DX9 out !!!

http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 Dunno if it will help but.... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY

New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall this thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. -Larry "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]...

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> http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > -- > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -

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> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > >

well, you're supposed to be able to "tweak" your steering wheel with MUCH more "power" and therefore improve the SHITTY controller issues in F12001 and the LESS SHITTY in F12002.... But I didn't try it yet because I am finishing a DL before rebooting the machine.... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Larry" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall this > thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > -Larry > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >

"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > Dunno if it will help but.... One guy from the DX team @ M'soft has said that you'd be mad to install this on anything other than a spare machine Doug

Which version would you rather go back to? "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstallthis

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> thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > -Larry > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >

Runs fine here with latest ATI Catalysts 3.0 drivers. "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3RKM9.3063$4k6.349168@wards...

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> > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > One guy from the DX team @ M'soft has said that you'd be mad to install

this > on anything other than a spare machine > > Doug > >

Runs fine here with latest ATI Catalysts 3.0 drivers. > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > Dunno if it will help but.... this > on anything other than a spare machine > Doug

Works fine here, not a must have, but no probs either. Achim "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3RKM9.3063$4k6.349168@wards... ... > One guy from the DX team @ M'soft has said that you'd > be mad to install this on anything other than a spare machine

How many people have 'spare' machines..? AD

I'll let the others try it first <evil laugh>. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And unless there's a real benefit/improvement over the previous version, it'll stay the way it is on my machine. -- Philippe "Philster" Sergerie "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > -- > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > >

In article <3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]>, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> writes: >http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > >Dunno if it will help but. So? :-) I'm just leery about loading MORE new shit on a machine that's working fine NOW... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett (check out my e-bay auctions) GPLRank:-0.098 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

unless you have an ati 9xxx or a gh4 is there any reason to install dx9? dave henrie . --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

I would assume you don't need it until you have both a DX9 card and a DX9 game. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:y3QM9.48915$qF3.3242@sccrnsc04... > unless you have an ati 9xxx or a gh4 is there any reason to installdx9?

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"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote... > I would assume you don't need it until you have both a DX9 card and a DX9game.< Probably true, but being the danger-seeker that I am, I installed it anyway. ;-) FWIW, it works fine here on 98SE with a Ti4400 and LWF wheel in GPL, NR2002, F1-2002 (& assorted mods), and Rally Trophy. Testing actually gave rise to my first GPL race in many, many moons, so it WAS worth the effort. Got my arse kicked on VROC, but it was fun chasing around the 'Ring again. Still can't drive those bloody 60/60 setups in the Lotus though... SB

> Runs fine here with latest ATI Catalysts 3.0 drivers. Same here (Radeon 9700). Some people are reporting problems with OpenGL games tho with the 3.0 drivers. rms [email hidden]

Likewise, I'd avoid DX 8.2 as well (it comes--unbidden--with some games like MS's CFS3). Compatability issues. "Philster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e8NM9.19720$[email hidden]... > I'll let the others try it first <evil laugh>. If it ain't broke, don'tfix > it. And unless there's a real benefit/improvement over the previousversion,

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> it'll stay the way it is on my machine. > > -- > Philippe "Philster" Sergerie > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >

The thing is, if it comes with a game, the game probably requires it for some new feature that it is using, so you may not have a choice. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SwZM9.104432$[email hidden]... > Likewise, I'd avoid DX 8.2 as well (it comes--unbidden--with somegames like > MS's CFS3). Compatability issues. >

Yeah, 8.2 came with CFS3, but after I installed it, several other games *stopped* working. If I had known how bad CFS3 was/is, I never would have bothered. I guess what pisses me off the most is that CFS installed it w/o even telling the FDU (that's me) that it was installing 8.2, not 8.1a or b...not that I knew to avoid 8.2 then (I only found out what a loser it is afterwards, reading the newsgroups...which--I know, I know--I shoulda done *beforehand*!). OTOH, DX9 is going to be a must-have for almost any game released from now on. I already have a voluminous collection of 9-only demos. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:au2726$3p4vk$[email hidden]...

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> The thing is, if it comes with a game, the game probably requires it for > some new feature that it is using, so you may not have a choice. > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SwZM9.104432$[email hidden]... > > Likewise, I'd avoid DX 8.2 as well (it comes--unbidden--with some > games like > > MS's CFS3). Compatability issues. > > >

I gave it a go on Win2k, with a Gf4 4200 (128Mb), SB live 5.1 & VIA 686B chipset mobo. Gpl works just fine (OpenGL), no the sound issue is not fixed, I tried putting the acceleration up to full, then normal, neither worked properly, so it's back on low again same as before. I never had any noticeable crackling, so I can't really say whether that's improved or not. Viper Racing (D3D) works just as well as it did before too. No install problems, no incompatible drivers, although it shows my nVidia 41.09 drivers as not certified. I thought they were but so what at the end of the day. It's fine, but I can't find any significant changes except for the little midi tune dxdiag plays ;-) I wasn't really expecting any though, but at least it works! Malc.

Malc, I hope & trust yer referring ("it") to DX9 not the heinous DX8.2, rite? --Steve "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%H8N9.5127$4k6.396397@wards...

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> I gave it a go on Win2k, with a Gf4 4200 (128Mb), SB live 5.1 & VIA 686B > chipset mobo. > > Gpl works just fine (OpenGL), no the sound issue is not fixed, I tried > putting the acceleration up to full, then normal, neither worked properly, > so it's back on low again same as before. I never had any noticeable > crackling, so I can't really say whether that's improved or not. > > Viper Racing (D3D) works just as well as it did before too. > > No install problems, no incompatible drivers, although it shows my nVidia > 41.09 drivers as not certified. I thought they were but so what at the end > of the day. > > It's fine, but I can't find any significant changes except for the little > midi tune dxdiag plays ;-) > > I wasn't really expecting any though, but at least it works! > > Malc. > > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OQhN9.113844$[email hidden]... > Malc, > > I hope & trust yer referring ("it") to DX9 not the heinous DX8.2, rite? Yes. The Subject says it all, really ;-) Malc.

No problem with uninstalling if you create a restore point in XP first. I have been using the betas from ATI for several weeks and no trouble "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstallthis

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> thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > -Larry > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:10:18 GMT, Steve Smith wrote:

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> Yeah, 8.2 came with CFS3, but after I installed it, several other games > *stopped* working. If I had known how bad CFS3 was/is, I never would have > bothered. I guess what pisses me off the most is that CFS installed it w/o > even telling the FDU (that's me) that it was installing 8.2, not 8.1a or > b...not that I knew to avoid 8.2 then (I only found out what a loser it is > afterwards, reading the newsgroups...which--I know, I know--I shoulda done > *beforehand*!).

Agreed, Steve. My son brought home MechWarrior 3 today which he picked up in the bargain bin, and it conviniently offered to install DX 6.0 as the installed version (8.1) wasnt new enough. How cool is that? ;-) Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if you use system restore. System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the first to require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh... -Larry "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lzoN9.64075$[email hidden]...

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> No problem with uninstalling if you create a restore point in XP first. I > have been using the betas from ATI for several weeks and no trouble > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall > this > > thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > > > -- > > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS

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It can be used to create a restore point easily before installing any new drivers/software. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vqLN9.47567$[email hidden]... > Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if you use > system restore. > > System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software > uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the firstto > require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh... > > -Larry

There is a DX9 uninstaller prog out there. Can't remember the url, but just type 'dx9 uninstall' into Google. It worked for me. Iain "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vqLN9.47567$[email hidden]... > Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if you use > system restore. > > System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software > uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the firstto

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> require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh... > > -Larry > > "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lzoN9.64075$[email hidden]... > > No problem with uninstalling if you create a restore point in XP first.

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> > have been using the betas from ATI for several weeks and no trouble > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > > > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > > > > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall > > this > > > thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > > > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS > DARE - > > > RYL > > > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES

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No shit. :) -Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:17MN9.230295$[email hidden]... > It can be used to create a restore point easily before installing any new > drivers/software. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vqLN9.47567$[email hidden]... > > Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if youuse

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> > system restore. > > > > System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software > > uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the first > to > > require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh... > > > > -Larry > >

The link for it is on www.hardocp.com -Larry "Iain Mackenzie" <none> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > There is a DX9 uninstaller prog out there. Can't remember the url, butjust

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> > > this > > > > thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > > > > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > > > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > > > > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > > > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > > > > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS > > DARE - > > > > RYL > > > > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO

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