 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 myk, trygg og god.

> What's the verdict on it? > I got 1 three years ago, after 11.5 months it started to fail after 30 minutes use Guilmott(sp?) replaced it under warrentee no questions asked and the replacement has been working just fine ever since (the shift paddles no longer "click" when used but still work). It's predicessor was a TM T2 and that's still being used by a buddy after probably 5 years so that says something about how they used to make them anyway. Like all wheel/pedals the pedals are too small/light for adult feet.. My only complaints, their driver code sucks (takes the axis split controls away from the control panel and crashes some games if running) and the wheel clamp is incompatible with a keyboard tray. I like it better then my other buddies Logitech (non-Momo).

"Jan Verschueren" > If purchasing either a MSFF, a Logitech MOMO or a MOMO Racing wheel is an > option, I'm more confident recommending those. > > Jan. > =--- I chip in almost everywhere and dump my opinion even if it wasn't asked for. But very rarely do I get into wheel/pedal discussions. why? Cuz it seems that EVERYONE has a different expectation of what the wheel should be. Some think the cheapest crapiest plastic thingy is just wonderful. Others complain cuz their $1000 wheel feels cheap. I could weigh in about problems most wheels have, but when it comes down to how a wheel feels, one guy's dream is another guy's nightmare. dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

My biggest complaint about TM/Guillemot wheels is the drivers. As the guy below says, regular crashes are a feature. Switching split axes or ff off solves the problem, but I'm about to dump mine because of this. Iain "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > What's the verdict on it? > > > I got 1 three years ago, after 11.5 months it started to fail after 30 > minutes use Guilmott(sp?) replaced it under warrentee no questions > asked and the replacement has been working just fine ever since (the > shift paddles no longer "click" when used but still work). It's > predicessor was a TM T2 and that's still being used by a buddy after > probably 5 years so that says something about how they used to make > them anyway. > > Like all wheel/pedals the pedals are too small/light for adult feet.. > > My only complaints, their driver code sucks (takes the axis split > controls away from the control panel and crashes some games if > running) and the wheel clamp is incompatible with a keyboard tray. > > I like it better then my other buddies Logitech (non-Momo).

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"mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > What's the verdict on it? > > > I got 1 three years ago, I thought it was just released? You sure its this one : - http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

You're right, it looks more like this one: http://www.thrustmaster.co.uk/products/d_prd.php?p=T66&fam=4 As for the crappy drivers, I just don't run thier "thrustmapper" utility during game play. Run it once to remap axis and that's all (there are newer versions on their site now but I haven't bothered). Oh yeah, one more thing, I have to recalibrate the wheel within GPL with every fresh boot (takes 2 seconds), I don't know if it's a wheel thing or a GPL thing as I don't have to do anything similar in Rally Trophy, F1 2k2, Nascar3 or LFS. Like DH says, it's all a matter of what you've used. So far TM's products are still good enough for me to not warrent switching and I appreciate decent customer service these days.

"mcewena" > > Oh yeah, one more thing, I have to recalibrate the wheel within GPL > with every fresh boot (takes 2 seconds), I don't know if it's a wheel > thing or a GPL thing as I don't have to do anything similar in Rally > Trophy, F1 2k2, Nascar3 or LFS. Somebody, NOT ME, found out that if you input anything during the booting of GPL and, I think, N4/n2k2, you loose the lock on the calibration. So try to just get the sim starting to load and then don't move or click your mouse or keyboard til it's through loading. dh > > Like DH says, it's all a matter of what you've used. So far TM's > products are still good enough for me to not warrent switching and I > appreciate decent customer service these days. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

It has only just been released, but there are two wheels being discussed here, this one (the Ferrari replica) which the originator was asking about and the old GT wheel. The replica is a far superior piece of kit. The 'thrustmapper' seems to be a bit problematic for some people, but as one guy said, use it once to set up split pedals etc and forget it. Andi. "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:av4bi2$hgs$[email hidden]...

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> > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > What's the verdict on it? > > > > > I got 1 three years ago, > > I thought it was just released? > > You sure its this one : - > http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > All the best, > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > >

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> <snip> > I chip in almost everywhere and dump my opinion even if > it wasn't asked for. But very rarely do I get into > wheel/pedal discussions. why? Cuz it seems that > EVERYONE has a different expectation of what the wheel > should be. > Some think the cheapest crapiest plastic thingy is just > wonderful. Others complain cuz their $1000 wheel feels > cheap. > I could weigh in about problems most wheels have, but > when it comes down to how a wheel feels, one guy's dream > is another guy's nightmare.

Sure Dave, but James asked for opinions and I supplied him with mine, which is that in my own experience (and that of simracers I know personally) Thrustmaster / Guillemot wheels look more solid than they really are. I.e. that they're a bit brittle when used by aldults in "proper" sims. ;-) I really am more confortable recommending the wheels I mentioned as I know they'll stand up to a fair amount of punishment. I now leave James to make up his own mind. Jan. =---

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> "Dave Henrie" wrote... > > <snip> > > I chip in almost everywhere and dump my opinion even if > > it wasn't asked for. But very rarely do I get into > > wheel/pedal discussions. why? Cuz it seems that > > EVERYONE has a different expectation of what the wheel > > should be. > > Some think the cheapest crapiest plastic thingy is just > > wonderful. Others complain cuz their $1000 wheel feels > > cheap. > > I could weigh in about problems most wheels have, but > > when it comes down to how a wheel feels, one guy's dream > > is another guy's nightmare. > > Sure Dave, but James asked for opinions and I supplied him with mine,

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> is that in my own experience (and that of simracers I know personally) > Thrustmaster / Guillemot wheels look more solid than they really are. I.e. > that they're a bit brittle when used by aldults in "proper" sims. ;-) > > I really am more confortable recommending the wheels I mentioned as I know > they'll stand up to a fair amount of punishment. > > I now leave James to make up his own mind. > > Jan.

My old T2 was bulletproof. My latest Ferrari FF wheel has been solid as a rock as for over a year now. David G Fisher

"David G Fisher" wrote... > <snip> > My old T2 was bulletproof. My latest Ferrari FF wheel > has been solid as a rock as for over a year now. I spent more time fixing my T2 than driving it, almost. My buddy Tony went through 3 Ferrari FF's under warranty before he moved back to Australia. Greg's Guillemot Ferrari was held together with duct tape (he taught me the bungee pedal return mod, which relieved most of my TM pedal woes). Meanwhile, my original Logitech (threw a cup&pad switch after about 18 months hard use) and Logitech MOMO are still going strong, so are those owned by fellow simmers. MSFF's get an equally "unbreakable" rating among those I race with. I'm glad yours lasted as they did, but I don't trust 'm as much as the ones I mentioned, sorry. Jan. =---

i've had mine for 2 years and like it so much i bought a 2nd to keep as a spare... just in case. i think alot has to do with the users SIZE and the users USE. and when you race the users STYLE. are you 15 and small built? gentle? are you 6'4 and weigh 215 and manhandle everything as if you were a lumberjack? not only as Dave H says alot of it is opinions, but how it feels to YOU. i am totally satisfied with mine~ Bo Bruce

Andi I'm interested in this subject. Why do you use Thrustmapper to set up split axes when it can be done in Windows Control Panel? I've never used Thrustmapper because I couldn't see the point. Iain "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CakR9.1959$xE1.303618@stones... > It has only just been released, but there are two wheels being discussed > here, this one (the Ferrari replica) which the originator was asking about > and the old GT wheel. The replica is a far superior piece of kit. > > The 'thrustmapper' seems to be a bit problematic for some people, but asone

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> guy said, use it once to set up split pedals etc and forget it. > > Andi. > > > "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:av4bi2$hgs$[email hidden]... > > > > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > What's the verdict on it? > > > > > > > I got 1 three years ago, > > > > I thought it was just released? > > > > You sure its this one : - > > http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > All the best, > > Ash > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > > > > >

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As I said in another post, I have had real problems with the TM drivers and I don't use the Thrustmapper utility. I get regular blue screens and freezing in ALL racing sims with the TM/Guillemot wheel. If I turn FF or split axes off the problem doesn't happen. No instability with any other type of game or app. Definitely down to the wheel's drivers. Iain > As for the crappy drivers, I just don't run thier "thrustmapper" > utility during game play. Run it once to remap axis and that's all > (there are newer versions on their site now but I haven't bothered). > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Ian, I can't select split pedals in the Control panel for this wheel. Andi. Are we all getting confused as to which wheel we're talking about here. We are not talking of the original Guillemot Ferrari wheel that has been out a while. we rae talking about the newly released F1 Force Feedback Wheel with teh replica Ferrari wheel. See - http://www.thrustmaster.co.uk/products/dsp_fam.php?fam=4 "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e1698a8$[email hidden]... > Andi > I'm interested in this subject. Why do you use Thrustmapper to set upsplit

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> axes when it can be done in Windows Control Panel? I've never used > Thrustmapper because I couldn't see the point. > Iain > > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CakR9.1959$xE1.303618@stones... > > It has only just been released, but there are two wheels being discussed > > here, this one (the Ferrari replica) which the originator was asking

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> > and the old GT wheel. The replica is a far superior piece of kit. > > > > The 'thrustmapper' seems to be a bit problematic for some people, but as > one > > guy said, use it once to set up split pedals etc and forget it. > > > > Andi. > > > > > > "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:av4bi2$hgs$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > What's the verdict on it? > > > > > > > > > I got 1 three years ago, > > > > > > I thought it was just released? > > > > > > You sure its this one : - > > > http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > > > All the best, > > > Ash > > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

You didn't have this wheel two years ago it has only been out a few months see - http://www.thrustmaster.co.uk/products/dsp_fam.php?fam=4 Andi. "bb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> i've had mine for 2 years and like it so much i bought a 2nd to keep > as a spare... just in case. > > i think alot has to do with the users SIZE and the users USE. and when > you race the users STYLE. > are you 15 and small built? gentle? are you 6'4 and weigh 215 and > manhandle everything as if you were a lumberjack? > > not only as Dave H says alot of it is opinions, but how it feels to > YOU. i am totally satisfied with mine~ > > Bo Bruce

Sorry Andi. If you are talking about the new F1 wheel, then forget my question! It's the older one I have. Iain "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%IER9.8637$4k6.831112@wards...

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> Ian, > > I can't select split pedals in the Control panel for this wheel. > > Andi. > > Are we all getting confused as to which wheel we're talking about here. We > are not talking of the original Guillemot Ferrari wheel that has been out

a > while. we rae talking about the newly released F1 Force Feedback Wheelwith > teh replica Ferrari wheel. > > See - http://www.thrustmaster.co.uk/products/dsp_fam.php?fam=4 > > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote inmessage

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> news:3e1698a8$[email hidden]... > > Andi > > I'm interested in this subject. Why do you use Thrustmapper to set up > split > > axes when it can be done in Windows Control Panel? I've never used > > Thrustmapper because I couldn't see the point. > > Iain > > > > > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:CakR9.1959$xE1.303618@stones... > > > It has only just been released, but there are two wheels being

discussed > > > here, this one (the Ferrari replica) which the originator was asking > about > > > and the old GT wheel. The replica is a far superior piece of kit. > > > > > > The 'thrustmapper' seems to be a bit problematic for some people, butas

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> > one > > > guy said, use it once to set up split pedals etc and forget it. > > > > > > Andi. > > > > > > > > > "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:av4bi2$hgs$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > What's the verdict on it? > > > > > > > > > > > I got 1 three years ago, > > > > > > > > I thought it was just released? > > > > > > > > You sure its this one : - > > > > http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > Ash > > > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- > >

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I thought there was some confusion here! I think several people are looking at the wrong kit with Thrustmaster/Guillemot using similr names for two products. Cheers. Andi. "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Sorry Andi. If you are talking about the new F1 wheel, then forget my > question! It's the older one I have. > Iain > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%IER9.8637$4k6.831112@wards... > > Ian, > > > > I can't select split pedals in the Control panel for this wheel. > > > > Andi. > > > > Are we all getting confused as to which wheel we're talking about here.

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> a > > while. we rae talking about the newly released F1 Force Feedback Wheel > with > > teh replica Ferrari wheel. > > > > See - http://www.thrustmaster.co.uk/products/dsp_fam.php?fam=4 > > > > > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in > message > > news:3e1698a8$[email hidden]... > > > Andi > > > I'm interested in this subject. Why do you use Thrustmapper to set up > > split > > > axes when it can be done in Windows Control Panel? I've never used > > > Thrustmapper because I couldn't see the point. > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:CakR9.1959$xE1.303618@stones... > > > > It has only just been released, but there are two wheels being > discussed > > > > here, this one (the Ferrari replica) which the originator was asking > > about > > > > and the old GT wheel. The replica is a far superior piece of kit. > > > > > > > > The 'thrustmapper' seems to be a bit problematic for some people,

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> as > > > one > > > > guy said, use it once to set up split pedals etc and forget it. > > > > > > > > Andi. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:av4bi2$hgs$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > What's the verdict on it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got 1 three years ago, > > > > > > > > > > I thought it was just released? > > > > > > > > > > You sure its this one : - > > > > > http://au.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > Ash > > > > > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----