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25 posts by 11 people · 23 Dec 2002 23:18 UTC - 29 Dec 2002 10:53 UTC

Can Windows XP on NTFS read an old FAT32 drive?

Haqsau asked whether XP installed on an NTFS drive could still use his FAT32 data drive. Despite one incorrect reply, others confirmed it works fine. The thread moved on to swap file placement and drive imaging with Ghost and Drive Image.

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Haqsau 23 Dec 2002 23:18 UTC#84969
I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? Can XP recognize both? TIA
no, you will not be able to see both drives from within XP with NTFS. If you wish to see both, you must install XP on that second drive with the Fat32 file system. If you just add the XP drive as your second or slave drive, it will automatically create the dual boot option for you ... "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:au85j0$5bgaa$[email hidden]... > I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for > months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it > on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 > partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? > Can XP recognize both? TIA >
"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > no, you will not be able to see both drives from within XP with NTFS. Ifyou > wish to see both, you must install XP on that second drive with the Fat32 > file system. If you just add the XP drive as your second or slave drive,it > will automatically create the dual boot option for you ... > Phil, he said he just wanted to use the 2nd drive for data / programs (i.e. not dual boot) XP will read both NTFS and FAT32 - I am doing it right now. All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com
"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > no, you will not be able to see both drives from within XP with NTFS. Ifyou > wish to see both, you must install XP on that second drive with the Fat32 > file system. If you just add the XP drive as your second or slave drive,it > will automatically create the dual boot option for you ... Wait a minute. I think what he is asking is if he has NTFS XP on drive C, can it read files from his old HD. If this is the question, the answer is yes, no problem. -Tony-
Haqsau wrote: > > I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for > months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it > on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 > partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? > Can XP recognize both? TIA Yes and yes Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
> I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for > months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it > on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 > partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? > Can XP recognize both? TIA Yes. I've got my hard drive partitioned into 2 parts - C Drive is NTFS ans D Drive is FAT32. All of my games are installed on the FAT32 partition and I can play them in WinXP wihtout problems.
FYI - I haven't run into any game that didn't run on NTFS. YMMV. I tried this trick out yesterday. If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your system and put your XP swap file on it. It speed things up nicely on my system. "Andrew Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:au89n2$54242$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for > > months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it > > on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 > > partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? > > Can XP recognize both? TIA > > Yes. I've got my hard drive partitioned into 2 parts - C Drive is NTFS
ans > D Drive is FAT32. All of my games are installed on the FAT32 partitionand > I can play them in WinXP wihtout problems. > >
Obake 24 Dec 2002 03:00 UTC↳ reply to PositiveG#84854
In article <BsPN9.230356$[email hidden]>, "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I tried this trick out yesterday. >If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your system and >put your XP swap file on it. >It speed things up nicely on my system. an OLD 2gb would be slow, and a little small. but you're half right. the swap file should have its own hdd seperate from the system drive. the faster the better, and the larger the better. and another tip, don't set the swap file to auto-resize. make it 2.5x the physical memory/ram. thats why i think 2gb is a little small. most people have a lot of ram these days.
PositiveG 24 Dec 2002 03:22 UTC↳ reply to Obake#84855
This setup works great for me! It's an ATA33 2Gig Quatum HD, set for a 1024MB "static" swap file. I have only have 512MB RAM. It's 333Mhz DDR, so I can't afford more just yet. At least this HD's out of the junk box, and doing something productive. ;-) "Obake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e07cdc0$0$30588$[email hidden]... > In article <BsPN9.230356$[email hidden]>, "PositiveG"<[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I tried this trick out yesterday. > >If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your systemand > >put your XP swap file on it. > >It speed things up nicely on my system. > > an OLD 2gb would be slow, and a little small. > > but you're half right. the swap file should have its own hdd seperatefrom > the system drive. the faster the better, and the larger the better. and > another tip, don't set the swap file to auto-resize. make it 2.5x the > physical memory/ram. thats why i think 2gb is a little small. mostpeople > have a lot of ram these days.
> FYI - I haven't run into any game that didn't run on NTFS. YMMV. > > I tried this trick out yesterday. > If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your system and > put your XP swap file on it. > It speed things up nicely on my system. The only reason my D drive is FAT 32 is so I can store a Ghost image of C drive on there and restore it from DOS using a DOS boot disk.
Cool. I thought Ghost read NTFS drives just fine though??? Whatever works for you though. Its a great product, saves a lot of time when upgrading HDs (just did a 30Gig to 60Gig upgrade). "Andrew Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:au8jul$5ba16$[email hidden]... > > FYI - I haven't run into any game that didn't run on NTFS. YMMV. > > > > I tried this trick out yesterday. > > If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your systemand
Quoted text (7 lines)> > put your XP swap file on it. > > It speed things up nicely on my system. > > The only reason my D drive is FAT 32 is so I can store a Ghost image of C > drive on there and restore it from DOS using a DOS boot disk. > >
PositiveG 24 Dec 2002 03:30 UTC↳ reply to Obake#84858
This setup works great for me! It's an ATA33 2Gig Quatum HD, set for a 1024MB "static" swap file. I only have 512MB RAM. It's 333Mhz DDR, so I can't afford more just yet. At least this HD's out of the junk box, and doing something productive. ;-) "Obake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e07cdc0$0$30588$[email hidden]... > In article <BsPN9.230356$[email hidden]>, "PositiveG"<[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I tried this trick out yesterday. > >If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your systemand > >put your XP swap file on it. > >It speed things up nicely on my system. > > an OLD 2gb would be slow, and a little small. > > but you're half right. the swap file should have its own hdd seperatefrom > the system drive. the faster the better, and the larger the better. and > another tip, don't set the swap file to auto-resize. make it 2.5x the > physical memory/ram. thats why i think 2gb is a little small. mostpeople > have a lot of ram these days.
> Cool. I thought Ghost read NTFS drives just fine though??? > Whatever works for you though. It does...It just can't read the image file from a NTFS partition from DOS when restoring. Supposedly Ghost can write to CDs in DOS too but doesn't seem to support my burner.
I haven't tried reading an NTFS image file. However, my version will write to CD's fine from the DOS boot disk! Haven't tried the network image thing yet. Drive to Drive image copies are a snap, once I learned the trick. You need to delete all partitions on destination drive. Since my destination was new, this wasn't an issue. "Andrew Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:au8l5n$56o9n$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > Cool. I thought Ghost read NTFS drives just fine though??? > > Whatever works for you though. > > It does...It just can't read the image file from a NTFS partition from DOS > when restoring. Supposedly Ghost can write to CDs in DOS too but doesn't > seem to support my burner. > >
Quoted text (8 lines)> I haven't tried reading an NTFS image file. > However, my version will write to CD's fine from the DOS boot disk! > > Haven't tried the network image thing yet. > > Drive to Drive image copies are a snap, once I learned the trick. > You need to delete all partitions on destination drive. > Since my destination was new, this wasn't an issue.
Yeah, Ghost is a real godsend when upgrading hard disks.
Yes, that's what I was asking. I would think it would, but after all this is Microsoft we are talking about here... "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GANN9.781$[email hidden]... > > Wait a minute. I think what he is asking is if he has NTFS XP ondrive C, > can it read files from his old HD. If this is the question, theanswer is > yes, no problem. > > -Tony- > > >
Obake wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> In article <BsPN9.230356$[email hidden]>, "PositiveG" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> I tried this trick out yesterday. >> If you have an old 2Gig drive laying around, install it in your system >> and put your XP swap file on it. >> It speed things up nicely on my system. > > an OLD 2gb would be slow, and a little small. > > but you're half right. the swap file should have its own hdd seperate > from the system drive. the faster the better, and the larger the better. > and another tip, don't set the swap file to auto-resize. make it 2.5x the > physical memory/ram. thats why i think 2gb is a little small. most > people have a lot of ram these days.
I have XP Pro with a gig of pc2700 ddr ram. I have a 50 mb swap file on my C drive for memory dumps, and then on my G drive ( seperate physical) I have a swap file set with a min of 150 mb and a maximum of 1.5 gb. So far, it has not needed to grow beyone the 150 mb. -- Don Burnette
Damien Smith wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>> I haven't tried reading an NTFS image file. >> However, my version will write to CD's fine from the DOS boot disk! >> >> Haven't tried the network image thing yet. >> >> Drive to Drive image copies are a snap, once I learned the trick. >> You need to delete all partitions on destination drive. >> Since my destination was new, this wasn't an issue. > > Yeah, Ghost is a real godsend when upgrading hard disks.
I use Drive Image, and it works very well also with NTFS. -- Don Burnette
PositiveG 24 Dec 2002 14:02 UTC#530352
AUTOEXEC.BAT MOUSE.COM CD GHOST echo Loading.. GHOSTPE.EXE
Larry 24 Dec 2002 15:49 UTC↳ reply to Haqsau#84806
Sure. No problem. -Larry "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:au85j0$5bgaa$[email hidden]... > I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for > months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it > on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 > partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? > Can XP recognize both? TIA >
Either his question is more complex than I understand, or something is wrong here. Windows XP is fully capable of reading and writing to standard FAT32 volumes. You can even install XP on a FAT32 volume if you choose to do so. Only NT4 is incapable of reading FAT32. -Larry "Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > no, you will not be able to see both drives from within XP with NTFS. Ifyou > wish to see both, you must install XP on that second drive with the Fat32 > file system. If you just add the XP drive as your second or slave drive,it
Quoted text (12 lines)> will automatically create the dual boot option for you ... > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:au85j0$5bgaa$[email hidden]... > > I will probably be getting XP Pro soon (I have been saying that for > > months, but this time I mean it!) and what I would like to do is put it > > on a new hard drive on an NTFS partition and still use the FAT32 > > partition on my old drive for data and some programs. Is this possible? > > Can XP recognize both? TIA > > > >
In article <au8l5n$56o9n$[email hidden]>, Andrew Williams <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (8 lines)>> Cool. I thought Ghost read NTFS drives just fine though??? >> Whatever works for you though. > >It does...It just can't read the image file from a NTFS partition from DOS >when restoring. Supposedly Ghost can write to CDs in DOS too but doesn't >seem to support my burner. > >
Have you not tried Automated System Recovery in XP itself? With that you can backup all files from c to d, creating a recovery floppy in the process, and then use the original XP cd to boot from and use ASR to restore all files from d back to c again. No need for any additional software. -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email
In article <[email hidden]>, The Real Thing <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (13 lines)>On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:05:40 +0000, Peter Ives ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>Have you not tried Automated System Recovery in XP itself? With that >>you can backup all files from c to d, creating a recovery floppy in the >>process, and then use the original XP cd to boot from and use ASR to >>restore all files from d back to c again. No need for any additional >>software. > >I've never seen this option in XP. Maybe it is only in the Pro version >and not the home version? I just searched for "Automated System >Recovery" in Help and Support and came up blank.
Aah, you could be right. I think I've read that ASR is not an automatic feature with XP Home. After scanning Google groups I see that it doesn't, but it is possible to include this feature, though not without a bit of effort, it seems. -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email
I use DriveImage as well. If nothing else, it has a far better user interface :) Larry "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> Damien Smith wrote: > >> I haven't tried reading an NTFS image file. > >> However, my version will write to CD's fine from the DOS boot disk! > >> > >> Haven't tried the network image thing yet. > >> > >> Drive to Drive image copies are a snap, once I learned the trick. > >> You need to delete all partitions on destination drive. > >> Since my destination was new, this wasn't an issue. > > > > Yeah, Ghost is a real godsend when upgrading hard disks. > > I use Drive Image, and it works very well also with NTFS. > > > -- > Don Burnette > >

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