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7 posts by 7 people · 03 Dec 2002 01:08 UTC - 03 Dec 2002 13:55 UTC

HoeHandle 03 Dec 2002 01:08 UTC#87373
I just upgraded to XP and finally got the steering wheel issues straightened out and now I have horrible frame rates 18-33 rps. P4 1.6 64meg intel video card and 768 megs of RAM it ran better under win98 with 256 megs of ram and same video card and P4. Any ideas??? Thanks
> I just upgraded to XP and finally got the steering wheel issuesstraightened > out and now I have horrible frame rates 18-33 rps. P4 1.6 64meg intel > video card and 768 megs of RAM it ran better under win98 with 256 megs of > ram and same video card and P4. Any ideas??? Thanks Have you installed the latest drivers for your Intel video card? (The ones supplied with XP are very slow)
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ash0ii$qqtig$[email hidden]... > > I just upgraded to XP and finally got the steering wheel issues > straightened > > out and now I have horrible frame rates 18-33 rps. P4 1.6 64meg intel > > video card and 768 megs of RAM it ran better under win98 with 256 megsof > > ram and same video card and P4. Any ideas??? Thanks > > Have you installed the latest drivers for your Intel video card? (Theones > supplied with XP are very slow) > do you have direct X 8.1? do you have vsync disabled? Have you turned off fsaa and anistropic filtering? Have you updated your video and sound drivers? AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade? It's a change it is different, but an upgrade? Certainly not enough in the framerate arena to be cost effective. Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP users Kite Drivers? :) dave henrie
AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade? It's a change > it is different, but an upgrade? Certainly not enough in the framerate > arena to be cost effective. Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP usersKite > Drivers? :) > dave henrieHey, I drive from inside, and yes, the fps took a hit with XP, but probably the biggest loss was those pretty blue screens that MS built into the 9x OS family......haven't seen one of those for ages now. Since many folks also use their rigs for stuff besides driving (gotta download stuff, right?) the stability of XP is a major plus, in my book. Even my wife and kids haven't been able to kill it, tho sadly, it's usually me that does that...... Ed
> AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade? XP is most definately an "upgrade" OS compared to the toy like Win9x operating systems. While Win95 was an excellent compromize given its requirements. Win98 should have moved in the direction of "NT" in internal structure, it did not, and WinMe should have never existed. XP and upgrade for NR2002. I do not consider operating systems upgrades for applications (which run on multiple platforms). Hardware and drivers are upgrades for game applications. Operating systems offer programming APIs, like OpenGL/DirectX, and stability. Programming APIs are common an virtually identical across all Windows platforms. Stability is something Win9x has none of. > Certainly not enough in the framerate > arena to be cost effective. People do more than play NR2002 with their computer is my bet and XP is hands down a better OS than Win9x. For me when I bought my Compaq machine it had Win9x and I tried NR on it before I swapped on Win9x and put Win2000 on. With Nvidia and OpenGL I lost no real frame rate to notice (no real way to predictably benchmark NR (exact repetition)). DirectX did lose frame rate. Historically many video and sound card vendors had crap "NT" drivers. This is because WinNT/Win2000 were not gaming machines. XP is changing that situation. ATI was a notable "NT" driver offender. NVidia was not. > Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP users Kite > Drivers? :) I use XP and I drive in the drivers seat where the steering wheel is. It seems obvious to me that you sit in front of the steering wheel to drive a car. :) Norman "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NOTG9.214624$1O2.13604@sccrnsc04... > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ash0ii$qqtig$[email hidden]... > > > I just upgraded to XP and finally got the steering wheel issues > > straightened > > > out and now I have horrible frame rates 18-33 rps. P4 1.6 64megintel > > > video card and 768 megs of RAM it ran better under win98 with 256megs > of > > > ram and same video card and P4. Any ideas??? Thanks > > > > Have you installed the latest drivers for your Intel video card?(The > ones > > supplied with XP are very slow) > > > do you have direct X 8.1? do you have vsync disabled? Have youturned > off fsaa and anistropic filtering? Have you updated your video andsound > drivers? AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade? It's achange > it is different, but an upgrade? Certainly not enough in theframerate > arena to be cost effective. Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP usersKite > Drivers? :) > dave henrie > >
Nick 03 Dec 2002 12:37 UTC↳ reply to HoeHandle#87418
NR2002? What's that again? Go race GTR2002, you know you want to.... PS/ Sorry Papyrus, you know I love ya.
As far as I remember, change to every new level of OS (DOS to 95 to 98 to XP) brought losing 10% of frame rate. It's normal. -- Mario "Norman Black" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ash4k7$d4e$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (35 lines)> > AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade? > > XP is most definately an "upgrade" OS compared to the toy like Win9x > operating systems. While Win95 was an excellent compromize given its > requirements. Win98 should have moved in the direction of "NT" in > internal structure, it did not, and WinMe should have never existed. > > XP and upgrade for NR2002. I do not consider operating systems upgrades > for applications (which run on multiple platforms). Hardware and drivers > are upgrades for game applications. Operating systems offer programming > APIs, like OpenGL/DirectX, and stability. Programming APIs are common an > virtually identical across all Windows platforms. Stability is something > Win9x has none of. > > > Certainly not enough in the framerate > > arena to be cost effective. > > People do more than play NR2002 with their computer is my bet and XP is > hands down a better OS than Win9x. For me when I bought my Compaq > machine it had Win9x and I tried NR on it before I swapped on Win9x and > put Win2000 on. With Nvidia and OpenGL I lost no real frame rate to > notice (no real way to predictably benchmark NR (exact repetition)). > DirectX did lose frame rate. Historically many video and sound card > vendors had crap "NT" drivers. This is because WinNT/Win2000 were not > gaming machines. XP is changing that situation. ATI was a notable "NT" > driver offender. NVidia was not. > > > Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP users Kite > > Drivers? :) > > I use XP and I drive in the drivers seat where the steering wheel is. It > seems obvious to me that you sit in front of the steering wheel to drive > a car. :) > > Norman

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